Back and burlier than ever.
With the reliability of 13-DIN and free-heel power of an AT binding, the Marker Baron 13 EPF Ski Binding holds you nice and tight on blazing downhills and lets you step and pivot freely on the climb. This year the Baron 13 has EPF, an Extended Power Frame for greater power transmission on fat skis (over 89-millimeter waists). It also got an upgrade to a Triple-Pivot Elite toe and Inter-Pivot heel for secure lockdown when raging down gnarly, no-fall terrain. Both toe and heel absorb energy and provide elasticity to prevent early release. And of course, this big-mountain beast is light and nimble as always.
- DIN 4-13
- EPF wider platform
- Backcountry Technology climbing aid at 0, 7, 13 degrees
- Triple pivot Elite Toe
- Inter-Pivot heel
- AFD stainless steel gliding plate
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I have Dynafit touring boots because they...
I have Dynafit touring boots because they fitted me best, but I do not want a Tech binding (Dynafit binding) because I want to jump into these bindings occasionally in my Alpine boots (Lange RX 130). Which ski binding will suit me best Marker Duke, Marker baron or the Salomon Gaurdian? The touring boots have rubber sole, will this make a difference?
Know why you want them........
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I use this for escaping the resort but still being able to ski with the family. There heavy compared to the "new" tech bindings ( although ive never used them, ive had friends that have) Nonetheless there are killer bindings for a good price.
Heavy and Solid.
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
These things are great at what they do. I've toured my Barons all over the place, from deep winter to summer mountaineering, and ski them inbounds on a regular basis. As good as any alpine binding I've skied.
The obvious drawbacks is that they are heavy, and you have to take the ski off to switch modes (more annoying than it sounds at first).
Overall, good product, no surprises.
Dukes, Barons, Salomon Guardians.... I'm...
Dukes, Barons, Salomon Guardians.... I'm just getting into this end of ski sport, intermediate/advanced skier, 160lbs, 5' 5" - female... more access to front/back side resort skiing, not doing a lot of uphill skinning, more of traversing to get into some powder, too old ( not as flexible) to do Big cliffs, just want to get more powder experience, either min. hiking, cat/ heli skiing.
Are these a bit too high off of the ski ? ... skiing performance is a bigger priority, and binding safety/endurance, ease of use.... I've heard that the salomons tend to break... NOT good 1/2 way up or down in waist deep snow !
For what your main priorities are I would say that my personal preference would be the Salomon Guardians or the Marker Baron. Both have great durability, and great performance for what your trying to get into doing. The main differences between the two are going to be that the Baron you would need to take your skis off to switch between tour and alpine mode since the mechanism is under the foot. The mechanism for that on the guardian is behind the binding, so you can switch it using a pole without taking your boot out of the binding. Usually you would take your ski off to take skins off anyway, but if you want to switch on the move then the guardian is the way to go. For stand height, the baron has a 36 mm stand height compared to the 26 with the guardian. With that in mind the guardian is going to give you a lower profile and more natural downhill feel, but the difference isn't huge so it would be noticeable, but probably not something that's going to make or break the downhill performance you are looking for. Hope that helps, and if you have any other questions feel free to give us a call or use the live chat feature on our site.
One more thing to consider is that the Guardians aren't compatible with the rubber soles found on most alpine touring boots. If you're shopping for new boots, or if you already have rubber sole boots, this could be an issue.
The Guardians will actually work just fine with most touring soles, it just creates a need to adjust the toe height which you are going to want a shop to handle for you. The Marker options are the ones that won'e be compatible with a touring specific sole because of the way their friction plate works and the fact that you can't adjust the toe height. The guardians have an adjustable toe height and I use them as my daily driver with the technica bodacious boot with the tech soles.
My skis have a waist of 117cm. what size...
My skis have a waist of 117cm. what size should I buy?
The brakes that come with these are 110mm, so you would need to get wider brakes for you ski, unfortunately we are not stocking marker brakes at this time.
The sizing correlates to your boot's BSL (Boot Sole Length)
This is usually stamped on the boot close to the sole.
Small: 265 - 325mm BSL
Large: 305 - 365mm BSL
I am 215 6' intermediate + skier. I am...
I am 215 6' intermediate + skier. I am wondering if I am too big for these bindings? I am going to mount on Salomon Quest 115 188. I keep reading that people want dukes over barons, kind of confused on din ratings. I'm coming from a dynafit radical not sure about the bulky at binding.
I have these on a pair of AMPerages. I toured on them all last year and skied hard on them the rest of the year at the resort. I am 6'2" about 240 lbs. I break everything and I have not broke these bindings. They are really solid feeling and confidence inspiring. I don't really see the point of the duke unless you are doing massive cliffs. I do 6' ish ones with these all the time, with no worries. That being said, they are a little heavy to tour with!
Are there wider brakes available for...
Are there wider brakes available for these???
Yes. This binding is available in both Large and small sizes with 90mm, 110mm, and 132mm brake widths. Although at the moment we only have the 110mm in stock.
Would this same binding with the 132mm brake be listed as a different item # on Backcountry.com?
And if they never arrive in stock, will the wider brakes ever be available for separate purchase?
Duke or Baron? I'm 5'10", 195lbs & wanna...
Duke or Baron? I'm 5'10", 195lbs & wanna use these in the trees on the East coast, with occasional icey groomers when forced. Considering the Dukes, but would I be better off w/ the slightly lighter Barons? This will be my first pair of AT-ish bindings and I'll be doing more traversing/sidecountry line hunting than skinning uphill. if you take price out of the equation, would I be better to have the more rugged, higher DIN Dukes?
As you won't be doing much uphill skinning, the weight won't be an issue, and price aside I would go with the Dukes- higher DIN and a bit more burly of a binding for the more downhill-oriented skiing you will be doing.
Also as this is your first year transitioning into A/T bindings, you could consider something like the Atomic Tracker or the Salomon Guardian- they sit a bit lower on the ski and have more of a traditional ski binding feel to them, while still having the touring capabilities.
Sorry for the novel, hope this helps!
I have Garmont Cosmos boots which are tech...
I have Garmont Cosmos boots which are tech compatible, (currently use dynafit radicals) but i'm looking at getting a set of either Marker Baron's or Dukes to pair up w/ a new set of K2 Hardside's. Will my current boots fit these two and which is a better binding?
How do these stack up to a pure alpine...
How do these stack up to a pure alpine binding? I am an east coast skier. I have never actually done any hiking but hope to get into it in the next couple seasons. I'm buying a new setup this year so I'm torn on AT vs Alpine binding. I wont use the AT much at all but am willing to get a set for the rare time I hike up if I wont sacrifice much downhill performance.
These will ski similar to an alpine binding since they are made to feel that way when skiing. Most alpine bindings will sit a little lower to the ski than an AT binding so they will provide more feedback from the skis. If you are not sure if you will be hiking much I might suggest an alpine binding and for the couple times you do hike just booting it. If you plan to tour a bit and maybe you want to start touring more then this is a great binding that will both ski the resort and backcountry well. If you decide to go with an alpine binding the marker griffon will be similar to this but is more resort friendly.
I am looking at the Marker Baron 13 EPF...
I am looking at the Marker Baron 13 EPF bindings and the Salamon Guardian WTR13. How important is it that the Salamon is lower to the ski? How much stronger are they inbounds? Which works better in the backcountry? thank you!
They sit almost a full cm lower, which is helpful for balance. Personally, I am used to skiing on risers with carving and race skis, where they say you get better lean angles and can hold aggresive edging better, so a 35mm stand is nothing. Although the salomons are lower, I think the difference would be neglible to most on/off piste skiers. It will help you maintain balance, but should be solid on either.
hi ive been skiing on the 2010 baron for...
hi ive been skiing on the 2010 baron for about a year now and i love it. i bought it from my friend last year and i have used it for all alpine skiing. i was examining it and i noticed it had a little bit of play in where the track meets binding. It can slide about half a cm forward while in alpine mode(nothing too significant) . im wondering if i were to keep using this binding if it would break and whats the lifespan on a binding like this? i ski trees bumps a few smaller cliffs, hit kickers ect. as i mentioned i didnt do any hiking last year. although i hope these bindings last because i plan on doing the occasional hike this year. also if i were to change from the 2010 baron to a newer version would i have to re drill the holes in my skis? and is it bad for your skis to mount a binding like this twice (i ride the 4frnt crj). thanks!
can I mount these on a Ski with an 81 mm...
can I mount these on a Ski with an 81 mm waist? I read somewhere that Marker suggested 89mm or larger. Thank you.
The bindings are based on Marker's original 76mm platform, so you should be fine to mount these on an 81mm waist ski. The brakes might be a little wide though, which you could change out for the 90mm brakes easily enough.
Are these compatible with Dynafit AT boots?...
Are these compatible with Dynafit AT boots?
The Marker Baron is compatible with most tech fit bindings that are alpine or ski touring DIN/ISO compliant, including tech fit boots such as Dynafit. Some boots with a soft sole or abnormal shape however do not fit these bindings well (such as the Dynafit TLT5). If you need specific help about fitting your boots and bindings, give Backcountry a call at 1-800-409-4502.
Awesome, thanks Micah. I have the ZZero 4U-TF boots, so they should work.
What is the widest break you can get for...
What is the widest break you can get for these? Can I get a brake that will fit a 121mm waist? How are these compared to the Guardian WTR 13?
The widest brake that comes standard with these will be 110, but I know you can contact the Marker dealer afterwards and get a hold of a wider brake that you could make fit your121 waist. I skied on these binding last winter and they held up really well on anything from small to medium backcountry hits to the resort groomers.
The Guardian WTR 13 will give you a wider brake (115) which you may be able to bend out to fit your skis.
Hope this helps!
If you're careful, you should be able to bend 110 brakes to work. I have done this to gain ~10mm out of brakes instead of spending more money for wider ones. I also agree with Carver Shaw above about looking at the Guardian 13 too.
these bindings work with regular ski boots...
these bindings work with regular ski boots right, not just alpine touring boots? im looking to skin uphill with just my normal ski boots
Yes they will work with your alpine boots. Just be sure to adjust the toe height to make up for the lack of a lugged sole.