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Ski the best line every time.

Dominating deep, delicious pow is what you're all about when you clip into the Blizzard Cochise Ski. Thanks to its rockered tip and tail and flat camber underfoot, you're able to make high-speed, effortless arcs that all end in fluffy faceshots. Plus the ski's Flipcore natural rocker technology ensures that you're able to kill it from storm days on through to sketchy spring descents.

  • Rockered tip and tail with flat camber underfoot allows you to slash big pow turns, bust through crud, and lay hard groomer lines
  • CNC 3D-Bamboo Isocore woodcore creates a smooth, consistent flex pattern and gives you a lightweight, durable ski
  • Flipcore 3D technology features a flipped wood core which offers smooth handling, stability, increased edge-to-edge quickness, and a floating effect thanks to its natural rocker
  • Sandwich sidewall construction provides bombproof durability, awesome power, and superb inbound performance
  • 108mm waist enables you to ski a variety of conditions and excels in deep powder or soft snow

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I am 5'9" 175 lbs and torn on size. 177...

Anonymous

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I am 5'9" 175 lbs and torn on size. 177 or 185? I am an expert living on the east coast, skiing the whole mountain, including trees and bumps, ski fast, and will use this ski for 1-2 trips out west each year. I have been on 180cm Black Diamond Verdicts the last few seasons.

vanhanbr2012

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I am 5'9" 155. Demoed both sizes. I didn't have a problem skiing the 185. If I was skiing groomers all day, I would prefer the 177 just because it is easier to handle (almost effortless.) But whats the point of skiing a 108 waist ski on the groomers all day? I found the 185 is a little awkward until up to speed and then it's a blast. I would not want the ski to be any stiffer, but I prefer park orientated skis. Go with the 185 and mount 1-2 cm in front of the line.

Jamie Preston

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At your height, weight and ability, I don't think you can go wrong at either size, but if you are skiing a lot of eastern skis, you might opt for a 177. The ski is super stable, you are not going to have an issue there. Also, in bumps, 177 better choice.

i am 165 pounds and 6 foot tall, i ski in...

isaac

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i am 165 pounds and 6 foot tall, i ski in New Zealand where the conditions are usually harder snow, with powder days being few and far between, but i want a ski for a slack country set up . so i want a ski that can handle the powder days but excel at ripping through the crud and hold a good edge on the ice. i am looking at the 185 cochise and the 183 atomic ritual, i ski hard and fast and make big long turns, but i also want something that can turn to precision when in trees and chutes. and i definitely don't want a ski that shakes me off when i'm straight lining a face over crud. i am unsure whether the ritual or cochise will be better suit me, any advice ? does the extra 5 mm under foot in the cochise affect edge transfer much ? and the effectiveness of it in the crud ? compared to the 103 mm under foot of the atomic ritual ?
overall which will perform better in crud ?
which will be better for groomers? ( i don't do these much)
which will be better for powder? and how much better? and why?
and which will be better for charging ?

any other advise would be very helpful or any other skis :)
thankss!!!

c.brown

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Crud: Cochise
Groomers : Ritual ( at slow speeds) Cochise (at high speeds)
Powder: Toss up, neither are awesome. Cochise is slightly wider
Charging: Cochise, not even close.

Jamie Preston

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Mr. Brown knows what he is talking about, heed his words.

hanp532462

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Isaac,
Go for the Cochise!
I got these skis in the USA this year specifically for NZ crud (ski Ohau and cardies).
Im 157cm (5.1) and 55kg (121pounds)
I took a few skis out before I chose these ones, I got them set with the RMK 180 bindings got them in a 170cm, but next time would go longer for a 177cm.
I was pretty stoked how they handled backcountry in the powder and trees. On the groomers charging it they are fun. And because they are a bit heavier where your at speed found them super stable.
But if you want a ski for more groomed runs and a bit of crud I would go for the Volkl RMT 84, these are the next ski I will buy, they are like a racing ski so responsive and powerful! Short turns are a dream.

But for NZ snow the Cochise are perfect!

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Cranky

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Found the 193's to be amazing all around. Yes,they like fast, but can turn surprisingly tight and quick when needed. Rail the firm groomers too.

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sco139173232

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I have about 40 days on the Cochise in conditions ranging from ice to blower pow.They rail on groomers and make will make a variety of turn shapes depending on how hard you drive the ski. They also ski bumps suprisingly well for a ski thats 108 in the waist.As you would assume, they float pow very well,cut through chop with stability once the mountain gets tracked and are sufficient for all but the deepest days. I have trackers mounted on them which makes for a heavy touring rig, but in all, they are as a adverstised.You wont be disappointed.

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whi3063951

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Yes- this ski is totally awesome. Was on it today in soft snow conditions, fresh powder and deeply cut powder. It excelled everywhere- the positive reviews which pervade the internet seem true. My only possibly novel offering is to add is that, if you are a BIG BOY (or girl), do NOT be afraid of going with the 185. I am 6'4", probably 230lbs dressed to ski, and the 185's rocked my face off-- stable, chargy, floaty, but turn instantly if desired. Highly responsive; could be driven as hard as I felt like pushing them-- short radius or long turns as well. They gripped like a sportscar, and I was in disbelief of how well / quickly they turned.

Bottom line-- you can still have an awesome time on the 185's if you are north of 2 bills on the scale.

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Cory Akin

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this is a great ski, a lot different than what I was on previous to riding it (Armada JJ's, Black Diamond Megawatts, both of which are poppier, less damp), but a great ski.
I'm very impressed by it's strength- it's damp, holds an arc really well, and can absorb bumps if you let it. I also found that it floats very nicely and is quick in untouched snow.
Hoping to get more days on it soon

A Chan

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Hi Cory, I currently have Armada JJ's 185. How do you like the Cochise compared to JJ's? Do the Cochise have less vibration on flat groomers than the JJ's? I can't decide between 185 or 193's. Thanks!

Cory Akin

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Hey "A Chan." The Cochise is lot more damp than the JJ. It will have less vibration on flat groomers. The JJ feels a lot more playful and poppy, whereas the Cochise likes to plow through what it encounters. If you are on the 185 JJ, go with the 185 Cochise. I have a buddy who has ridden the 193, and it's a beast. The 185 is a great combo of stability and finesse.

Cory Akin

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Also, keep in mind that the JJ has quite a bit of tip and tail rocker. The Cochise has tip rocker, with a very small amount of tail rocker, but it's a low profile rocker, meaning it won't ski short the way a JJ skis short

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saxdaniel1801211

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I bought the Cochise a few weeks back. I am an expert skier that is 5'9", 170lbs. I bought these to replace a pair of Movement Trusts that I returned after skiing on them for a year. I was looking for something larger than my 177 Mantras, and with some rocker. This was my first time skiing reverse camber, but with Blizzard's Flipcore technology, these things are rock solid. I only had the chance to ski them in skied out/packped pow/groomed conditions at Squaw so far but they held up great. They are extremely versatile, easy to maneuver, and unwaivering at speed. I definitely wanted a pair of skis with Titanal in them, and the Cochise do not dissapoint. If you ski hard, and want to charge all over the mountain, then these skis are a damn solid bet. There is no substitute for metal in the ski. I'm not a big guy, nor am I in great shape, but I was able to crush it in the 185cm no worries. First pair of Blizzard's and I'm considering picking up a pair of Bushwacker's for those marginal days. Stoked!

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Kait

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The Cochise are decent all mountain skis that are pretty good at everything, but not amazing at anything. They feel pretty narrow for a 108 underfoot ski and turn easily, but they don't hook in and initiate the turn very well due to the rocker profile. You end up just pushing the skis around. Since they don't have camber underfoot they are not very playful. Even though they are solid under foot, at speed the rocker tip chatters. They float well in soft snow are solid on landings but again aren't very playful. Overall a decent ski, but if you're a skier that can carve and likes a playful ski, this may not be your best choice.

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Sean S.

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I'm 6'1 and 185lbs and I ski in Idaho. I love these skis, they are great in the powder. They flex and jump out of the snow making every turn effortless. At the resort they want to be pushed but they are super stable. Thus far I couldn't be happier, by far the best ski I have ever owned. I'll update if my opinion changes.

A Chan

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What length are you using? I'm 5'11", 180#, and thinking of getting the 193's. Not sure if that will be too long much?

I'm 5'9 152 lb Int/Adv skier starting to...

aja4632812

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I'm 5'9 152 lb Int/Adv skier starting to ski side country, stuff , trees. Want a nimble floater that does short turns , bumps well too i ski the Line Prophet Flite. Im looking at the Coshise/ bonafide, dynastar cham 97/108 which .

What size should i be looking? or do u have another suggestion for my body type and skiing style ?

I'm 5'9 152 lb Int/Adv skier starting to...
c.brown

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What size are your Flites? Bonafides will be more nimble and easier to use in bumps than the Cochise. Cochise will be much better when there's more snow on the ground. If you're looking to get into sidecountry and want a little lighter ski you should look at the Kabookie. It's the Bonafide without any metal. They're not overly light but the construction and feel will be closer to your Lines which you like. You could go with either a 173 or a 180 in the Bonafide/Kabookie. I would go 177 if you chose Cochise. The Chams will be much heavier/stiffer than the Blizzards. If you want a Dynastar check out their High Mountain options. Much better for someone your size.

aja4632812

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my flites are 168. I appreciate the overview... I'll look into the Kabooki's as well. That helps!

aja4632812

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How about the line francis bacon ! what size would you recommend

Im 6foot 240 pounds and an athletic guy...

Ryan

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Im 6foot 240 pounds and an athletic guy (rugby player) Im looking for an all around ski that i can play with on groomers but then kick it up a notch and hit the bumps and trees. How are these off trail? I usually find a way to miss the awesome powder days every year so daily powder runs tend to not be in stock for me. Thanks in advance

Wally Phillips

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Hey Ryan,

Thanks for your question. You're definitely looking at a good option in the Blizzard Cochise Ski as it'll handle the conditions you want to throw at it (and more), but I wouldn't say that it would "play around" on the groomed. This is more of a point 'em down the hill ski than something you would play on, but at your height/weight, you could push that 185cm size around pretty well. Shame about missing those powder days, but if you do hit them I found that the rocker amount is just right for most times except the SUPER deep.

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Ryan

193s will be better at speed and will float better especially for your size. But since you don't get to hit the freshies all that often the 185s will be a lot more playful and easier to use in the bumps and trees. I'm about 215 without gear and have skied the 185 a bunch. It's really easy to ski and the only time I really wanted more ski was in deeper snow and at really high speeds. If you sit back the Cochise can feel a little beefy but if you're centered or a little forward the low tail rocker will release and the ski will turn on a dime and pivot with ease.

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Ed Broomby

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Amazing ski - used in Japan on groomers, ice, crud and deep pow. These skis want to charge hard and fast, and do require a bit of muscle to control initially, but once tamed, are incredibly versatile and fun. Very agile through tight trees, great flotation for the width, require a little work edge to edge, but once there, they hold and carve with great stability and predictability. Love em.

I was once a good skier. Kids and time off...

Rene'

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I was once a good skier. Kids and time off the mountain I know I'm not the same as "I once was".
I'm 185lbs., 5'9". I used to ski Bumps, Steep Mountain, and loved the jumps.
Don't think I will be doing the jumps anymore, but hope to do steep and bumps where I can find them still.
I'm 49 years old, but still in very good shape.
West Coast Skiier. Favorite runs would be Olympic Lady and Red Dog at Squaw, although I've heard they tamed Red Dog :-(

I used to ski Dynastar Religiously.
190 - 200 cm, Slalom Ski, Normally the 1st or 2nd lightest skis made.
Old school skis, not the new technology.

I'm looking at:
http://freeskier.com/gear/products/blizzard-bonafide-ski
Lots of recommendations, "fun and you?ve got yourself a hell of a do-it-all ski"

http://freeskier.com/gear/products/blizzard-cochise-skis
This might be the ski after reading a lot of reviews.

Your thoughts on skis and length for me would be very appreciated.
Thanks,

c.brown

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Rene. You'd be hard pressed to find many Bonafides left, they're sold out at a lot of places. So you're coming off of 190-200cm skis? If that's the case I would recommend the 185 Cochise. You're borderline between sizes but since you're coming off longer skis I would recommend the 185 over the 177. There are quite a few people rocking the Cochise at Squaw these days. They'll probably take a little getting used to as they are 108mm under foot and you're coming of of something that's 68mm but once you get the hang of it you'll be psyched.

David F

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Rene, I am same height and 175 lbs. Skied 205 Volkls back in the day, was on Scott Aztecs for the past 9 years, and just spent a week at Snowbird on a new set of Bonafides 180. They handled the hard pack with ease and never had a case of the speed wobbles when ripping down the hill. Very easy to throw around in the moguls, and blasted through the crud. The rocker makes it easy to pivot 180 in very tight spots. If you see plenty of powder then go for the Cochise, otherwise I would recommend the Bonafide (if you can find it). It will serve you well in all conditions, will work in the powder with good technique, and fits the one quiver option well. I am typically locked into Xmas and spring break ski trips due to kids in school and have to deal with whatever snow is available at the resort we are at. The Bonafide is a perfect fit for the job.

Actual running length of the ski?

I'm...

whi3063951

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Actual running length of the ski?

I'm 6'4", around 220lbs dressed to ski, and C.Brown gave me what I think was pretty solid advice last year, that I should without a doubt get the 193 and not think twice. That's probably what's going to happen, but I am still curious about the actual running lengths of the 185 vs. 193? I imagine they're somewhere in the 170's.... does anyone know?

Ben

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I dont know what the running length is but you should without a doubt get the 193. I am 5'11 and 175lbs and I ski the 193 and I love it, it is an absolute freight train and at your size you will have no problem with it at all. Pull the trigger!

whi3063951

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Hi Ben-- thanks for the reply-- my concern is that the 193 is 'only' a freight train and not much else-- I love hauling ass down the mountain as much as the next guy, but a little finesse and quick turn initiation also contribute to the fun-factor-- are the 193's at least somewhat quick / responsive? Thanks-- Jonathan

I'm 5'9" 185 pounds, solid aggressive...

lorp254228

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I'm 5'9" 185 pounds, solid aggressive skier. I am looking at the cochise for an all mountain ski around alta and snowbird but also getting in the trees around utah resorts. Trying to decide between the 175 or 185. Currently skiing on a pair of 5 yo Elan 777, 176cm. Also, any recs on bindings for this ski?

c.brown

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If you're coming off a 177cm ski and like the way it skis I would probably recommend staying around that length especially as the 777 is quite a bit narrower under foot than the Cochise (77 vs 108). The 185 might feel a little to sluggish at first. If you were coming off something wider and longer I would probably recommend the 185 just based on your height, weight, and that you're skiing Alta/Snowbird.

I'm 6'1" 195 pounds--former ski patrol and...

petp239203

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I'm 6'1" 195 pounds--former ski patrol and race coach. Trying to figure out whether the Blizzard Cochise or Bonafide would be a better all around ski for me. One poster mentioned the Cochise being better for all mountain leaning towards powder (which is my skiing preference), as opposed to the Bonafide being better for all mountain leaning towards groomers. Any further thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks! And I'm thinking about getting the longest length they make given my height/weight/skiing ability?

c.brown

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Yeah everything you read is correct. Bonafide would be better all mountain ski if you spent more time on groomers, Cochise if you spend more time off trail and want a little more powder performance. If you have a race background you'll love how the Cochise carve, especially for a 108 wasted ski. They feel like GS skis on edge but when skied bases down they're real easy to pivot and throw sideways. I would say at your height and weight the 193 Cochise should be no problem. It will be a little less maneuverable in tight spaces but will be more stable at speed and provide you with better float.

petp239203

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c.brown, thanks! I'm wondering if the next size down would be better as I do enjoy the trees and bumps!

c.brown

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yeah the 185 would be better in trees and bumps. For people in between the 185 and 193 I think by mounting the 185 back 1.5cm it helps the 185 to ski a little longer when you need it to.

I'm tall (6'3") but not heavy--175 lbs....

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I'm tall (6'3") but not heavy--175 lbs. Solid advanced skier but I don't qualify as a charging Expert. Am I going to have a little too much ski w/ the 193 ?

I'm tall (6'3") but not heavy--175 lbs....
c.brown

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I would recommend the 185 for you. What are the sizes of the other skis you own? At your weight and self described non charger the 193 might be a little too much ski. If you go 185 you could also mount it 1.5cm back to make it ski just a touch longer.

otip97148

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Thanks! It's sort of what I thought. I've skied/owned and really liked 188 s7s, 185 Scott Dozers, 184 Mantras and Line 105s around that length too. Was just wondering about going a little longer but I think for this ski the 185 would be better. Good tip on the mount point. Thanks for mentioning.

i'm 6' tall and 250, (big boy) i'm also a...

Joseph

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i'm 6' tall and 250, (big boy) i'm also a professional ski instructor so i know how to handle a ski, I am looking at the cochise for charging around alta and snowbird but also getting in the trees around utah resorts. My question is, will the 185 still charge in open areas while giving me manuverability in the trees or should i go with the 193?

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Joseph - yes, the 185 will still charge. However, you should ask yourself how much time you're going to spend in the cirque, on Baldy, in Mineral, Devil's Castle, etc. For those wide open, steep festivals of fun, I think you'll appreciate the additional stability offered by the 193 at your weight and skill level. I prefer the 185 but I'm only 180 lbs, 5'11". If I was much bigger I'd size up. Hope this helps! Great ski in either size for sure.

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I have yet to ski the 193 but at 6'2" 215 the 185 was great at slower speeds and on groomers but in wind affected snow or at speed I wanted the 193. The skis are really easy to use which in my opinion lets you ski a longer length. I would recommend the 193 based on your size.

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