Once you try these bibs, there\222s no going back.
Giordana took the Men's topnotch FormaRed Bibs and improved them. Say hello to one hyper-advanced bib: the FormaRed Carbon Cycling Shorts. Like the original FormaReds, these FR-C bib shorts feature HC-44 fabric that's lightweight, durable, supple, and wicking. Giordana then added carbon to these shorts to reinforce the new secondary fabric, Ametista. Carbon strengthens and controls the stretch of the super-elastic Ametista as well as protects your organs and muscles from cell-phone-tower and power-line electrical interference. Also new on this body-clone short is the increased cutout area on the back bibs so as to reduce weight and increase breathability. Giordana's highest-end chamois rounds out these cycling shorts, this anatomic chamois supports and cushions while moving with you.
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Not bad on sale
First of all, if you haven't read it already, they do come a little small. I had to return the first order in the suggested size and one up it. Ended up with the 2X jersey and bib and I'm 6 ft., 220 lbs. and they still don't fit or feel as well as my LG's. I think these are more geared toward the typical cyclist body, which as you can see, I do not have. I would personally by the LG Equipe over these because they just seem to fit and feel better for me for whatever reason. I also like the chamois in the LG better. That being said, this is still a good bib and if you had a "typical" cyclist body, it may be better, but not in my case.
Fair to midland
Glad I got these on sale, I had been jonesing them for a long time since I have a pair of Giordana shorts that has my favorite chamois in them. I got them for $125 bucks. From reading other reviews I opted for a large. I'm 5'-10" and float btw. 145-150lbs. Large is the right size for me. The chamois and contour fit is great but the shoulder straps could have been longer as the upward pull in the crotch is a little uncomfortable. The bibs are great in the saddle but if standing or walking around in them, they tend to bind a little in the under carriage and also the chamois feels like it has feet on it and wants to crawl up the rear a little. The first bibs/shorts that has happened to me with about 28 years or riding.
So, great fit and the right size until I pull up the shoulder straps. I will continue to wear them, and tug on them when I walk around, a la Rafael Nadal style, if you know what I mean.
Glad to have found Real Cyclists and thanks for sponsoring a team!
worth it on sale
Of the bibs i have tried this bib performs the best hands down. I also wait till i can find them on sale which improves the value to price ratio which is worth it. Would i pay full price if i had too.... probably.
know your size.
Pricey - but great!
Saw the great review for these bibs in VeloNews, so I decided to buy a pair. I'm 6'3", 198 lbs., so I went with the XL. When I tried them on, the straps were definitely tight and not that comfortable. But I decided to take a ride with them before returning/sizing up. Wow, what a difference. On the bike, the bibs feel great - don't judge them by the fit off the bike. The straps are very comfortable and the chamois disappears beneath you. Due to the nasty winter we're having on the East Coast, I hadn't ridden outside in 5 weeks. I wore these on my first ride back on the road. While I only did 38 miles, I felt great the whole time. Gotta give a lot of the credit to the bibs!
These definitely fit tight, but one size up was good for me. I'm 6'3", tried on Large, and the straps weren't uncomfortable, but they were too tight and pulled the waist out when in the saddle. Great compression, cool fabric that seems like it will last. Can't imagine paying retail, but worth the sale price.
Best pair of bibs to date (that I have tried).
Awesome! I bought a pair of the Giordana FR-Carbon bib shorts because I liked the previous model so much. To my surprise, when I first put them on, the FR-Carbon bib shorts were not as comfortable as the previous model. Unlike the previous model, the FC-Carbon was tight at the straps (similar to Assos) and cuffs; whereas, the previous model was downright comfortable on and off of the bike. At this time, I was contemplating on returning the bib shorts, but I decided to give it a try on the bike. Thats where the FR-Carbon bib shorts excelled beyond my belief.
On the bike, the chamois felt a little more comfortable than the previous model. 30 minutes into my ride, the tightness of the straps and cuffs became unnoticeable. As I rode on, the rest of the FR-Carbon bib shorts just seemed to just disappear. Nothing was wrong with it anymore. Better yet, after over two hours on the saddle, I felt less fatigued than normal. I truly believe that the high compression material (HC44) and the attributes of the Ametista + Antigua materials were contributing factors to how great I felt after the ride.
After several more rides, I am convinced that the design and materials of the Giordana FR-Carbon bib shorts are helping me ride stronger at a higher level of comfort. I would recommend this pair of bib shorts to a friend. Better yet, I bought couple more pairs for myself and turned all of my other bib shorts (the previous FR model and my Assos FI.13) into training shorts.
I am 55 at 150 pounds with a 32-inch waist. My typical outdoor rides are between two to four hours with 80 percent of the time spent on the hoods. To date, I fit a medium for all of my bib shorts, including the FR-Carbon.
Great if a wool feeling is what you're looking for
The pad is great, the seams are rounded and
smooth. Everything on this is great except that the red material on these feels like you're wearing wool. Provided for some great
I have both the formared and formared carbon. Both are great shorts but the fit is different between them.
The formared carbon have much stiffer straps and more compression on the legs. I'm 5'3" male 125lbs and I wear a Medium in the carbon version and they fit great. The straps with the carbon are a bit scratchy though compared to the super smooth regular formared but when they get real sweaty they don't stretch out like the non-carbon does. Once I'm riding I don't notice the scrachy much.
Chamios is great for long days (4 hour rides) in the saddle, best I have tried and I ride an SLR saddle that has minimal padding.
Construction is top notch and when compared to say Castelli sewing of the chamios in I bet these will far outlast my Castelli.
The extra carbon fabric in the legs prevent the shorts from riding up + the carbon fabric is a bit scratchy and holds on better.
That said I have the regular formared which are great but I wear a small in those The medium w/o the carbon straps were baggy, go figure. The small normal formared was a bit tight in in the straps so I cut the straps down in width so they would stretch more and now they are great.
Love both...probably look for a third pair.
Do these shorts run small or just about...
Do these shorts run small or just about true to size?
Size large in the Forma Red - not carbon - Bib Short fit me. LBS said the carbon and non carbon fit the same. I am 6 feet, one half inch tall, long torso. Weigh 170.
These run small. When in doubt, size up, or order 2 and return the one that doesn't fit.
I've only tried couple other pairs of bib shorts. I own the Assos F1 Mille (long distance comfort short) and I prefer the FormaReds. The fit of the Giordanas is perfect, the material feels great and the chamois is more comfortable than the Assos (also no comparison my Pearl Izumi Ultrasensor shorts, and high-end pair of Louis Garneau shorts). They held up well all summer, many washes, many rides, baking sun and spillage of energy gels, various electrolyte drinks etc. They still look and wear like new.
The FormaRed Carbon Shorts are my favorite
The Giordana FormaRed Carbon bib shorts are great. I am 6' but long torso and I have both a medium and large pair. I would say the large is more comfortable standing, but not a lot of difference on the bike. Compression is good on the thighs, pad is great, and they don't ride up on my thighs. One pair is the white side panel color version and they really do look okay, although I was scared a little before I saw them.
I have not used Assos shorts, so I cannot compare them; however, these shorts are better than my second favorite 2XU and third favorite Pearl Izumi P.R.O.
Wonderful Bibs, but No Better than the Standard Forma Reds
After trying Castelli and Craft's top offerings, the Giordana Forma Reds are my favorite bibs to date. I picked up a pair of the top-end Carbon version on sale here on RC, and to be honest, I prefer the standard version.
Both bibs are equivalent in sizing and comfort (same chamois, same fit, etc. Just a different material), but my long torso causes the less elastic FRC straps to dig into my shoulders a bit more than I'd like. Otherwise, both shorts feel like a custom fit using a size larger than I normally wear.
Overall, these shorts sport a great length, nice compression, and superb comfort. Still, I'd suggest going with the cheaper Forma Reds to save some scrill.
You paid what?
First of all order one size up!
Second..I have yet to be convinced that they are really worth the price tag. There is a group of sewn-in tags that irritate my skin on my left hip. They could be cut out but should not be there. Assos knows how to do it.
Lastly I have ridden in these 3 times and there is a pilling of the material where the seat makes contact. I can imagine that I will have a hole there by 10 rides or so.
In a nut shell my Di Marchi bibs are two years old and still look and feel great.
Picked these guys up on sale for $162 (Realcyclist rocks!). I always told myself I would never spend more than $100 on a pair of bib shorts, so this was an impulse buy...but one I definitely don't regret. At 5'10.5"/190lb the sizing chart put me in between a large and an XL. Through a shipping mishap on Realcyclist's part (which they handled excellently), I was able to try both sizes. I fit very well into both but wound up going with the Large because I liked the slightly shorter legs.
I found it interesting that I really had a hard time telling the difference between the two sizes in terms of snugness. With other brands, I feel a noticeable difference between sizes in terms of snugness and compression. With these bibs it seems the fabric adjusts to the body with just the right amount of compression to feel comfortably snug without feeling too tight. I'm not sure I would have been able to identify the difference between the two sizes without the longer legs/straps.
Overall, I would say these bibs are the best bibs I have worn. They have quickly become my A-1 pair in my rotation and I find myself reluctantly forcing myself to rotate my other bibs now. I can't say that these bibs have revolutionized my cycling experience (or made me any faster, unfortunately) but I can say that they are very well constructed, solid and comfortable. Combine that with the fact that Giordana warranties these for 2 years and I can feel a little better about the high price tag, though I'm still embarrassed to tell people how much I spent on these guys.
Just got in 2 big rides on these FR-C bibs Very Nice!
I went from a specialized Pro Bib Large and Bought these FR-C in white and black size 2xl. They run small so two size up did the trick for me. They fit great and feel very thin on the body. The padding is great no problems if your butt still hurts with these bib shorts then you need more seat time or take up golf.
Giordana FormaRed Carbon Bib Cycling Short - my personal experience
I read the other reviews of these and the PI PRO Octane shorts as well before ordering one of each. Everyone is somewhat different anatomically so your own experience will likely differ from mine. These Giordana shorts are certainly functional and that may be all one can hope for when it comes to biking attire. They didn't give me a totally different level of biking comfort as I thought they might at this price point. Was not disenchanted enough with them to return them to RealCyclist but a reorder is out of the question. On to the next more comfortable clothing adventure!
Stats: multiple rides > 50 miles each with last 78 miles
rider wt. 176 lbs, age 52 yrs
hardware: Orbea Zeus riding on American Classic 420 wheels and kevlar tires
terrain: Blue Ridge Parkway, Skyline Drive tar and gravel road surface
Giodana FormaRed Carbon Bib Shorts
Very well made, Run on the small size, so order up one full size.
Pad is okay very similar to Pearl Izumi Pro Pad. Save some serious money and by Pearl Izumi Pro Bib Shorts .
I am an Assos man, once you wear Assos Bib Shorts you just won't find a better pair. They are expensive but are really worth every penny you spend.
The FormaRed Carbon bib shorts provide excellent leg compression. These are all day shorts, whether all day is a 1 to 2 hour ramble about town or a real 18 hour day. The straps on the carbon are not as comliant as the straps on the FormaRed, but the compression and overall fell are better. The tags are a bit annoying.