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Aggressive versatility for ice and rock.
- Aggressive axe for versatility on ice, mixed, or alpine climbs
- Sharp pick angle with long first tooth for secure hooking
- Interchangeable Ice blade switches out for Mix blade
- Dual-density handle with multiple grip options
- Cyclops eye accommodates carabiners
- Item #GRV001A
- Q & A
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I've climbed on these on the same Ouray trip as Geoff and thought they were a pretty nice tool. Since I've got a set of Nomics, they're not worth switching too (since they're so similar). But they're definitively worth looking at if you'd in need of a set of tools.
I've personally got a set of Nomics, X-Dreams and went out and got a set of the North Machines (but haven't climbed on those yet). I think the Carbon Tech Machines and the Petzl Nomics are very similar tools. The Nomics have pick weights that put more weight in the heads and the Carbon Tech Machines feel like the bulk of the weight is in the handle. The head and shaft on the Carbon Tech Machines feel lighter. For me this was a little tricky at first because the usual flick of the wrist I give the tool during each placement had to be adjusted when swinging these. It wasn't a bad thing, just something I needed to switch up in my mechanics.
The Nomics weigh in at 21.3oz/605grams per tool and the Carbon Tech Machines at 19.8oz/561grams per tool. If weight is all you care about then the Carbon Tech's are worth looking at.
My hands are a Hestra size 9, Men's M/L (mediums tend to be tight and larges tend to be too big) and I found these handles worked great with my hands.
In the end when looking at the full spectrum of tools, I'd still opt for my X-Dreams over all the rest. But that's what works well for me, and you might find that another tool works better for you.
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I spent a week climbing on the Carbon Tech Machines in Ouray recently. It took me a few runs to get used to these guys. They have a similar geometry to the Nomic and are in the same category of vertical ice tools to that and the X-Dream, but the weight distribution is a bit different and seems to be more in the handle than head. Initially, all my swings were a bit hard, causing the blade to go really deep every time. After I figured it out, I was able to be precise with very little effort. The long pick does indeed make for great hooking and the handle is very comfortable. The pick seems to be quite durable as well, holding up nicely over the week. I'm excited to keep using these and test them out in more variable terrain.
There are three versions of this tool:
- ice pick
- ice plus pick with hammer
- ice plus pick with adze
Since the picture on the web site is not even of this tool (the picture is of the aluminum Tech Machine), it is hard to know exactly which version of the Tech Machine Carbon is being sold. Could somebody please clarify?
The LivePerson reports that it is the first version of the tool (no hammer, no adze; just the ice pick).
isn't this the photo of the aluminum version and not the CF?