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Best used for canyoneering & rapping
This is not my first choice belaying a climber and even less for when I'm leading but this is perfect for rapping. The reason for this is the fact that there is less friction causing it to not heat up as much as an ATC.
figure 8s are rad. that was your atc back in the day, and it still works great today. it makes fora super smooth rappel because there is less friction in the system than with an atc. there's also no variable friction like the teeth on an atc. on the flip side, that should mean less wear on your rope, though probably a nominal difference.
bottom line: it works as a belay device, but shines as a rappel device. if you rap a lot, you might look into it. it you're just cragging or multi-pitching, it'll mostly just add weight.
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I'm not a huge fan of this device. First of all, the non-round stock adds quite a bit of friction when rapelling, too much for me, at least when double line rapelling. I weigh 165, so it's not like I'm too lightweight, but the shape of the loops and the cross section of the loops just add too much friction for me to comfortably control my rappel. I don't use a figure 8 for belay when climbing, but I can see the added friction as an advantage if you did.
It does look good, and it's small and lightweight, which is nice, I just keep it on my harness just in case, and it's not hard to justify.
Smaller than they look
This seemed to only work with 3mm cord, and it barely fit Barbie!
For those who are unaware, this is a joke.
Basic figure 8 device
Basic figure 8 device. The rope feeds smoothly but but it doesn't give as controlled of a descent as an ATC device. No complaints though...
I had always seen the figure 8 rappel devices, but I never had a chance to use one. A few months ago I decided to purchase Black Diamonds Super 8 and test it out, and now I am sold on them. This device provides such a smooth rappelling experience, and also creates an amazing amount of friction. I was a little surprised at how quickly the aluminum heated up, but that is only a minor problem. Overall, this will be my go to device in the future.
Rappel Bd 8
One thing that might be really nice is to...
One thing that might be really nice is to show how a rope goes through a figure eight belay device. just a large photo of a figure 8 and then show the line coming down from the top of the rock going through and around the figure 8 and then out the bottom and showing the tag end going to the bottom of the rock.
Also the quick and easy way to hook into the figure 8 with a rope. show a single line starting at the top then the device bext to the line. then how you hook to your harness and the rope and the device to get them to all work together and the way it actually works and why. You might get some total beginner to give some thought to joining in. dray.
It's not a good idea for a total beginner to learn how to use a figure-8 belay device via a diagram or photo. That sort of lesson should be hands-on with an experienced climber who can double check everything.
If anyone reading this is a novice climber and is considering purchasing a figure-8 as a first belay device, please, please, please, get someone to show you exactly how to use it. Take a lesson at a gym or via a local club. Safety is paramount.
Is this sold in a pk of 4qty
Is this sold in a pk of 4qty
Hello Anthea, no this is for a single rappel device. The picture is to show the colors available.
Best device I've used for a single line descent.They instill confidence. Pic is of a first timer.
Being military and using this frequently, i'd trust nothing better than a figure 8. Used it for a while and have com across nothing better for rappelling.
Black Diamond Super 8
I still use a Black Diamond Super 8 from time to time. Its a good tool in your tool box to have. You can get enough friction by adding extra biners or rigging, ie vertaco. To undue a twist use your cows tail with a binner in-between both strands. I do think this is a good device for canyoning.
Great Little 8!
I bought one of these a few years ago to add to my collection of rappel devices for when I take people rappelling. The only complaint I have is that it gets hot pretty quick for aluminum. My really old KONG 8 hardly gets hot at all so I was a little disappointing in this 8, but over all it's a good little device.
If you are looking for a rappel device for canyoneering, stay away from 8's! They twist the rope and make it hard for the next person to rappel. I would recommend the Wild Country VC Pro II ATC for pretty much everything!
you'll never need another
once u have one... you will prolly never need another. i mostly sport and trad climb... I have used my 8 a couple times with no real issues. BD makes and excellent product that performs as expected.
Good backup to an ATC
Handles repelling well, especially when it comes to heavier loads. These do tend to add twists to your rope and I wouldn't suggest as a general belay device- Good backup to an ATC!
This is a great tool in a climber's quiver, read the instructions and know how to use it as there are multiple ways that it is used depending upon the application. It definately kinks and binds more than an ATC would.
Great Rappel Device
This is a great device in my opinion. I've always been happy with the performance off of these. I personally own two of these. One I keep with my climbing gear for rappels and the other I keep with my Ski Patrol pack for any rescues or self evacs from broken lifts. The Super 8 has always performed well when I need it to and you can't beat the price either for a backup device.I notice that some people are complaining that the device is too warm, too fast, not good for belaying, or kinks the rope. I personally am a bigger guy and don't particularly notice it being to fast but I also like to go fast anyways. For the other complaints, those are inherent to 8s so I don't know why they are complaining. If you didn't want it to get so warm or to be better for belaying you would have/should have gone with an actual belay device. The 8 works well for what it was designed to do.
It Works But ...
BD's website say's the strength is 15kN. I would look into an 8 from Omega Pacific or BlueWater. OP's 8 is 35kN with a weight of 105g. I can sacrifice an 18g difference for 20kN of strength.
Black Diamond Super 8 Belay/Rappel Device
This thing works great once you get used to it. If you're using one to rappel for the first time, be prepared for it to be a lot faster than rappelling through an ATC. Kinda surprised me the first time, which isn't always the best feeling when you're hanging off a 100ft cliff.
But now I love it.
These are by far my favorite figure 8's to use. The clip in hole just seems to be the perfect size for my carabiners unlike some that I have bought and just dont seem to fit right or you have to angle the biner just right to hook in.