The world’s most innovative trad shoe designed by the world’s best trad climber.
- P3 platform for technical footwork and increased support on long pitches
- Lightly padded flat toe for stuffing into cracks
- Vibram XS Edge rubber sole for friction on the thinnest footholds
- High-top design adds protection in wide cracks
- Synthetic lining eliminates stretch
- Padded tongue for more comfort when sending the Stovelegs
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I currently wear the Nago in a 43.5 and I'd like these to fit about the same. Would you recommend I stick with the 43.5 or bump it to 43 or 44? (Do they run the same as the Nagos?) THANKS!
An agressive flat shoe!?! they are great!
They start out super super stiff but they soften up a lot. At first, you might get stuck in cracks, but eventually they'll soften up and become perfect. They provide a lot of support for long days of cranking and are great for looooong days. They're also amazing for slab. I used to be a moccs only crack climber (even for OW), but now I like these too.
I haven't found a shoe that edged better than these, while still being as comfortable as these. (My five ten anasazi blancos edge just as well, but REALLY hurt my toes after a couple of pitches). These work great in bigger cracks, giving you a stiff platform to stand on and ankle protection. They smear really well and work great on slab routes too. If you're looking for a trad shoe or something for multi-pitch, you really won't find anything better than these.
Crack climbs in my Muira's was sometimes painful. The TC's seem fine on moderate edging (5.11) even though I sized them a full size and a half bigger than my small-hold sport shoe.
Awesome shoes. I think I could have sized up half a size and gotten just as much performance though and not had to take them off after the 3rd pitch. Not necessary to get a super tight fit.
How much are these going to stretch out. I currently climb in the Katana's (size 43) and they fit great for single pitches or bouldering but I'm looking for something more comfortable for cracks and multi-pitch. I'm thinking about just going up half a size (43.5), but if they are going to stretch a lot maybe the same size. Any thoughts on the topic?
These shoes have a synthetic lining so they really won't stretch much at all. I wear a size US 10.5/EU 44 in street shoes and mountain boots; I wear size EU 43 in the TC Pros. If you're looking for standing on granite dime edges a half size down further would be advised, but if you're stuffing your feet into cracks I would keep it one EU size down from your street shoe size, no more.
Agreed. You'll see just about no stretch. Mostly because of the materials, but also because you don't want to size them quite as tight as other shoes (and having your tight foot push on and stretch the upper). They have a super stiff sole so you don't really need them as tight, plus it's nicer to have flatter toes for jamming cracks. Best trad shoe ever. Period.
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
TC Pro 42.5 - Stiff, great edging, low sensitivity. I can comfortably multipitch in these, I sized them pretty comfy right out of the box. The padding makes them awesome in cracks, but the toe profile isn't super narrow, so they do suffer a tad on ringlocks/thin hands. I love them for heel-toes in wide stuff, and they're gloriously comfortable in 2-3" cracks.
Miura 42 - Took a while to break in, but now glove-like and tight
Cobra 42 - Never got as comfy as the miura's, more pressure points, aggressively snug. Good for 1 pitch at a time.
Mythos 42.5 - Way tighter on the forefoot than i liked, got rid of them.
Nago 42.5 - Super comfortable almost immediately, soft, wide forefoot, kind of low performance.
Guide Tennie - 10.5
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I'm not a big fan of calling anything the best, but these shoes are just that. As long as they fit your feet, they will be the go-to choice for nearly everything. With the exception of sport climbing and bouldering, they're on my feet for almost every pitch. I've used them to climb thousands of feet of Yosemite granite without ever taking them off at belays, and I've used them to send ultra-tech 5.12 face climbing. Even with a comfortable fit, their stiffness lets you edge on seriously tiny features, the lining keeps them from stretching too much, and the high ankle is a life saver in the wideness. Fit is king, so look elsewhere if these don't fit. But if they do, buy them. You won't be sorry. I even went so far as to get two pairs so I can rotate them through the resole process and never be without.
I picked these for use as a comfortable all-day trad shoe that retains performance, and wasn't disappointed. In the past, I've suffered through foot pain as soon as I would hit anything slabby or with cracks. I've tried Moccs, Miuras, Evolvs, and Acopas and while they all felt fine in the gym, they killed me on trad... well, no more. With the TC Pros I not only happily stuffed my feet in cracks and smeared on features, but also felt no need to loosen my shoes at the belays or even take them off at the end of the route until I had all the rest of my gear packed up.
My feet are tad under a size 10 street shoe, and I went with a size 9.5 (42.5) wearing no socks. For reference, I wear an 8.5 (41.5) in La Sportiva Solutions/Miura VS, and a size 10 in Evolv Shamans.
I am in search of the best outdoor trad shoe. I have looked all around and have found many great edging shoes, and many great crack shoes. What I am looking for is the best of both worlds, and I have heard this is the shoe for me. Is it?
Sure is, if it fits your foot shape.
T.J. this is the shoe for you. They are incredible at edging and cracks. stiffest sole I've ever had on a shoe(amazingly they still smear pretty well too). Size a little bigger than usual so you have comfortable toes, making these great for all day multi-pitch as well as better for stuffing into cracks.
I'm just wondering if there is a tracking number for the shoes I ordered? I had expected them to arrive today.
Look on your order status at the top right. It gives a tracking number in the order details. enjoy!
I've been climbing in these for a few months now and they are a perfect trad shoe for me on granite and sandstone. My only complaint is you get rand tears and wear right where your foot cams in hand cracks. I was able to mitigate that with some seam grip on the sides to give them some more durability. I also had to replace the laces which were eventually chewed up by crack climbing. They edge really well, the rubber still looks new, and they are really comfortable (I sized them .5 above street shoe, all of my other Sportiva shoes I size down 1.5 sizes). This is the best trad shoe I have ever owned. The only technical shortcoming of these shoes is for very thin cracks which they won't fit into. For those I use Supermoccs.
Let me start off by saying that this is an excellent shoe. It grabs edges like nothing else and the stiffness is great for holding yourself in place when you need to place gear without you feet getting to tired. The thing is it isn't what I would expect from an all around shoe. it's great for cracks and edging. It's also comfortable, but the rubber is not sticky. I guess this is what makes it durable and better at edging, but I have other shoes that smear much better than this. Also, it is very overpriced. They're not worth the money especially considering the durability, which i find lacking. Right out of the box the rubber had visible joints as if it had been resoled. only a dozen days of climbing later and the rubber is beyond peeling. no problems with the bottom of the toe but considering they are designed with big wall in mind i feel like they'd only hold up to half a summer of climbing. Definitely 4 or 5 stars for performance but overall they aren't that amazing. One last note. The high top is not so great for wandering around the woods since twigs and dirt get stuck in them, but they are the best idea ever for corners and cracks.
The TC is a great shoe for 'low angle' face or crack climbing. Living in SLC I'm mainly climbing the granite in Little Cottonwood or going down to the desert, and these shoes really shine in both arenas. Going from the Muira for granite, and Moccasyms for the desert I couldn't be more stoked to have a shoe that I can take everywhere.
One important caveat is that if you take the shoes everywhere and climb a lot of crack I would seriously recommend Seam Seal on the rand of the shoe from the toes on back to the arch and equivalent on the outside of the shoe. This is for real and you should do it as soon as you buy the shoe or break it in after a few TR runs or easy days (essentially before you get a chance to delam the rand). It's simply the weird design of the rand where it overlaps itself near the ball of the foot where the delam begins, but then it will propagate in front and behind the initial delam spot. In short Seam Seal = longevity.
As far as fit and sizing I wear a 42 in Muiras, and sized up to a 42.5 for the TC's. This sizing definitely favors slabbing and crack climbing. I lose sensitivity on techy edging and steeper terrain, but that's why I still own a pair of Muiras.
All in all the TC is a amazing shoe that I could see myself wearing for a few more years or until they make something better. It's definitely the best "granite" shoe I've ever worn, and I thought the Muira would hold that title forever.
Comfortable, supportive yet still grant sensitivity, sticky. all around great epic shoe. I usually wear an 11 in casual shoes, got these in a 43.5, great fit for me.
How do these compare to the old Kaukulators for OWs?
these are far better!!
Can't really speak for how they feel on OW specifically, but after using Kaukulators my first time in Indian Creek and then using TC Pros, I feel like the TC Pros are stiffer and made my feet hurt less in those cracks..
really great shoes for big routes, all day climbing or just when you need some ankle protection