The essential alpine baselayer.
- Backcountry Exclusive
- Recycled Eco Circle Alpha Base material wicks sweat and dries fast during uphill hikes and on deep-powder days
- Three-quarter-length legs mean less fabric in your boots
- Backcountry.com is the exclusive U.S. retailer for Houdini products
- Item #HOU0084
- Q & A
Very nice mid-weight base layer
- Familiarity: I returned this product before using it
- Fit: True to size
- Size Bought: Large
These are very nice mid-weight base layer bottoms. The extra insulation on the knees feels very nice and would go a long way if you find yourself getting cold knees. I am used to more of a compression fit and sometime like to wear another layer, such as snug insulating shorts. The combination of these bottoms with the other mid-layer I wear on colder days just did not work quite right. The are very nice pants and would be excellent as a standalone base layer under a shell or insulated pant.
These are comfortable and warm. They have a thicker area around the knee for added insulation and padding. I got the large and I'm 190 6ft. They aren't skin tight so you can wear a pair of compression leggings over them on really cold days. The top has a wide elastic band which is comfortable. I have way to many base layers and these are in the top 2. I also have a Houdini hoodie which is amazing.
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
- Fit: True to size
The fabric and weight of these boot-top length bottoms was great. I bought them for cooler days but it was unexpectedly warm when I skied in them for the first time. They still felt great, though and I stayed comfortable. Slight ding for being a little longer than I'd like for skiing, leaving them a touch baggy in the knees, but they didn't bind or feel bunched up. Great brand.
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I literally tried every pair of boot bottoms that Backcountry sells... yes, I ordered them all! The only ones I did not try were the Patagonia... they were out of my size in both Cap and wool.
Of all of them the Houdini's were by far the best. Significantly better fit - dramatically better. They are a 'mid-weight'(Cap3) equivalent. I ended up keeping two pairs of the Houdinis and two pairs of the North Face. TNF's are a light-weight (Cap2) equivalent. The Burtons are just terrible - you get what you pay for. The Marmots are good (own a pair from last season) but are about 1 inch shorter than you'd want to over lap your sock just a bit. I Telemark so I wear knee-pads (Black Diamonds are the best) and the Marmots are just a tad short, they work buuuutt the bottom straps from knee pads sometimes work themselves up under the bottom cuff?exposing skin. The Houdini's are more expensive but wow are they worth it. I'm 5'9" 155 and wear a Med in most, Med in TNF but a small in the Houdini.
Oh, If I was buying some and not going with the Houdini's I'd get the Icebreakers - they are VERY nice and I'd say the warmest - I'd put them at a Cap3.5 ... and were longer and great fit... but were WARM... I just did a week in BrianHead, 10� - 20� and the mid-weight Marmots kept me perfectly toasty...hence the Icebreakers would be too warm for me for an average lift-service ski day? god forbid I was skinning? I'd roast. I got the TNF's for Spring and or skinning.
Get the Houdinis? they rock.
How thick are these? Something like a...
How thick are these? Something like a running tight, or are they thicker and more insulated than that?
They are about same weight as Patagonia capilene 3, I'd say. What makes these unique is the knee patch - notice they are different color on these? That's b/c they put up an extra layer of thin fleece at the knee area, which makes the knees toasty. I use them to run in cold weather.
They are similar to a Cap3 (Mid-Weight Patagonia)...and they are fantastic. better made and fit than any others... yes I tried them all. If your looking for a Cap2 equivalent go with TNF.
James, these are a lot like the Cap 3 by patagonia, similar weight...