Dirty Mustache to the rescue.
The Moment Deathwish Ski has carved out a radically innovative niche for itself with its Dirty Mustache Rocker. You know that powder is meant to be surfed and smeared with a nice fat flat-cambered and twin-rockered set of boards, but you don't want to feel like you're skiing with a death wish after the goods get tracked out either. Dirty Mustache to the rescue—the innovative rocker places three cambered points in the midsection that securely bite the hardpack but don't come to play when the flakes start to fall. Prepare to surf, smear, and pivot like you wrote the book, then sculpt groomers on your way back to the lift.
- The Dirty Mustache Rocker is comprised of a rockered tip and tail with three cambered pressure points underfoot that give the ski bite on hard snow yet prove ineffective when in the powder so you can surf, smear, and float
- The aspen and pine core is light and poppy while providing rigidity and is made entirely with FSC-certified lumber
- Carbon fiber stringers combine with fiberglass laminates to provide maximum strength against torsional twisting and to fine-tune the flex of the ski
- A fat 112mm underfoot allows this ski to live up to its name
- The extruded UHMW polyethylene sidewall resists separation and is light and durable
- The 1.2mm sintered Durasurf base is built to take a beating while staying super-fast
- The 2.2mm Edge is hardened to 48 Rockwell and has undergone additional heat treating to ensure the long life and sharp bite of this board
- All Moment skis are proudly handmade in the good old USA
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Love this ski!
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I was looking for a ski that I could take all over the mountain, in all conditions and definitely found it. I'm 6'5" and got the 190cm. The Dirty Mustache is what really sold me... not for the so called name, but how it's marketed to ride. It really is a playful ski - quick turns and pretty floaty in in the soft. I set this ski up with 22 design's Vice and feel pretty comfortable in all areas. Absolutely my most favorite ski owned to date!
Just bought my deathwishes
I demoed these more out of curiosity about the triple camber. I was looking for a daily driver and figured that 112 underfoot was going to be too wide for everyday. I was wrong. I've been out on my new DWs about 5 days now. They're super fun everywhere. They rail like a race ski. Their 25m radius feels like 17 or 18. They are stable at speed,rock solid over drops, arc switch,and slice up the slush like nothing I've been on. I can't speak to the powder performance as we haven't had any good days since I bought them but I have to imagine that's their strength.
Some people have been asking about mounting point. It may be true (from an earlier post) that recommended is -5 from center, that would be tip/tail center. My rough observation is that recommended is only about -1 cm from running surface center (between front/back contact points). I wouldn't mess too much with recommended as the center camber area isn't that big and you want to be in that range for the hard snow railing capability.
Summary: if you can't buy these at least find a pair to try.
I can't decide between the 174 or the 184...
I can't decide between the 174 or the 184 cm length skis. I am 5'7"and weigh 142 lb. I ski mainly in the Sierra Nevada and can ski anywhere on the mountain backcountry, side country, or groomers. Any thoughts? Thanks!
I'd go with the 174, the 184 are going to be pretty damn stiff for someone your size. And the tighter turn radius will help on the groomers.
awesome ski! only taken it out a few days (got them at my local shop in early Jan this year) but theyve proven their worth. im 5'10" and 155 lbs, got the 184's with a rossi axial 140 binding on factory line. they float and turn in powder, and do incredibly well in double-black-diamond-and-up VT woods. they carve well on groomers and CHARGE through chop (compared to my rossi scimitars haha). they feel good hitting bigger drops. as for ice, you should get comfortable with your power position.
moment really did what they said they did, i love the dirty mustache. the only reason im whining is because i paid full price in january when i couldve saved a couple hundred if i waited til now. but thats what i get for buying a ski at full price. DONT MAKE MY MISTAKE. BUY THIS SKI TODAY
So I was thinking of mounting these skis...
So I was thinking of mounting these skis at -1 cm from True Center of the ski. I am riding the 190's and my thoughts on this is that with my boot size (27.5 mondo) it will place the bindings just aft of the tip camber (1 or 2 cm at most) and slightly in front of the tail camber (probably 3-4 cm in front of the tail camber at most). I am 6'4" and 200 lbs and my thoughts looking at the design is that it allows for an almost True Center mount, plus with the light weight and sweet tip and tail rocker the ski could become a dope off piste freeski mounted at -1. I would love any thoughts on this because I don't want to mount at -1 and regret it forever because I ruined the performance of the ski. The mounting line on these skis directly from Moment is like 14 cm back from true center and that is why I am concerned going for only 1 cm back. Should I mount at that position or is my thinking way off base????
I'm curious to see what you went with here. Just purchased some 184's today.
i mounted my 184's on the factory line and love them. they rip at high speed and i can hop around tight VT trees like a dream.
- Gender: Male
I had the opportunity to get on the 13/14 deathwish (same ski different top sheet) at the WWWSRA ski demo at Mt Bachelor yesterday. I picked that ski not because my shop carries Moment but because I was intrigued by this dirty mustache rocker that Moment advertises is a one ski game changer. My first turns on the cat tracks displayed a ski with a very playful personality slashing and slarving all over making small little turns on the traverse over to some east side runs. Once I got the chance to really charge on this ski I was a little hesitant about dropping at speed do to the three stage rocker camber profile. Taking a few mellow turns this ski definitely inspires you to open it up and let it rip. The deathwish transferred edge to edge like a dream, more like a 100mm ski as opposed to a 112mm. I felt completely stable making super G turns without any worries of a ski tracking away from the other or any unwanted hookiness; it just held an edge and railed. This ski can be thrown sideways in the middle of a turn or switch at high speeds and maintain that same stability and control even skiing switch. I didn?t get an opportunity to take this in either the park or powder but I think this ski will excel at both exceptionally well. The deathwish is definitely a one ski quiver game changer. Believe the hype!
The perfect ski for any day.
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
These are by far one of my favorite skis. Once I saw them I knew I had to have them. The Dirty Mustache rocker is a trip to look at when the skis are base to base but I have to say it works like a dream. Whether its icy groomers or waist deep powder these puppies will do it all and leave you begging for more.
Hi there, I'm looking for a solid all...
Hi there, I'm looking for a solid all mountain ski to accompany my 4frnt CRJs and my Rossi Phantoms. I use my CRJs for any day where there's over 6" of fresh and my Rossi's on the icey days. I ski at Wolf Creek so I can usally find some pow stashes in the trees and lots of untouched at Alberta. I'm looking for a ski that I can use to hike up to all the techy areas. I also want the ski to be able to play around at the mountain late and early season. Ive been looking at the Prophet 90, Salomon Rocker 2 90, Moment PB&J, Rossi Scimitar,and the Moment Tahoe. Im a 155lbs. 6' teenager advanced skier. I want the waist width to be anywhere from 102mm to 90mm (but the deathwish sounds like a dream on the groomers and sucj with its 112mm waist) and the length anywhere from 175-182. Just trying to find the right amount of playfulness around the resort and the right amount of stability in the hike to terrain. Thanks for the advice!
Hey man I grew up skiing at Wolf Creek, so know the terrain well. After skiing there for years and up at Crested Butte during college, I would say go with a bigger ski like the Deathwish 184. WC is the perfect place for training on a bit longer and wider ski, as the snow stays pretty soft, especially hiking the knife ridges or dog chutes. The other skis you mentioned are good, but unless it hasn't snowed in weeks probably too charge heavy for wolf creek. I'm 6' 180 and ski the bibby pro's in a 190 at WC and CB and love them especially for getting into the backcountry. Moment just makes great skis.
Does anyone have any touring experience...
Does anyone have any touring experience on these? Thinking about a superversatile setup with Fritchis, I use BD skins; is there an accessory attachment piece for the front? thanks!!
Does anyone know where these skis are...
Does anyone know where these skis are mounted in relation to true center? they sound sweet but i like a more center mounted ski, and was wondering if these fit that category
It's -5 from true center. They feel a lot like a center mount in my opinion, probably because the ball of your foot is actually forward of center.
This everyday ski gets me pumped up.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
The Dirty Mustache Camber gripped the hard pack and groomers like a cat's claws dig into my forearm when I reach down to pet it. I could rail out the turns with the confidence of an ice dancer. The 112mm waist and the rockered tip and tail got me bouncing through the pow and slashing as I pleased. I get the best of both worlds when I'm on the Deathwish.
I'll ride that Mustache
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I got on this ski late march/early April at Alta and I was pleasantly surprised with how well it skiied. It does tend to track a little different than any ski I have been on but that issue went away after one run. It railed turns well and chowed thru crud like no ones business. The combo rocker camber what cha ma call it made buttering everything a blast. To put it best this is a one quiver ski for a jib type kid in a snowy playground ski resort
what size brakes should I pair with these...
what size brakes should I pair with these skis? I'd like to go with the jester's but the 130 seems too big
So the 110mm will fit with a little bending of the brake, which any shop will do or you can do it yourself with a broken pole. The 130 would be a little wide and would work but if you are leaning the skis over edge to edge there is a possibly for them to catch.
- Gender: Female
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
Spent demo day at Alta last spring trying 15+ skis and this is the one that blew the rest out of the park (or high-T, as it were). I came back a the end of the afternoon to take it for another few runs off Wildcat.
As a former racer turned powder skier, its virtually impossible for a ski to be acceptable to me on groomed snow (I expect it to behave like a race ski) and also be awesome in the steep and deep. Death Wish got high marks on both. On top of that, I think engineering innovation in skis is cool, so having a unique dirty mustache ski is definitely appealing.
For what its worth, the top sheet is pretty ugly, but perfect for putting an Alta sticker right over the creepy eye.
Dirty Mustache is amazing.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I saw this ski at SIA and was skeptical of the Dirty Mustache design (and the name, which sounds like some sort of sex trick). Got my hands on a pair in early March, though, and I was blown away. I've been all about really fat (123-140 underfoot) rockered skis for a few years and thought it would be too skinny and cambered to be enjoyable in pow. I was way wrong; it's a blast. It floats well, it's quick, and it has a huge sweet spot. The mini-camber underfoot feels a lot like zero camber, meaning it can go sideways and pivot around without hooking up. It handles pow, crud, chop, whatever. It's not stiff enough to be a big-time charger (in the 186 at least), and I wouldn't want to take it to Vermont during an ice storm, but it carves better than any full rocker or zero camber ski I have skied. I'll probably end up selling at least one pair of fatter skis to make room for it in my closet.
4 For Something New..That Works
The Dirty Mustache Rocker. So this is the name of what is ushering in the newest type of rocker/camber profile in the Moment Deathwish Ski. Interesting marketing stance.
Name aside, the 'stache has 3 cambered spots in a mostly flat waist and rockered tip and tail. Complicated? A bit. Does it work? Surprisingly, yes. The one fear you have with this sort of thing is not in the pow (it does float well), the chop and crud (handles this too) and spinning (low swing weight for its length).
You worry about the full on hard snow and whether this construction will feel too abrupt or loose in the edge grip and the answer is its in-between the two. And that, is the right answer as hard snow turns feel smooth and never forced while actually getting a turn done. The Deathwish prefers a medium radius turn and someone who isn't too strong or fast, but the new rocker shape works and opens up another whole new world for skiing.