The Onyx is ready. Are you?
- Ability to go from tour mode to ski mode without removing boot from binding
- Mounting plate system means toe and heel attach to separate mounting plates, so you get plenty of adjustment and can maintain boot-center on the ski
- Multiple heel options are reliable and super-easy to engage with pole-basket
- High-strength, forged aluminum components for a stiff, rigid connection between boot and binding as well as binding and ski
- Releasable with both forward-falling and lateral-twist settings
- Serviceable binding for fixing in the field or getting parts replaced (serviceable with #1 Phillips, #3 posidrive, and torques T10, not included)
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Durable Onyx Gem
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Went touring with a good pal o mine last week in Tahoe before the resorts opened up. Here's what he had to report on the Onyx binding:
" I know isn't quite a Dynafit, I have put probably close to 100,000' vert on it with almost no issue. I like the way they ski, AND whats really cool is they mount on plates so I have two pairs of skis with plates mounted on them, and I can move the bindings back and forth depending on the conditions/type of skiing I'm looking at for that day. They are also quite affordable as tech bindings go."
So is his dog.
What changes have they made to this binding...
What changes have they made to this binding to qualify the statement in the description, revamped.
I am seriously considering these bindings but would like to know more about the 2014 model and what they did to improve them and make them lighter.
No changes have been made to the Onyx/Ruby for the 13/14 season.
Bolt pattern on G3 Onyx binding?
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
In other reviews I kept reading about the narrow bolt pattern in the toe of the binding. Has G3 updated this?
Have we seen installation changes from 2011 to 2013?
To better explain what I mean, I have copied that review:
Although the binding is good for DIN 12, their bolt pattern is far too narrow which puts tremendous torque on the toe bolts. Both of us ripped our bindings out of our skis within 1 week, destroying our new skis.
I read something in a WildSnow preview...
I read something in a WildSnow preview that the G3 Onyx had a base 'plate' mounting system for swapping with different skis? Is this still the case? If so, is the base plate purchased separately?
Yes and Yes. The base plates are sold separately and retail for about $70. You get the pair that comes with the binding and then will need to purchase a pair for each other pair of skis you want to mount the binding on. I have one binding that I swap between multiple skis depending on conditions. It takes about 5 minutes to make the swap and is fairly straightforward.
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
After looking into different tech bindings I finally went with these. And couldn't be happier. They are amazing on the uphill. I love the pole activated heel risers. And when it comes time to ski... These babies are super solid. I'm 6'6" and 180 pounds and I ski hard. I have snapped skis and broken bindings. Two seasons and these bindings are still like new. These things can drive big skis, I'm talking 191cm long 120mm underfoot, no problem. Maching through chunder and never pre-released. They are a bit heavy, but totally worth it for the confidence they inspire when you're skiing or hucking. I am way stoked on these bindings. And I reccomend them to everyone.
just go with dynafit
I need to be honest, just go with dynafit. I had these, 2 pairs of onyx and both pairs failed. the design seems to be well thought out and DOES switch between tour and ski, which is a great feature for crossing over flats and kicking your way out of places but other than that, they just have too many moving parts to be viable for any real longterm BC use. I never poped out nor did i insta tele but i bought a pair of radical speeds and the radical ft and and could not be happier that I made the move to dynafits.
2 years and still going strong, inbounds and out of bounds.
Anyone know if these have the same/similar...
Anyone know if these have the same/similar ramp angle to Dynafits?
The Onyx is 26mm stack at the toe and 30mm at the heel for a 4mm ramp. Dynafits are 20mm toe stack and 30mm heel for a 10mm ramp.
A lot of people trash these bindings for being made out of plastic. Well, my AT rig fell off the top of my car at 50 mph, and the bindings weren't even scratched. They are also awesome on the downhill, and even though they weigh more than other tech bindings you don't notice because you don't lift your skis when you tour.
What information on the binding will...
What information on the binding will identify the "model year".
HI Barb, the only way to know for sure is to contact G3 and give them the serial number on your binding. S/N can be found underneath the Toe and heel pieces if you take them off of the mounting plates. There are some indiators if you do not own a binding yet. The Onyx was initally launched with a whitish/grey heel lifters which later turned to Black/Grey as they are now. Other changes have been the addition of the rubberized section of the toe that you depress with your pole (11/12) as well as the change of color to the mode change lever on your heel from black to red.
How do I size these bindings? I'm skiing...
How do I size these bindings? I'm skiing in a size 10.5/11 Scarpa Laser boot, and mounting them on 176cm skis.
The size refers to the width of the breaks. How fat are your skis?
is there anykind of disadvantage to using...
is there anykind of disadvantage to using a dynafit boot in comparison to other boots with this binding?
found the answer to my own question: no. but i would like to give a shout out to the Backcountry.com crew for being amazingly helpful as always. you all rock!
do these bindings work with normal boots
do these bindings work with normal boots
No, these are for boots with dynafit tech-fittings
Is this upgraded version screw hole...
Is this upgraded version screw hole compatible with the previous version?
Yes. Same hole pattern.
Are these made with just aluminum or is...
Are these made with just aluminum or is there plastic components in the binding? Worried about longevity do to torsional stress and uv degradation over time.
Planning to hit the tanning salon with your skis on?
The bindings are made of aluminum and fiber-reinforced plastic. Most FRP is UV-stabilized. Given the fact that most bindings are retired not because the plastic is dead, but because the springs have worn out, I really don't think you have anything to worry about.
Have the heel riser and other durability...
Have the heel riser and other durability issues with the heel been addressed?
What is the weight savings of the new model over the old?
Has the ski brake been fixed and does it have an AFD?
I really like the idea of this binding and it's adjustability for multiple users, especially compared to the 12.5mm range of the new Dynafit Radicals.
Heel riser issue was fixed. The pins on which the risers rotate now have heads on them.
No weight savings between winter 10/11 and winter 11/12 (no penalty either).
Brake was fixed in winter 2010. Brake does not have a sliding AFD.
G3 Onyx has 33mm of adjustment. But the Dynafit Radical actually has 25mm of adjustment (12.5mm each direction).
How would these do as an 80/20 inbounds/...
How would these do as an 80/20 inbounds/backcountry binding? There will be moguls and hardpack. I'm a pretty good skier, but I can't charge hard all the time. I'd be mounting them on '11 Moment Rubies and I'm 6' and about 185. I really don't like the Duke's release mechanism (or lack thereof). Montana Snowbowl in Missoula can get just about every possible snow condition in 2500'
Tech system bindings (G3, Dynafit, etc.) all have great DH performance as you are truly locked into the ski. The one drawback for hardpack and bumps is that they have zero elasticity (the ability of the boot to move off center in the binding and then come back without releasing). That said, I would rather have the better skiing and lighter weight of these bindings than any other backcountry system. They ski better and tour better.
Dukes have a much safer and more reliable release/retention mechanism than any tech binding. That's the whole point of hiking around with more than three times the weight of a tech binding. I'm not saying you shouldn't switch to a tech binding, just that your Dukes are a lot safer and more reliable than anything else out there.
They are OK as an inbound binding. Somewhat less elasticity than dukes or freerides, but they also give a way more rigid ski connection.
These bindings were designed with retention in mind and with the expection of the Dynafit Beast are the most inbounds capable tech binding.
I am sold on the power these tech bindings have in regards to downhill performance.
what's the difference between the 2011 and...
what's the difference between the 2011 and the 2012? Does it worth the difference price wise?
The current version has some nice tweaks. Larger toe pin screws for a beefier attachment. Toe pins now have ice-cutters built in. The spot on the toe lever for your pole is softer plastic for easier use. Your call on if it's worth the price.
You should note G3 will update older models with the new larger pins for free.