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Lighten your rack with the Wild Country Helium Clean Wire Quickdraw.
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The best full-sized UL draw out there
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Not much can be said about this draw that hasn't already been said--when you need something that won't weigh you down, but don't want to fight your biner with a tiny gate or a hooked nose, this is the draw to go with. The dyneema sling keeps your weight down, the biner is a dream to use, and these guys hold up surprisingly well with extended use.
points for trying
probably the most annoying thing when cleaning an overhanging route is try to get draws that have a wire gate on the wall side. wild country changed their gate design to allow for a notchless nose on the biners. the design works great, but the feeling when clipping the draws isn't great; the skinnier gate feels a little harder to clip. itcould be something you'd get used to, but i didn't like it for the few routes i used them on.
this is my favorite draw i have used, because of the dyneema sling, the rubber stopper that holds the biner in place, and its crazy light. You can carry quite a few of these and not feel like you are packing a bunch of stones. Spring is great, and they are easy to clip with. Price is high, so wait for a BC deal
Does anyone know if the caribiners are...
Does anyone know if the caribiners are identical? Has anyone tried switching them, so the colored caribiner clips to a bolt and not a rope?
Yeah they are both Heliums with one being anodized the reddish color. You can switch them out no problem.
One of the best full size biners out there.
These full size biners have everything going for them
- strong (10kn open gate strength)
- super light (33g for a full size biner amazing)
- smooth gate action
- secure (tried to cross load these biners using every way possible. Even thin dyneema slings would just flip past the gate area and load the caribiner along its major axis. I really have to wonder how they even get a minor axis rating)
The only downside is the cost, so just wait till they have a 10% or 20% deal on these and do yourself a favor and pick them up.
These draws are the biz
These little guys are truely sweet. Light, smooth and key lock/nose hood just makes your day better. The only thing I have noticed is the little rubbers are a little fragile. two were broken in a pack of 10 when I got them. I dont see this as a major drawback though as I hardly notice if I am using one with or without the rubber! lay your cash on the table. you wont regret it!
They may be a little expensive and overkill for 20m sport routes, but for the alpine and trad routes, these are awesome! I would suggest getting some longer runners so that they can be extended. With extendable runners, these draws are the best that I've used for alpine routes. I also think any weight savings are nice once I get over about 40# in the pack.
best quickdraw by far!
-super easy to clip
-don't snag at all due to the special clip
-very unique design that's ingenious
-look cool too
-sooo expensive.. but if you have the money, get em... they're top notch
silver and springy
Great carabiners, weak dogbone
These are easily my favorite biners, but after only 20 days of climbing sport and trad with these, the little rubber stoppers inside the rope end of the dogbones are starting to fail making those dogbones fairly useless. I think BD dogbones have the same feature. They work great until they fail, then your rope end biner flops around too much for comfort. That being said I think the biners kick ass, so If you can afford it I would buy ten of these and replace the dogbones with something like the trango superfly drawbones. Someone else here mentions 9kn crossload. It's actually 7kn.
As light as helium
These things are badass. They weigh hardly anything compared to your conventional quickdraw, and the gates are extra resistant and springy. While this makes clipping slightly more difficult, it is sure to drastically reduce gate flutter if you take a whipper or load the biner funny.
A few cons: price is obviously a biggy, but if you can afford them these are good draws. I'm also not a huge fan of skinny Dyneema runners, particularly longer ones, as they tend to be more twist-prone thus increasing your risk of backclipping. If you're smart and careful about clipping then you don't need to be overly concerned with this.
Overall an impressive product, and worthwhile if you've got the paycheck to justify adding these to your rack. In related news, if anyone wants to buy me a set of these, feel free.
10cm length is RED; 15cm length is BLACK.
won't buy another
hands down, these are the best draws you can ask for. they are so light, you would hardly notice them on your harness. the hooded nose makes it easy to remove from your harness and clip into that bolt before your pumped arms peel. fact, i loved them so much, i bought the biners to make into trad draws!
Do the Helium draws here at Backcountry...
Do the Helium draws here at Backcountry still have a cross loaded strength of 9kn? I have seen some of the new ones that are 7kn cross loaded. Making them weaker now for some reason...
I have never seen a Helium with a 9kn minor axis load "cross load" rating only 7kn and have seen 9kn only for open gate rating.
The heliums I own are the same as the manufacture has on there website. 24kn major axis, 7kn minor axis, 10kn open gate strength.
super light and just plain awesome
love the notchless biners cuz they don't catch on my harness or bolt hangars when cleaning. they're so light and the gates are smooth. i love climbing with them and they're pretty to boot! just wish they weren't so darn expensive...but you get what you pay for. :)
best draw i have ever used. light with hooded nose
I used to be a loyal Petzl Spirit fan, but am now converted. These are a little pricey, but worth the $.
Very predictable, smooth and sweet
I am a fan of these draws, but must say that I started with them and did not experience any of the frustration others report- I just learned with them and find them very usable- clipping is always smooth and precise, and they are a pleasure to rack up with- the hooded latch does not hook on gear or hangars, you can fit 10+ on a gear loop, the gates do not chatter, and they're plain burly in spite of being so light- if you look at the specs, these carabiners are rated stronger than many lockers.
Another thing that sets these draws apart is the ropeside end of the dogbone- it's got a little elastomer thingy that secures the anodized carabiner in the draw such that it loads on the long axis of the rope-side 'biner every time.