The Voile 3 Pin cable's lightweight, simple and bomb proof construction provides ideal control in the backcountry.
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Sick Tele Bindings
I think they're actually pretty good for resort skiing, if you're looking for a soft binding and are a lighter weight skier. I love them, but tele is all about preference so try a bunch of stuff and see what you enjoy.
Voilé 3 Pin Cable Telemark Binding
Old school, but still work just fine.
sure there are lots of high tech AT and telemark setups out there these days, but that doesn't take away from the functionality of an older design. These bindings are lightweight, simple, and dependable for use in the backcountry. I have also used them on groomers on lift accessible terrain. They work, but I would prefer something a little bit heavier duty. All in all, however, a good product. One beef I do have is with the climbing wires, which do not seem to interface perfectly with the heel pads. When I pop them up, the wires shear away bits of plastic from the edges of the pads. Aside from that, though, they work and are stable on the uphill.
All on the pins
These were my first set of tele bindings. I skiied on them with a set of leather boots. i am a bigger skier. It did not take me long to make the pin holes in my boots bigger with these bindings. If you are planning to do any amount of down hill i would recomend another binding. Once the holes on your boots get bigger. ( The cable pushes your boot against the three pins) You will find that you boot moves around a fair bit.
Superlight and fully capable w/ plastic boots
My regular set up is the Voile Switchback which I love. But I recently borrowed two setups with these three-pin bindings (without cables) to ski Jackson Hole and Teton Pass BC. First thought was oh no, I am not gonna be able to ski steep terrain in these. But I was totally wrong. Not only are they super light,but with a Garmont Synergy boot they perform flawless--even with fat skis. First I skied them mounted to a pair of $1200 carbon Goode skis, then I skied them mounted to a pair of Volkl with 105mm under foot. Both set ups were ultra light and I flew up the mountain. On the down in the fresh pow of Glory Bowl off Teton Pass, they allowed a natural and free flex of the boot and were super easy to get in and out--just snap and go. The only thing that they need is a free pivot design to make these even more desireable. I might do a total switch if that design came out....they were that good. If you want lightweight and are not planning on hucking your carcass off every cliff then I would seriously recommend trying these out...but maybe just get the cableless version.
They'll Do The Job
These aren't the cadillac of tele ski bindings but I learned on them many years ago and am still using them. They work great in the backcountry when you want to climb as well as tele but they aren't as beefy
as the other high tech bindings. I've used them with the old leather boots as well as the Scarpa boots and they served their purpose. I have used them both in the backcountry and at the resort areas with good results. No, they won't perform as well as the more expensive O2s, etc but if you want a less expensive and versatile binding when you're first learning to telemark or if you want a binding that will serve you well in the backcountry (they're much lighter than the other bindings), give these a try. They won't cost you an arm and a leg.
Good BC Bindings
I've been using these bindings paired with Alpina Lite Terrain skis in the Black Hills and they're working pretty slick so far. Without the cables I've got the freedom for a decent kick and glide on the level stuff and with the cables they're stiff enough to throw some good tele turns into a run. Only complaint is that the cable stretched a little when I hit a concealed brush pile hard and I had to adjust on one side to fit my boot again. My ski took worse damage with a good gouge. These bindings would most likely would suck for real tele applications (and as Angus said, they're kind of ghetto), but for backcountry they're kicking ass. As for the putting on climbing wires after they are mounted (as some reviewers have complained about), using your head and some creativity, as the knife on my Leatherman provided, you can pop the caps off of the screws on the heel piece and put them on. My skis don't like climbing much without skins, but that's the skis, not the bindings.
Light touring binding
I pair these with the Karhu 10th mt. and Alpina 2175 boot. Works well for exploring/touring and getting low to moderate angle turns in good snow conditions. I feel they get a little squirly in crud and variable snow, and steeper terrain - the springs just aren't stiff enough when downhill turns are your #1 goal.
Versatile, but not for resort skiing
The Voile 3-Pin Cable binding is not for resort skiing. Yes, you could use them at the resort, but the flex of them is very neutral, and do not offer an active enough flex to power through big turns.
These bindings are a good match for some older skis, or XC/Backcountry hybrid skis like the Karhu 10th Mtn, Fischer Outbound Crown, and other semi-shaped, light-weight, waxless (fish scales) crossover skis.
Meadow skipping, and Wisconsin roller hills are a good place for these bindings. Remove or attach the the heel assemblage depending on what you're using them for at the time.
Good product, just know what kind of skiing these are for before buying them. Hardwire bindings are more for resort and downhill oriented skiing. 3 Pin cables are more of a flat/rolling terrain touring binding.
Great bindings and quick tip
These are hands down great bindings. I just wanted to say to the guy who had trouble with the climbing wires that an easy way to get the plastic plugs out is to take a small drill bit and drill it ever so slightly into the plug---then pull it out. The plug will then have a hole in it, but it's not that big a deal. You shouldn't have to mar your heel pieces at all.
Plan in advance for wires
This is a great, old-school feeling binding. No nonsense, nothing to break or jam and can be used with the cable for trails and glades, or without for flat travel and gentle descents. But, if your going to buy these and want climbing wires BE WARNED. You must have the wires installed to the heel plate while it is being mounted. The heel plate's screws get capped with a totally unremovable plug and, as far as I can tell at this point, they are on there for good without doing some serious damage to the plate. Wires can't be installed after the heel plate is secured, and your basically screwed if you failed to plan appropriately (like me). I have managed to wrestle the wires on with a lot of frustration, but the heel plates are now all torn up and the wires don't sit quite perfectly in either the down position or up under my heel. SO, the lesson: purchase a pair of wires, (not included with the binding package and sold separately, I'm not sure why?) and install them to the heel plate while you mount the ski, then climb and carve to your heart's content!
reliable and versitile
I am a backcountry skier that skis mostly on the flat, but I have to cross steep ravines frequently. The cables make the ski tips very controllable when maneuvering through a pow-filled ravine, and I can stow the cables when I am on the flat. I also have 3-pin cables on my very skinny combi skis. I have them mounted on a 44mm ski with 12mm shims under them to prevent booting out and they skate well even without the cables. With the cables engaged it turns into an awesome skating binding. I have had NNN BC bindings, and they didn't last and gave me grief for the brief moment they were in useful service. The 75mm binding works well, has good durability, and no one builds them better than Voile.
Can this binding be installed on a ski that currently has a NNN BC binding? My concern is that the NNN BC holes might happen to be too close to where the 3-pin screws need to go.
What binding should I get? I'm mainly...
What binding should I get? I'm mainly skiing lifts and groomers, but I like to ski glades whenever I can. Should I get this binding? or maybe hardwire or HD mountaineer . I have the Garmont syner-g
If skiing at resorts, there's little point in going for a lighter binding such as this: a dedicated resort tele binding will give you more control and durability. I run HammerHeads, but it seems that's been replaced by the Vice (and Axl for backcountry yoyoing). I recall the Voile Hardwire also performed well for me (cheaper, but much less versatile), but I've only skied it once...
would these bindings fit a size 30 boot?
would these bindings fit a size 30 boot?
According to Voile these have adjustable expansion spring cables can be cut and sanded to fit any boot size.
Anyone ever modify these for say a Koflach...
Anyone ever modify these for say a Koflach mountaineering boot?
I really want a touring binding (not the AT Silvretta style) for extended backcountry trips that are not steep - so a 3-pin mounted on a metal edged fishscale touring ski.
I guess you could potentially modify the toe to accommodate your boots (maybe using a crampon toe bail), but more importantly, these bindings require boots that flex, which I'm assuming your mountaineering boots don't.
I am a beginner telemark/bc skier. I have...
I am a beginner telemark/bc skier. I have these binding mounted on 10th Mountain and I have a pair of Crispi CXT boots. I am not a very aggressive skier, but I have wrenched my knee at least one in a fall. My question: would it be worth it to add the release kit to these bindings or would it be better to to upgrade to the 3 pin hardwire CRB bindings?
How would this Voile 3 pin w/ cables work...
How would this Voile 3 pin w/ cables work with a Alpina Blazer 3 pin boot? Thanks, Ekim.
Yep, certainly will.
I just bought a set of these to mount on...
I just bought a set of these to mount on a pair of K2 1/4 Pipe Junior Tele skis for my 10 year old daughter. I want to get her onto something beyond her BC XC gear this year. She will be using Garmont G-Rex's with them. Are there any particulars about this binding for kids and starting them doing true Telemark skiing? I saw that J.Wizo says "not for the resort"...but will they be OK for a kid on easy slopes?
I'm recently getting back into telemark...
I'm recently getting back into telemark skiing after a four-year hiatus and am interested in binding recommendations. The last pair of bindings I used were these Voiles with riser paired to K2 Extremes (yes those) and Asolo extreme lace ups.
Now I'm planning to ride with some Scarpa T2 (thanks ebay) and Atomic Beta gs skis. I'm a hard-charging aplinist at 6'5" and almost 200 lbs. I'll be skiing mostly in-bounds Colorado with some short tours and hike-out pass skiing. What's a good binding set-up for my proclivities.
These are, no offense, extremely ghetto bindings. I personally have skied with G3s and found them decent, Bishops and Hammerheads and found them decent, but I cannot recommend the Black Diamond O2 higher. They are a fantastic binding, low maintenance, fantastic flex curve, the best on the market in my opinion. I'd get the Ridiculously Stiff cartridges because you're a big guy on a fairly stiff setup. The O1 is also the same binding, but with a touring option. If you don't need the touring option, they're too expensive. O2s though, definitely.
Angus is quite uncouth, but is correct. The O2s would be a good choice for you. You might want to consider O1s (same underfoot cartridge system with a push-button free pivot mode) for your short tours. O1s are a joy to tour with.
02's and 01's are just as crappy as G3's. Go for Hammerheads! These 3 Pin Cable bindings are no good for resort skiing, or anything over 20mph. How's that for uncouth?
I'm a very experience skier, all mountain...
I'm a very experience skier, all mountain and backcountry, but a complete tele beginner. Is this binding...stable enough for a beginner?
When I started, I got the Voile CRB binding.http://www.backcountry.com/store/VOL0092/Voile-Hardwire-CRB-Telemark-Binding.htmlI know it's more expensive, but it's definitely worth it.It is releasable and they'll save your knees when you fall... and trust me, you will.Plus, it will last you a long, long time.
Second that. These 3 Pin cable bindings are not for resort skiing. I second Richie Olivier on the CRB's. Or, Hammerheads. Hammerheads are the best.