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Let’s see … When would be a great time to have the Stoic Men’s Merino Crew Short-Sleeve Shirt in your pack? If the day calls for a sunset hike, ridgeline backpacking foray, cross-country mountain bike ride, trad climb, trail run, or even a ski tour. That’s when. Because this merino crew’s made with super-soft, fine wool, it won’t give you a ruinous case of the scratchies. All it’ll do is insulate your pelt from the cool mountain air, breathe perspiration away before it ever beads up, and fight odor buildup. Which all sounds pretty good to us.
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Bottom Line: Layer it up, sweat your guts out, and still smell good enough for a few I.P.A.’s later…. WIN.
This shirt is nice. It is cut well and the material is fairly soft. It's not quite a soft as some of the Icebreaker pieces, but it gets better with washing. The wash instructions recommend using Nikwax wool wash for best results. I haven't washed with it and have noticed no ill effects. I recommend this shirt as a good, less expensive, merino shirt.
Has anyone else gotten the color Deep/Deep? I ordered two of these (one Shale/shale, one Deep/Deep) and the Shale came exactly as pictured, but the Deep came with yellow stitching. There are two different pictures of blues that are both fine, but neither hint at yellow stitching. Did I get the wrong color, or is Deep/Deep actually Deep/Citron(yellow)?
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This is another great product from Stoic. It's made from their super comfy merino wool which I absolutely love! The size is true and it keeps me dry while no matter what activity I'm doing. P.S. I'm 5'10" & 195lbs
Update: I only have one gripe about this shirt after wearing it a few times. This shirt has a small v cut on the neck which appears to be directly centered but is in fact not. When wearing this shirt the v is off to the left side no matter how much I adjust it. I think it's a defect in the product because my long sleeve shirt doesn't have this issue.
Wear it for days, it won't funk up. Athletic fit makes me look great. All the colors look great, although the yellow allows certain parts of your anatomy to show through. But that isn't a problem because you will look so great in these shirt that the brilliance of your awesomeness will blind innocent bystanders. Just make sure to wash with Nixwax Wool wash to prolong their life. I am 6'1" and 195 lbs with an athletic build and the large fits me perfect with enough shirt at the bottom to tuck in if you choose or leave exposed without looking like you are wearing your Mom's night shirt.
How bright is the green? I have this shirt in other colors and most of them look different in person than in the product description. Can I expect the shade in photo or darker, or is it more a kelly green?
i think the detail image of the color and stoic logo is the most accurate. a bit darker than the front shot of GRAZE. other stoic styles use this graze also.
I heard a lot of positive things about merino as I researched clothing for camping/backpacking this summer. Intrigued by its alleged ability to insulate and wick like polyester with out all the gym-funk smell, I quickly snagged one of these off of SAC. Upon its arrival, I wore the shirt hiking 4 consecutive days in a row without washing and I am proud to announce that it only had a faint musky odor like a cotton shirt would get, not that sickly B@!!-sweat smell that all of my polyester base layer and gym clothing gets. So that test passed! I'm 5'9" 170# and the medium fits well. As you can see from the picture I posted, the shirt is light and does fit a little snug. I will call it an athletic fit, because it's looser than say an Under Armour compression fit. The shirt tail is a bit long, I presume because the piece is likely meant as a base layer to be tucked in, but it's not so long as to look sloppy. I love the cut of the sleeves and the pseudo-V-neck is great. I do like this thing enough that I have already ordered a second one off of SAC. I would rate it at 4.5 stars if I could, but due to the MSRP price I'm not real sure the value warrants a full-on 5. I suppose we will see this summer when I add 50lbs of pack to the hiking scenario. Promise to update if my opinion changes!
Update as of 11-11-2010 This is my new fall favorite for running. When the temps are still too warm for that annoyingly clinging under-armour, but a little too chill for your polyester technical shirt with the billions of little holes in it, enter the blissful wool solution! PS, still loving it for hiking and camping, just gotta be careful about hipbelt-buckles pinching and eating the light weight wool fabric!
Only thing I might suggest to Stoic is to make a different cut to the shirt tail, perhaps sell it as a different shirt all together. I understand the almost "night shirt" cut so that you can tuck it in without fear of it coming untucked; but some of us just don't tuck. I'm not a tucker. There, I said it. (still love the shirt)
I really like mine. I went with the size medium. I'm 5'11" and 155lbs which fits me perfect. It's a great fit. I was a little bummed when the first time I took it off after a jog I heard something rip. After several uses and washes I still haven't found what actually ripped and it still fits like new. Great shirt for backpacking, hiking, and trail running.
Mine made the rip noise in the collar when I tried to take it off too fast, but the stitching looks like it's tripled there so I don't think it matters.
Mine made a rip noise one of the first times i took if off as well. I've owned mine for at least six months and wear it regularly and have had no issues with any stitching coming apart.
I'm looking for a good shirt that does not hold odor but can be used comforterbally in Carolina summers, sohow would this shirt work for summer in the southeast where temps can get into the 100's and humidity of 100%.
These shirts do a great job of masking odor but as Ryan posted they smell kind of funky when they are damp but the smell goes away when they dry. The Capilenes are also hard to beat and I have a few of them.
You will not have a synthetic BO Smell, but Fully Saturated wool can sometimes smell like a wet dog. I personally think that wool is great in the heat..
This works as it is supposed to. I haven't had durability issues, but don't usually wear it by itself (its not quite compression fit, but definitely snug). I have similar shirts from both Ice Breaker and SmartWool, which I do like better, but they were 50% more expensive and I don't like them 50% better.
This works as it is supposed to. I haven't had durability issues, but don't usually wear it by itself (its not quite compression fit, but definitely snug). I have similar shirts from both Ice Breaker and SmartWool, which I do like better, but they were 50% more expensive and I don't like them 50% better.
Justin - curious what specific aspects of the Icebreaker and SMW shirts you like better - fit, fabric weight, color, etc... We're always looking for input on ways to improve the line.
As far as comfort goes stoics merino can't be beat. I own a bunch of icebreaker stuff and it just isn't as comfy. This shirt has a surprising amount of stretch to it and feels great on the skin. The fit is perfect as has been my experience with stoic. The one aspect that i would say icebreaker wins in is it's ability to fend off odor. Maybe i was having a stinky few days or something but this shirt seems to hold odor more so than any other wool clothing i own. Also the softness and stretchiness of the shirt make me wonder about durability, but so far so good.
I bought a couple of these shirts (November 2010) and when wet, they smell like a wet dog (sheep presumably), not a hint of smell when dry, this definitely doesn't happen to my i/o, icebreaker or smartwool stuff, did I get a bad batch or will the smell go away after a couple of washes?
Hmm, all of my merino smells a little when wet, including my IB, Ibex and I/O. It's something that I'm used to at this point and not worried about it when it happens, though I do have to be careful when I'm going to sweat a lot to dry off before I visit with the ladies. :)
My one Icebreaker t-shirt smells pretty funky after it comes out of the washing machine, so I accepted this as a foregone conclusion with all wool shirts. I just bought two of these and haven't washed them yet, but I'm expecting the same experience as you had with them.
Hmm, wool in general smells pretty funky when wet. I kind of ignore it because it's warm. I have an Icebreaker Chase Crew and a BC Merino Shirt and they both can smell pretty ripe when they get wet.
I recently wore this shirt for a 3 week sea kayaking expedition in the San Juan Islands and absolutely loved it. Conditions ranged from cool nights in the 40s to days in the 70s with a mix of sun, clouds, and heavy rain. The shirt felt as lightweight and breathed like other synthetic tees that I have worn like (Patagonia Capilene 1, North Face Nemesis, etc). It even dried faster than I expected and was a great shirt to wear under my Kokatat dry top or alone under my PFD on hot days.
The best part of this shirt by far is the odor control. I didn't notice any odor build up until about day 10 and even after day 10 the shirt smelled relatively great given that I had been wearing it non-stop.
This is a great buy especially if you get it on sale or SAC. Make the switch from synthetic to wool or add another wool tee shirt to your arsenal - it's worth it.
I've purchased two of these shirts on SAC and I will probably come back and get a couple more! The quality is very nice and the merino wool is very soft and keeps me very cool, plus they look great. I suggest sizing up if you have any doubts about size because they have an athletic cut.
I've owned the previous version (back when it had the goat instead of the stoic logo) for a couple years and liked it so much I picked up one of these. As far as I can tell, they're completely the same. Used it all spring, this plus an Arc'teryx Gamma MX hoody had me covered me from winter through spring, with some wicking sleeves once the summer heat rolled around. No stink, great athletic fit (165lb, 5'11", top-heavy and fit great in medium), outrageously comfortable.
I had high expectations. Here are my findings: - Does everything it claims, which is dry fast, doesn't stink, wicks moisture, and fits well (athletic fit, similar to Arc'teryx). Thank you Stoic for making a shirt to fit people who are in shape! (shape NOT being round). - The shirt is really itchy. I have to get used to it every time I put the shirt on, and still notice it throughout the day. - When the shirt is soaked with sweat or water it gets difficult to take off. I've hear some stitches tearing while taking mine off (I'm not that rough!). I now handle the shirt with great care as I don't want it to fall apart!
I wear the shirt on a regular basis but am not super excited about it and would probably get a different brand if it wasn't for the awesome price I got this for.
I really enjoy this shirt for outdoor activities. It dries quickly, breathes moisture well, and doesn't get that funky smell after a few hours of sweating in it. Merino wool is as great as they all say. Only thing is that this shirt has a tight athletic fit, if you like a little more room go up a size.
I used one of these as my only t-shirt for two weeks and it held up. I used another one for canyoneering and it's held up. I boulder in them, I bring them to the desert, to the woods, to everywhere outside! I'm slowly converting all of my baselayers into merino wool because they:
Are softer and don't get that weird hardness after extended use Don't retain the nasty smell like polyester Breathe way better Hide sweat better Dry faster (especially when exposed to salt water) and sometimes most importantly, just feel better.
I've washed them repeatedly and they haven't broke down. I originally purchased them off of SAC and I'm glad I did.
I hadn't actually thought about it before. According to this website (http://www.run79.co.nz/MerinoTech.aspx) it has an SPF of 25-50+. I don't have anything quantitative to add, but I certainly get tan lines when wearing merino t-shirts so there clearly is some amount of sun-blocking going on.
I tested it out on a 7.5 mile bike ride with temperatures in the high 70s and it did a good job of wicking sweat and keeping me cool. The wool is really soft and feels great.
As far as the actual shirt goes, it does a fine job wicking away moisture still smells fine even after wearing it for a couple days and doing physical activity.
Unfortunately the white color slightly see through. It's not too bad because it's loose (I got a large), but if were to wear a medium or small (like I normally would), I would feel a little exposed.
I bought this shirt on SaC, and took it on two 2-day trips with a ~30lb pack on. After the first trip the shirt had developed a few holes from rubbing against the snaps on the inside of my pants. For the second trip I decided to not tuck the shirt in to avoid the problem, but it then rubbed against the belt and developed more holes; it looks like I ran a cheese grater over the shirt (picture attached, w/ quarter for size comparison).
I liked the shirt, but for a shirt this price it needs to last more than 4 days of use. I contacted bc.com support about it, and they seemed to agree it was a warranty issue, but since I bought it on SaC they will not honor the stoic "lifetime warranty".
Long story short, don't wear this shirt with a pack. I really like the other stoic items I've purhcased, but I'm going to avoid their merino products from now on, and I'll likely be much more wary about purchasing any stoic products on steepandcheap.
Um...does it say somewhere on the Stoic site or SAC that they wont honor Stoic warranties on SAC purchases? Doesnt seem right. What if it was gifted? Are they going to ask you to call your Aunt Matilida in nosebleed Vermont and get some proof or purchase?
I had a similar issue on this shirt, but on the back where my pack rubbed a hole in it. I emailed SAC and they said that they have a 30 day return policy, except on Stoic merchandise which is lifetime. "It's our brand!" was their quote in the email I received. You may want to review this with them, because I think you have been misinformed.
Hey, WHOA! Backcountry.com, not cool. You won't honor the warranty on your OWN brand, because it was purchased through your OWN outlet? *sigh* Look, I've had nothing but good experiences with backcountry.com's customer service. And I get that Steep&Cheap is an outlet, which could mean anything from overstock to seconds. But when it's your own merchandise, you know perfectly well what its condition is. I don't think it's completely unreasonable to honor your warranty on your brand if you know it was overstock. Please consider it. And if you really, truly can't manage it, please at least add that caveat to the "What's the catch" section of the How It Works page in the S&C help area. Thanks!
Usually you have to give up a year's pay for anything merino, but not with BC. This shirt is amazing! I test wore it on a 15 mile mountain bike ride the day after I got it and it works wonders. It didn't smell, get beat up after a fall or two, and wicked great. The extended tail is great as well, making sure you don't become a plumber out on the trail. The collar fits snugly, which I like a lot, but I would recommend to size up from the recommendations listed.
these new merino shirts are made of a better merino wool. 17.5 micron which is softer. quality is great. durability may not be better, but the softness and feel of the merino is better. for more durability and off width climbing, try the Breathe tech tee, a more durable polyester yarn.
I'm going to find out..just got one on SAC. You know the bc.com ones and the stoic ones have a lifetime warranty from the manufacturer (BC/stoic)..why not chat them up if you really feel they went fast. They are thin but mine have held up well so far -- did they wear thin where pack-straps are or what?
Kinda bummed. First time out with it and after hiking 4mi, it developed holes from contact with my belt buckle. This shirt wasn't as soft as I'd thought either. I much prefer my Stoic Breathe 90 T for comfortability, faster drying, and lightweight without feeling like I'm wearing a delicate napkin.
I really dig these shirts, especially for what I paid off SAC. I'm not crazy about the strange collar/neck construction, I prefer a normal circular cut. However, that's about my only complaint! These shirts are pretty durable (for merino), they wick sweat very well, dry quickly and they don't smell (that bad). I don't own any icebreaker shirts so I can't compare, but my patagonia merino 4 smells a little better than these Stoic merinos after some sweaty days. If you're a little chunky in the midsection (fatty) don't buy, or size up. You have been warned so no bad reviews about how you thought they were tight, and that's the shirts fault... they have a very athletic fit. I think improvements would be: Arms a little bigger, normal collar. The second just being personal preference though. I'm very happy with the two shirts I have, they work great and were an exceptional value. 5'10/190# Size L fits me just right, read above though. Not for chunky drawers.
Wear this thing more than a shirt should be worn. Regulates temperature like a champ. Fit is a nice athletic cut without being to short or restrictive. Can wear for several days without it starting to smell at all and if you just air it out for a night its good as new, even after sweaty activities.
I agree with Jared and Matt. It's nice to have a low key, conservative, less noticeable piece for when I want to go incognito. That being said, sometimes it is just fun to look techy. Maybe I'm a nerd that way.
I hope Stoic begins to offer a combination of both more plain, less noticeable pieces along with whatever the designers want to do creativity wise. I like options!
probably not. stoic seems like it's going for 'the stupid-crazy 80's look' in most of their gear but forgot that even when those trends re-appear, they are just that, trends. You could see a little of this bizzaro seep out in Backcountry brand pieces ('carrot, aqua, etc' on pullovers/shift), its like they let those designers have free reign when it came to the stoic line.
I'd agree with you--the bc ones were solid and plain. these with stitching look more like some sugoi bike shirt
A thin merino wool shirt is the perfect base layer for year around afairs! Be aware they are very thin, so wearing them while bush wacking isn't a good idea. But weather its summer heat bike rides, multi days backpacking trips, or 8 hours on the skin track, I always wear these shirts! The stoic quality is always a bonus,
Got one off SAC. Reminds me of the backcountry merino shirts. Super comfortable and great athletic fit. My only complaint is the directions say hang dry, which can be tough to remember. Haven't accidentally dried it yet to see what happens.
I just got the Charcoal color shirt yesterday. Merino is so very soft and comfortable. Great to sleep in as well. The arms are slimmer as the pictures would seem to indicate. I normally wear a small (130lbs 5'8") but I sized up to have this be a looser fitting everyday shirt.
The length is plentiful.
Went for a bike ride today and the merino feels comfortable even when sweating a ton. Moving around feels great in the shirt as well because of the soft texture and stretch.
I grabbed it off of SAC so I am completely happy with this to wear around everyday.
Just a note...the silk screening tag on the inside of the shirt rubs off easily, but not really important. I suppose that means the minimal external silk screening could rub off, but that obviously doesn't rub on you as often as the back of the shirt.
I am 5ft 11in 215 with 44-46 inch chest and 15-16 inch arms with with big shoulders. i got an XL and it is snug to tight through the shioulders/arm/chest and loose throught waist (38 in). Straight out of the shipping package i wore to the gym and it was a great sirt, light and comfortable. it is a little long but thats fine i dont really fit the normal Stoic skinny guy mold. i wear an XL in Arc'teryx stuff for comparison great shirt, recommend it
yeah i'm convinced on the merino. Only downside for pure merino (and not blends with synthetic) is that its going to be $25 on sale...and $45-60MSRP depending on brand. Only downside. The convincing part is the lack of odor after extended wear. An hour sweating in a synthetic shirt and the stank is established like a fat man at a buffet. The merino does such an excellent job, days later, I smell the shirt to see if it is good for another go and muse, "this doesn't really smell, does it?" The fact that it is soft, fits well, made in canada, and looks good is just icing. this stoic shirt is the same as the bc.com merino shirts, sans the goat. Honestly, I prefer the goat logo and the bc.com colors, to me it is a marketing switcheroo and that leaves a bunch of question marks over bc.com brand loyalist's head. But hey, brand it with a squirrel logo or arcane alchemy symbols, so long as it's merino i'm buying.
Used the stoic merino crew short sleeve this weekend and have to say it is nearly the same cut. I held it against a tried and true bc.com merino i have and it seems to be about an inch longer in the back, which I think is a fine variation. I also compared it to the bc.com wall tshirt (http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Backcountry-Merino-Wall-T-Shirt-Short-Sleeve-Mens/BCC0227M.html) and the stoic shirt seemed identical to that. The bc.com one I've had the longest (about a year) so maybe it is the wash/dry cycle that has gotten to it (and makes up for the difference in tail length)
similar cut to the merino crew of the goat years. yes this yellow is a bit off, i think your color vision is good. Our photograph editor, perhaps not so much! the true color is a citron.
Just like the BC version of it, this shirt rocks! This time I got 3 of these instead of just a couple. I climb outdoors once a week and at least one more time in the gym so I wear them out quite quickly. They're very light, keep the stinkiness inside, and have a very nice fit. I am 6'3" and weight about 172lbs, and the medium is perfect - yes I like athletic fit. They're very thin so they might not last as long as some thicker ones but that's the price to pay to almost feel shirtless on a route.
I bought this shirt in the early spring. I have used it as a running shirt all summer - a very hot summer and it was still more comfortable than any of my synthetic shirts. I will likely buy more of these and phase out the synthetics. Love the length - I'm just under 6 feet tall and 175 - I like the way the large fits.
I bought one of these back in the spring. It is the only shirt I have worn all summer for running. I love the odor control, and the overall comfort. I have numerous synthetic running shirts but this is my go-to shirt. It has been a very hot summer and yet this is the most comfortable shirt I have.
I bought one of these back in the spring. It is the only shirt I have worn all summer for running. I love the odor control, and the overall comfort. I have numerous synthetic running shirts but this is my go-to shirt. It has been a very hot summer and yet this is the most comfortable shirt I have.
Great shirt. This is my first piece of merino and I love it! Its extremely light weight and doesnt seem like it would keep you warm, but it does and it breathes every well. It is more of an athletic fit, so size up if you want a little more room and not look like you were shrunk-wrapped in the material. I wore this all day out camping and when it cooled off at night, all I added was the BC Rime Pullover and stayed at a perfect temp. all evening. Im a big fan of merino now and have suggested it to friends, especially if you can pick one up on SAC and make it an even better deal.
I'm trying to switch over to just merino for extended hiking trips, so when these pop up on steepandcheap i grab them. I have both the long sleeve and the short sleeve versions and they are BY FAR the best shirts for hiking. I forgot my short-sleeves on a recent trip to big bend this past week and did remember to bring my black long-sleeve (incase it got cold at night). I was worried it would be to hot for hiking there because of it's color and sleeve length, but i took the chance and it truly brought my understanding of merinos magic to a whole new level.
Fit wise, I like versatility, so i go for more of a normal T-Shirt fit. So, I go XXL at 6'2 230 linebacker build and it's perfect.
I haven't had the opportunity to put it up to backpacking tests but it's a perfect compliment to any layering attire for warmth and breath-ability. I'm a 5'9" guy at 170lbs and this thing fits like a glove.
I have 2 of these -- blue and black. Not a compression fit, but not loose. Slim fit is the best way to describe them, and no itch at all. Extremely versatile. Like the fact that the tail is a tad longer than the front.
I've got two of these shirts from SAC. I use them for a base layer snowboarding, splitboard touring and mountain biking. These shirts are amazing. The merino is so great because you don't smell like a locker room the instant you start to sweat. You can wear this shirt all day biking or touring and go get a beer afterwords and not send everyone running from the bar.
The fit is tight- "athletic" I guess, so if you are worried about your beer gut showing, size up.
Very nice fabric, soft, stretchy, doesn't absorb stink like synthetics and warm yet breathable.
Fit is slim, especially in the arms. If you're border line size up. Otherwise solid thin merino T-shirt. I machine wash and sometimes (accidentally) machine dry mine without issue.
The best lightweight short sleeved merino base layer I've come across. The two I purchased from SAC last year as still in great condition. They've been a lot more durable than other 150 g/m^2 wool tops, like Smartwool Microlight, etc. A lot less pilling than the Smartwool Microlight, too. Like a lot of folks, I want a light, thin base layer for 3-season use- but I hate when you can see my nipples or body hair through the shirt. If a shirt does that, I get worried about wearing it as casual wear, or while day hiking. This top doesn't have this problem, at least in Deep/Deep and Beehive/Black. I love the cut- it fits me very well, and I've received quite a few compliments on it. Chest sizing is a bit small, but that works well for me- I wear XL in standard fit stuff like Columbia, but for Patagonia, Mountain Hardwear, Arc'teryx and others XL is a bit small and XXL is too big. XXL for this top fits perfectly, right between most athletic fit XL and XXLs. I wouldn't size up unless you think you need it- XXL is more like a 1.5 XL, not XL.
The only thing I don't like about this top is the collar. I imagine they wanted something distinctive, but the look doesn't work well IMHO. Not a big deal to me, especially at the SAC price- the performance of the top more than makes up for the goofy looking collar.
I like the shirt in Phantom. Good quality and happy with it. But I would warn others that is is very tight cut/very athletic cut. I fit a medium based on the sizing chart, but the medium is very tight, and can rub near the neck and underarms. I would recommend ordering a size up unless you want a tight fit.
Picked up a couple of these off of SAC and they're great.
They've kept my core warm and dry in chilly, rainy weather and cool and dry on 30 mile zone 5 rides when it was 77 deg and sunny as base layer. Seems stylish enough to wear by itself as a super comfy tee shirt for casual wear. The cut and fit are awesome for me, snug enough in all the right places for athletic pursuits w/o feeling painted on or restrictive and enough length in the sleeves and tail to keep things covered, whether tucked or untucked (I have a relatively long torso and arms however).
They seem to do a great job of odor fighting so far for me. Wound up wearing one of them for two days straight last weekend and it exuded no discernible stink whatsoever when I took it off after the longish, sweaty, high intensity ride on day 2.
Can't speak to long term durability as I've only had mine for a couple of weeks, but they seem to have held up well so far through multiple wearings and a couple of washings.
My only complaints would be why no true white color and put the long sleeve ones up on SAC so I can buy some at the same kind of bargain price as the short sleeve ones :)
I'll admit...this shirt is my first piece of merino. Historically, I've just worn synthetic material t-shirts due to the high cost of merino. However, I saw this shirt on sale and decided to take the plunge. For my initial test, I wore it for 3 straight days backpacking in Alaska. I was worried that it would be itchy against my skin, but I never noticed it was on, which I thought was a big compliment. I found it to be super comfortable and not itchy. It layered perfectly under my Patagonia Capilene 3 zip-neck baselayer, which also has an athletic cut. Other t-shirts tend to bunch underneath the Cap 3, but this one was perfectly smooth underneath. Beware...the fit is very athletic so it's not super flattering for those of us with beer guts. Notwithstanding, I'm looking forward to buying more merino from Stoic.
June 19 2010 is when I bought the shirts and I still wear them. Some may say there durability is not that great and I will say it depends. I work at a wastewater treatment plant. A lot of where I work is very hot and Sweat is uncontrollable. This shirt controls it to a big extent. Polyester just does not perform as good as this shirt will. I sweat a lot as many people do at work. Difference is this shirt is comfortable when its wet with sweat. Another difference is this shirt dries very quickly so your shirt gets wet in sweat and I swap to a new shirt (same shirt). Point is I always have a comfortable shirt to wear in. When you work 50+ hours being comfortable is worth the price.
Take a look at the picture. See all that material bunching around the armpits... Unless your built like twiggy and get a size larger than you normally need, it's going to bind in the pits something awful. I'm 5'9" 165 lbs with an athletic build. I can usually were a medium, sometimes a large. I ordered the medium here and I had to return it, after five minutes, I just couldn't wait to get it off. The sleeves aren't made like normal sleeves, they're tubes, that originate at the neck on the top and several inches below your armpit on the bottom. A really odd fit & totally uncomfortable.
Bought the shirt off of the S&C website. I wear it as my baselayer while conducting bird surveys in Colorado. I wore the shirt 9 days in a row, and it helped control my temperature--when it was reaching into the 90s the last few days. Also, I didn't smell like the dirty bum that I indeed was on the 9th day of wearing the same shirt.
Purchased size L. Returning this t-shirt. The shirt is too narrow across shoulders and too tight through chest. Would fit 42" chest or less. Length was good for my 6' frame.
Have quite a few of these in my wardrobe in addition to the long-sleeved version. Great shirt, extremely comfortable and am always finding myself wearing them. Only issue I've noticed is in regards to long-term durability, but then again it would be the same case with any light weight wool gear. My charcoal colored shirt gets the most abuse/wear -- thrown in the wash w/ the rest of my day to day clothes, and after about 6 months I started to notice small holes along the bottom front. Barely noticeable and would probably be a non issue if I treated it like the rest.
5'10" and the medium fits great. Athletic fit to it, so you might want to size up if you're a bit pudgy around the mid-section.
Love the shirt. It fits great, decent price. The Citron color is NOT yellow though. It looks more like a pea soup green. Other than the color thing, it's a great shirt.
Worth every penny at full price. On sale or SteepandCheap, buy 3. Merino wool is always expensive. Next to Icebreaker, this is the best Ive found for the fit and cost.
I use this shirt as a base layer (cycling/skiing) and as a casual t-shirt. It regulates your core temp well. The collar is a little odd (look at the detail shots in lighter colors). Basically each side slopes down towards the center of the neck with a small triangle that bridges between the two sides. Regardless of why its cut like this, it seems to help the collar lay very flat against the neck/chest (i.e., good at keeping the wind out while cycling in the drops).
For cycling, I wear it alone with a short sleeve summer weight cycling jersey and lycra arm warmers down to 50-55 F. I wore one out with a pair of thermal bibs, Castelli LS thermal jersey and Castelli Leggerezza jacket at 15F and I was too warm. Size Info.: Small for my 36 chest fits perfectly (not too tight, not too loose). My metrics are: 155 lbs, 61, 36 chest.
I guess that I can't order any more Stoic. I find the fit odd - two different shirts, of two different materials, but both cut me in the armpits badly. I normally fit in mediums, but unless you are a skinny dude, I would move up a size. Then again, maybe it is just me. Materials and workmanship look good, although the citron looks bright yellow on the web, but was much more green in reality.
Ditto for me. 6'0, 180lb, 40" chest, toothpick arms. XL fits fine except arm holes still way too tight. Circumferences:
typical cotton T 20.5" average dress shirt (vary) 20.5 Icebreaker T 19 Stoic 16.5
That's 2x the linear height of the sleeve top with the shirt laid out flat unstretched. Stoic's sleave "top" is not deliminated, so measuring the same distance from collar center as other shirts.
Many guys I know are bigger than me. Who knows what they can ever buy in any brand. Nice material. No smell. Wifey (5'2 100lb) is eyeing this Stoic, and she will be welcome to it.
I picked this up from SAC for a good discount. After wearing it on a couple of climbs and a backpacking trip, I'm happy with the anti-stink Merino wool. It smells fine in situations where a synthetic shirt would smell like something that's been dead for a week.
The material is thin, which is great for summer hikes, but it's not very durable. I brushed up against a tree branch on the approach to a climb and the fabric ripped pretty easily. It's just a small hole, so I'll try to fix it and keep the shirt.
Sizes run small -- I'm usually between a medium and a large, but with this shirt, the large is snug.
Breathes like a champ, fits awesome (5'10", 165 lbs athletic build and it was just snug enough), great color, no stink, everything I would want in a shirt except that on the third outing with a backpack it started getting a bunch of little holes in the back. There's no way to avoid friction when carrying a pack, and a shirt described as suitable for 'a ridgeline backpacking foray' should hold up for many more wears. But, I do love my Stoic Welder Lo and Bliss l/s shirt, and Backcountry's return policy is second to none, so while I don't like the shirt I'm still a happy customer.
This shirt fits well (if you like a clingy fit), is lightweight, breathes well, and functions well both as a baselayer in cold weather and as your only layer in summer. It is not a magical BO killer, though. After a hard day of hiking in it, it still smells funky. Admittedly not as bad as with polyester, but it definitely stinks.
Reading some of the reviews for this shirt, you'd think you could wear it for a week on the trail and still smell as fresh on day 7 as day 1. Not true, guys. (Unless I have some unusually radioactive underarm sweat, that is.) This shirt will pick up funk and does need to be washed regularly.
Still, it's a good shirt. If it wasn't so darn expensive I'd give it 4 stars. Try to get it on SAC for a better deal, like I did.
This is the best hiking shirt I have ever owned. It is very soft and comfortable, warm but not hot, snug fit but not ridiculous, sheds sweat pretty well, and does not get stinky, a huge plus for me. If they weren't so expensive, I would buy four more!
I purchased a few of these shirts on sale from Backcountry. The are much nicer than I would have expected. The tailoring is excellent, and the hybrid neck is really comfortable. They are much better wool and better craftmanship than Smartwool, but not as good as IceBreaker. But IceBreaker is significantly more expensive. I give them 4 stars because, as you can see in the photos here on Backcountry, they tend to bunch up a little in the armpit area. This is pretty minor, and I don't notice it unless I look in mirror...
Merino is where it's at. This is stoic tee shirt is the ideal base layer for any outdoor winter activity but it also looks sharp. I also wear it to the gym, yoga, etc.
If you don't gotta have the funk like George Clinton than look no further.
Breathable, light and keeps you warm. Great tight fitting base layer
Very form fitting, if you like a roomier cut go with Icebreaker : ICE0346
Length is good, sleeves not over-long like the sleeves can be on Stoic long-sleeve shirts. I am 5'11" 165 lbs thinner, and a M fits me good for a tight-er base layer.
This is my second one of these and the fit is better this go round. Both are large (I'm 6' and about 158lbs) but this one is a little looser while still being an active fit. It's super comfy and the colors are good.
I love this shirt. It keeps me cool when it's warm, and it keeps me warm when it is cool. It has a great fit, and I don't have to worry about it stretching out of shape. I am very happy with this shirt.
Winter running is the time I really get to put a lot of my garments through the paces. It's that time of year where I'm trying to dump a lot of excess heat, stay dry, and stay comfortable. Went for a run yesterday wearing just this shirt, some shorts, and my wind shirt. Perfect combination. I ended up warm in my core, dry, and had none of that sweaty irritation that I sometimes experience with my poly pro layers. The fit was very nice and I'd agree with some of the other reviewers that the weight of the shirt suggests that it likely won't be a long term piece, but I suppose that is the hit you take with natural fibers. I'll worry about durability when it comes up, for now I'm not going to baby the shirt, I'm just going to use it.
Fit notes: I'm 5'10, 155lb, small waist with a tapered climbers build and the size S fits me perfectly; not too tight and certainly not too loose.
Picked this up at the same time I got the long sleeve version. I went with the Navy in XL (I'm 6'3" and 230). Its super soft and was nice for a winter hike up Ferguson Canyon in SLC. I love the color as well, its not nearly as bright as the pics would lead you to believe though. My only complaint is the fit. I don't mind and athletic fit at all but it just seems snug in the wrong way and a little short in the torso. What throws me off is that the long sleeve version is perfect for fit, athletic without being awkwardly snug and just a touch longer in the torso. I'll probably return for a XXL and see how that works.
I have been waiting since last May to get one of these sweet merino shirts! Way worth the cash and the wait! This thing breathes well, wicks well, and feels good. At first I was concerned that the sizing would be a little Euro, but after trying both a large and medium I find that the shirt is true to size. I strongly recommend it to anyone considering the purchase!
This shirt is nice. It is cut well and the material is fairly soft. It's not quite a soft as some of the Icebreaker pieces, but it gets better with more...
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