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The Black Diamond AvaLung II is one of the most important developments in avalanche safety since the avalanche beacon. It should be a part of every backcountry traveler's tools. Use it in conjunction with a shovel, probe, transceiver, and experienced and capable companions to increase your chances of survival should you be caught in an avalanche. The Black Diamond AvaLung is designed for backcountry powder skiing & snowboarding, alpinism, and snowmobiling. The AvaLung is a simple filtration device which draws air directly from the snow pack. Even dense avalanche debris consists of approximately 50% air. The AvaLung membrane increases the surface area from which you breathe, making it possible to pull this air from the snow. You breathe in and out through the tube. The patented system within the AvaLung separates the O2 from the exhaled CO2, which is directed away from the air intake and out the back of the vest to diffuse through the snow pack. At the on snow demo last season, we watched them bury a guy in the snow for over an hour. When they dug him up, he was a little cold but otherwise fine (they even tested the CO2 levels in his blood). While we think that the AvaLung is a great innovation, we recognize that it does have its shortcomings. While tumbling in a slide, you might well lose your bite on the mouthpiece--or you may not even have had a chance to bite it. However, we feel that this device can increase your chances of survival. It's another great tool in your quiver. Get the Avalung II size that corresponds with your T-shirt size. They are highly adjustable.

Bottom Line: Breathe easy in the backcountry.

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By: Backcountry.com Sponsored Athlete
April 1, 2009

The avalung is a great tool to help increase your chances of survival if caught in a avalanche. however, it should not be involved in a decisions making situation,ie; "well, this snow pack looks sketchy but Ive got my avalung so.. lets go". building it into the pack is a great way to decrease this impulse.
Unfortunately BD will not license the lung to other pack manufactures, or sell a version that could be attached to a existing backpack in an effort to direct consumers to buy their pack. Good marketing, but It would be a better gift to the backcountry community to offer it in multiple ways.
It is another great tool to have in the mountains and is a great innovation.

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November 14, 2011

So, question here, In the event you are caught in a slide... Do you really want to live longer? If I were bieng thrown through trees and off of cliffs. I'm not quite sue I want to live longer. I think this is a very useful tool if you have buddies that can get you out in time but, maybe an airbag pack is more useful.

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September 5, 2011

I wear mine under my pack. It's fine.

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August 29, 2011

BD makes some great packs, but the stand alone is the better option. I have three different packs. One for sidecountry stuff, one for day tours, one for extended tours. If I were to buy a BD pack with an avalung for each of those scenarios, I would be spending about $300 to $400 more. If you buy the standalone you can use it with each pack and save quite a bit of money. Plus there are many instances where you take your pack off (to rest, to eat, to film, to shoot pics, etc.). If the avalung is part of the pack, and a slide happens, you don't have the avalung on anymore. If you buy the standalone, you're still wearing it.

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January 19, 2011

Good call Jack. How dare a private corporation try to make money from a product they paid to develop and advertise.

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December 29, 2010

Sage, thanks for the good points, but let’s be clear… Things aren’t always what they seem. BD has definitely considered licensing the AvaLung to other pack companies, but honestly the list of companies that are ready to deal with the liability of Personal Protection Equipment is really short. Likewise, fitting the AvaLung to other packs just simply isn’t ideal from a performance standpoint and it has nothing to do with marketing. We live and breathe in Avy terrain just like the rest of the community and are only willing to put the BD brand on the safest, most proven gear, especially when it comes down to saving lives.

For more detail on how the AvaLung works and references to the medical journal citations:

www.blackdiamondequipment.com/avalung

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March 3, 2010

jack, couldn't you just put it under your backpack, yes, or no

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January 13, 2010

Word to Sage. I don't like the BD packs. I'm still trying to figure out how to put mine into my old Dakine Heli Pro. BD just keeps flexin nuts to make money.

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November 14, 2011

And if you do retro-fit it or buy a BD built in pack it can get ripped off you in a slide. this keeps it more secure on your body.

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How much does the size matter? Is the bit with the air vents

How much does the size matter? Is the bit with the air vents a different size or just the straps? I'm smallish but am wondering whether I can wear a M/L Ok (I'll just cut off the excess straps) or will it result in the "in" air vent being on my back next to the "out" vent and as a result not work so well. I'm not in the US and now BD has got very strict about Int shipping my options are restricted. Thanks

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March 27, 2012

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You should be ok with a M/L. Just make sure that you place it in the correct manner on your body and that you do not restrict airflow in the crucial parts

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March 28, 2012

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great product

By: Backcountry.com Sponsored Athlete
March 2, 2009

I just got one and feel dumb for not having done so long ago. almost weightless, and so easy to wear. I really can't think of a reason not to have one.

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Does anyone out there wear one of these in conjunction with the

Does anyone out there wear one of these in conjunction with the Ogio Flak Jacket? How is the fit?

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February 27, 2012

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the fit seems to be pretty good,just don't restrict the vents on the avvy

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March 4, 2012

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Easy fit

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February 22, 2010

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Avalanche Burial with Black Diamond AvaLung

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March 5, 2010

On a heli-ski trip out of Haines, AK in April 2008, experienced backcountry skier Chris Cardello was prepared and knew the risks. He was also wearing a helmet cam. This footage is an intense first person perspective on being caught in an avalanche, riding it to burial, breathing through a Black Diamond AvaLung and being rescued by trained professionals. Be safe out there!

The Black Diamond AvaLung allows you to breathe fresh air directly from the snowpack, buying you precious time during a rescue. Rebreathing exhaled air when youre buried causes suffocation because the air becomes oversaturated with carbon dioxide and depleted of oxygen. The AvaLung diverts the exhausted air away from your fresh-air intake zone, considerably extending the time your partners have to conduct a successful recovery.

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November 10, 2010

BD makes the claim that skier Chris Cardello breathed through an Avalung during his burial. According to a personal account from someone in the area (see http://vimeo.com/6581009), Cardello's mouth filled with snow and he didn't get the Avalung into his mouth, which would make BD's claim invalid and misleading. Could someone clarify this?

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March 7, 2011

I have seen this video shown in a number of avalanche safety presentations, one put on by the Friends of Berthoud Pass. They said that he only partially got the the tube into his mouth while the rest was blocked. Clearly this was preventing the avalung from functioning properly because if you listen to his quickly diminishing ability to breathe its clear he doesn't have a lot of time left (he was pulled out in under 5 min, extremely fortunate). I think this video is actually a warning about the likely shortcomings of avalungs if you don't ski with them in your mouth.

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September 5, 2011

So with the device half way in your mouth, is it completely useless, or slightly less useful?

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Safety First!

By: Backcountry.com Sponsored Athlete
February 2, 2011

I have been using the Avalung for the past 6 years. Its a great tool to have for backcountry and even inbounds skiing. They make a "fog horn" noise when breathing through it. No need to be alarmed thats normal. The main thing is that you should have it in your mouth while skiing, this may seem awkward at times, but after some use it becomes a normal feeling. A must have for the backcountry enthusiast.

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whats the difference between the avalung ll and the original

whats the difference between the avalung ll and the original avalung?

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December 12, 2011

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The old lung is a bit larger and more cumbersome; whereas the II is more compact and a bit more kind to your wallet. Never had to use either in a burial, but the breathing mechanics seem very similar, ie same idea, just smaller and more refined..

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January 11, 2012

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Like a GLOVE!

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December 29, 2011

Ignore the cheesy smile....I'm 6'1" 185lbs, wearing a large Oakley Primed jacket with a M/L Avalung II & Dakine Heli Pro DLX.

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March 31, 2012

dude i have that pack i would love to add this to it!!

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March 31, 2012

how did you attach it to your dakine backpack?

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Don't leave Home without it!

By: Backcountry.com Sponsored Athlete
January 2, 2010

Anything you can do to increase your chances of survival in an avalanche seems like a good idea to me. I've been a long time user and supporter of the Avalung, and I advise anyone skiing in avalanche terrain to use it as well. With a few modifications, I've seamlessly integrated the Avalung into a few different DaKine backpacks and Im sure you could do the same with others. As stated below, the Avalung is no substitute for good, thoughtful decision making while skiing in avalanche terrain. Use your Head, so you don't have to use your Avalung!!!

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November 14, 2011

Well, if you do retro fit it or buy a BD built in pack it can get ripped off you in a slide. this keeps it more secure on your body.

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December 29, 2010

So obviously, BD can’t condone retrofitting an AvaLung Sling to any pack. While the AvaLung is a simple device, the parts that go into it are definitely not and they cannot be easily modified or adapted using existing packs or hardware store parts. In reality, there’s a lot of design and testing that go into each part. For instance, the tubing is cold-temp resistant, extends to lengths that will still perform if the pack is pulled-on during a burial, and is double-walled for burial crush-resistant (with shovels, etc. in your pack). Also, the shoulder sleeve in BD’s AvaLung packs acts as the first level of snow filtration and also maximizes the surface area for air intake and the exhaust is shaped to prevent sealing off by A-framed skis and located as far away from the intake as possible.

For sure there are other good winter packs out there… but retro-fitting an AvaLung sling is a seriously false sense of security. Just from the photo,(http://www.backcountry.com/store/review/200072876/Avalung-installed-on-a-Dakine-Pack.html) it looks like the valve box could easily get jammed with snow and the mouthpiece tubing isn’t long enough to stay in if a slide tries to rip you apart. It also sounds like the hardware-store tubing is suspect at best.

Stay safe, have fun, but use Personal Protection Equipment only as it’s intended.

For more detail on how the AvaLung works and references to the medical journal citations go to:

www.blackdiamondequipment.com/avalung

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October 1, 2010

"A backpack may be worn over the AvaLung II harness. NOTE : Make sure the exhalation tube is not pinched by your specific pack – otherwise you should use a different one." - Black Diamond Avalung II users guide.

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March 3, 2010

couldn't you just put the avalung under the pack?

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By: Backcountry.com Sponsored Athlete
February 11, 2010

George, The process for installing a BD avalung into a dakine pack goes like this: Remove the avalung from the sleeve so that all you are left with is the bare avalung. Make a clean incision on the top left shoulder strap near where it attaches to the pack. Insert the exhaust portion of the avalung tube into the whole you cut, which should go right into the main portion of the pack. I used zip ties to secure the avalung to the shoulder strap (its now in the same position as the BD packs). I also extended the exhaust tube with some tubing I got at Home depot and duct tape. I did this so I could make sure the Co2 was being deposited at the bottom of my pack, far away from the air intake.

This process will vary depending on what kind of pack you are trying to modify. I've seen people add the avalung to all kinds of different packs. It just takes a bit of modification know how.

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February 5, 2010

Can you show me how you did it?

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How does this work for a high altitude hike. or does it not help

How does this work for a high altitude hike. or does it not help at all

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November 6, 2011

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This is designed to pull oxygen from the snow in the event you are buried in an avalanche. It will not otherwise aid with regular breathing.

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November 7, 2011

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Avalung installed on a Dakine Pack

By: Backcountry.com Sponsored Athlete
September 16, 2010

The Avalung is a great invention. You can install this model into pretty much any backpack that has a hydration sleeve type of pocket. All it takes is a little macgyvering and some thought. I got some extra tubing at homedepot similar to what the avalung is made out of to make the exhaust come out at the bottom right of the pack. Works great, though i don't intend to use it at all costs! Its best to not get in avalanches.

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Will it work on the moon?

Will it work on the moon?

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October 26, 2011

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Actually, the gasses in the body would expand in a vacuum causing Brennan to explode rather than implode. Good news, however...as the space inside Brennan's head is apparently a vacuum as well, that portion of his anatomy would survive relatively unscathed. {:<)

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December 5, 2011

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No, there's no atmosphere on the moon, space is a vacuum, and you and it would implode.

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October 27, 2011

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Probably not... Got some new lines in mind?

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October 26, 2011

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proper !! : )

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April 13, 2011

none needed.........deep!

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Got to have one

By: Backcountry.com Sponsored Athlete
June 17, 2009

I was in my first slide this winter on a mellow, what seemed stable, slope in the Alta, Utah backcountry. I didn't have an Avalung. I luckily didn't get buried - but if I had, I would have been in trouble. Immediately after, I thought "why in the hell don't I have an Avalung?" Exactly. I can't say much more than that because I haven't had to use it, but I've heard amazing things from people like Sage/Jeremy - and my buddy Chris Cardello was buried in an avalanche in Alaska wearing a helmet camera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C2eWRvZgKU Amazing video. Get an Avalung.

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Any chance of black diamond making a full face helmet avalung?

Any chance of black diamond making a full face helmet avalung? I think this would be a great way to solve the problem of not getting the tube in your mouth in time.

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October 5, 2011

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It works.

By: Backcountry.com Sponsored Athlete
October 21, 2008

You hardly know it is there. I retro fitted mine to my backpack shoulder strap. There is no reason not to have one.

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November 2, 2009

Did you use zip ties?

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How is the fit? Does it fit well with backpacks on? And does

How is the fit? Does it fit well with backpacks on? And does it fit well with a beacon on underneath?And if you were to get in an avalanche would it be ripped off you since you have to wear it on the outside for it to work properly? Thanks for any helpful feedback.

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November 21, 2010

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If properly sized and adjusted, they fit very well. Snug, tight, but not restrictive. Yes, it fits well with backpacks on, and I actually prefer it to the packs with the built in avalung. With regard to the beacon, it is a non-issue. They don't bother each other. If fitted properly I couldn't imagine it being ripped off. You would have to have your jacket lifted and torn up over your head while still zipped. And since the avalung is cinched down and buckled, I see this as being highly unlikely to impossible. The more probable scenario is the tube being ripped out of your mouth do to the force and turbulence of the avalanche. Check out the picture of the way the standalone avalung fits on me and my buddy Dalton behind me.

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August 29, 2011

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Hi ,
Same questions here,
thanks!

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August 13, 2011

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anyone have answers for these questions?

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January 18, 2011

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avalung on loveland pass

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April 16, 2011

actually minutes before triggering a slab, glad to have bought the lung

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Most essential!!

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April 15, 2011

Duh, this is a no-brainer: If you need a beacon, then you need a Lung even more dearly. The beacon is a recovery device, whereas the AvaLung is a SURVIVAL device. That said, the well functioning brain is the single most critical piece of equipment -- use it wisely.

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I want an Avalung, but I don't want to be constantly biting

I want an Avalung, but I don't want to be constantly biting on the hose. I want something that's going to stay on my face without biting in an avalanche.

I'm thinking about firmly attaching a mask to the mouth piece.
From someone who owns it, is this a feasible/realsitic modification?
Anyone care to flame about why its a dumb idea?

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November 10, 2010

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Unless you have an airtight seal with the tube ie your mouth, the avalung won't work. It requires positive and negative pressure through the circuit for the valves to work. I can't imagine skiing with an airtight mask on is goin to be very comfortable.

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January 21, 2011

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I was worried about the mask getting ripped off at first.
However, I'm more worried that the mouth piece would get ripped out while I was biting or my bite would loosen in an avalanche. Also if you become unconscious your Avalung is useless.
I'm confident I can construct a mask that will stay on my face.
I think the hardest part is going to be getting the hose to stay connected to the mask.

Anyone have a beater Avalung they'd sell for cheap so I can make a prototype?

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November 11, 2010

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I don't know about "flaming", but something to consider is that the muscles in your jaw are some of the strongest in your body. If you were thinking about something like rigging up an O2 mask with a typical elastic band to hold it on, you run the risk of having it ripped off your face as you're getting battered and tumbled. Even something as bulky and uncomfortable as a gas mask or respirator would probably end up the same way. That's my thought anyhow. Sort of the same reasoning as the idea of strapping on a beacon under your layers, tight up into your torso...keeping critical lifesaving gear from ending up at the yard sale.

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November 11, 2010

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Give yourself a fighting chance

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January 8, 2009

I'm very grateful I haven't had to actually use it other than wear it. This thing is the real deal and has gone through tons of testing to make sure it actually works. And it does. This is no substitute for proper training and avalanche safety, but in the event of being caught in an avy, this can save your life. The average burial victim has about 15 minutes, before their chances of survival drops dramatically. With this thing on, worn properly and used properly you time frame is increased to about 45 minutes. It makes it possible to breathe while buried, and prevents CO2 poisoning, a big factor for those who are caught and able to breathe. This thing is the real deal and a worthy investment. Even if you never have to actually use it, isn't your life worth more than $130.

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Hi there. I've seen a few posts mentioning transplanting

Hi there. I've seen a few posts mentioning transplanting an Avalung II into / onto a non avalung pack. I was wondering if the same thing could be done with the avalung in an avalung pack? I've seen bandit avalung packs cheaper than an avalung II. As I'd like it in an Osprey Kode anyway it would make sense to by the cheaper bandit avalung pack, transplant the avalung component and still have the bandit pack to use for something else.

Has anyone tried this, or even know if it would work?

Cheers

Pete

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Documented Lives Saved

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July 16, 2003

I never plan to see whether it really works, but fairly light and affordable. The BD website documents one life that was definitely saved, and two other burials where it worked (although victims probably would have lived anyway). Any powder-oriented tour should require these.*****August 2009 update from my original July 2003 review: BD no longer seems to be providing a list of documented deployments, but since my review, I've read about a couple more, and the victim was always able to get the mouthpiece in, which is very reassuring. (All the victims lived, although burials were of such short duration that they probably would have lived anyway even without an Avalung.)An Avalung is also a great idea for treewell safety. The Avalung packs are definitely more convenient though. This past season, I was touring with a friend in Boise who had the pack version, while I still had a sling version. Whenever we need to add or remove a layer, I had to take off then put back on my Avalung. Okay, only several seconds at each transition, but it's still somewhat of a bother. The flip side is that when we've met up for early summer skiing, he still has to bring his integrated Avalung along with him. November 2009 update: I somehow completely missed a reference in a TAR article last year to a failed deployment, with the survivor noting how the Avalung mouthpiece was torn out of his mouth.

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hey so cant i just put this avalung under my touring pack because

hey so cant i just put this avalung under my touring pack because the air intake is on the front of you and the exhause is at the bottom to the side of you? that is what i have been doing in the past, but please give me some feedback to if this actually works, or if it could present dangerous for me in a burial. Thanks!

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June 1, 2010

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Retro-fitting is not recommended. With this type of device, follow the instructions so it doesn't get ripped off your pack.

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June 2, 2010

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Most people retro-fit them to one of their back pack straps and everything works just fine... The "lung" needs to be able to be next to the snow to diffuse or capture oxygen... So if your pack covers it thats no good...

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June 2, 2010

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standard avy gear

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November 10, 2009

You carry a beacon, probe and shovel right? carry this too. very light. It could save your life. duct tape or zip tie it to your pack's shoulder strap

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March 3, 2010

do you keep the avalung under your pack

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How about sizing on this?

How about sizing on this?

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March 26, 2010

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# S/M fits 44 kg-73 kg (100-160 lb)
# M/L fits 68 kg-102 kg (150-225 lb)

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March 26, 2010

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Great Device

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November 8, 2008

This is for "last chance" and "just incase". Please get this product if you go into the BC, but do not go into the BC just because you have this and you think you are invincible.

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could you put the avalung under a backpack

could you put the avalung under a backpack

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March 3, 2010

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Ok, Brennan...
Here is a step-by-step on how to put your avalung into whatever backpack you want.
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-convert-any-pack-avalung-avalanche-safety-pack-273244/view/
Hope this helps.

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March 10, 2010

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You can comfortably wear it along with a backpack at the same time with no problems... i have several friends who do it...

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March 3, 2010

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Great idea that is proven to work

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December 9, 2008

The avalung is one more tool in the quiver that begins with solid backcountry education. This product is great as a stand alone, but I like have also purchased the integrated pack b/c this gets to be a pain when you are taking gear on and off in the backcountry. One more thing to deal with, bit of course worth the hassle if this is what you have. However,this is perfect for heli skiing where you have to have a smaller pack or take turns carrying the pack.

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does this fit under a deuter freeride pro 30 backpack, or a kode

does this fit under a deuter freeride pro 30 backpack, or a kode 3O Pack?

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February 28, 2010

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Powder shot

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April 18, 2011

I hope I will never need to use the Avalung. Be safe in the backcountry and enjoy the freshies.

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April 18, 2011

The Avalung makes me feel a little more comfy in the backcountry. It is light and easy to wear. I hope I'll never need it! Be safe.

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April 18, 2011

The Avalung makes me feel a little more comfy in the backcountry. It is light and easy to wear. I hope I'll never need it! Be safe.

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Great product

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December 3, 2009

Never had to use it, but it is super lightweight, increases the amount of time you can be buried without asphyxiation, but as other reviews have stated, make sure this DOES NOT play a role in your decision making. For that I usually wear it on most backcountry excursions so that I don't have to select the times I do wear it.

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Would this be effective in tree well submersions?

Would this be effective in tree well submersions?

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January 11, 2010

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Will help decrease all chances of NARSED (Non Avalanche Related Snow Emergent Death)

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January 13, 2010

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Yes.

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January 11, 2010

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For NARSED, too!

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January 13, 2010

So everyone knows that the Avalung will help you breathe longer buried in an avalanche. What some people fail to realize, though, is that it can help reduce chances of NARSED as well. Non Avalanche Related Snow Emergent Death has claimed several lives, including last year at Alta. Make sure you're with a partner, carry a beacon, probe, shovel, and know how to use them all. Add the Avalung to your mandatory list of five. As Sage mentioned, though, do not let the Avalung become a factor in your judgement. Wearing a bullet-proof vest doesn't mean you won't get shot in the head. As far as sizing goes, the 2 options are more like SM-L and XL. I'm 6' and 160lbs, I got the M/L and it's too big when I don't have all my layers on.

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January 3, 2011

Jack, great point! I wanted some more info, so I just thought I'd add the correction: I think you are referring to NARSID:

Non-Avalanche-Related Snow Immersion Death (NARSID)

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March 3, 2010

can you put the avalung under a pack.

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Write your question here...Is the avalung only to be worn on

Write your question here...Is the avalung only to be worn on the outside of clothes or can it be worn inside? I have my own backpack for my shovel, skins, probe, etc...How does the avalung sit on your body and how can you wear it so it doesn't interfere with my pack... I don't want to buy a new pack...

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October 24, 2009

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The Avalung will only work when worn on the outside of your jacket. Make sure to keep the mouthpiece clear of snow and obstructions.

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January 13, 2010

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You can wear it just like in Doug picture below. I would highly, HIGHLY suggest never wearing it inside your clothes, as common sense would tell you that the CO2 which you are trying to get away from your face, would become trapped in your jacket, which in most cases vents upwards due to the neck being one of the only exit points, especially with a powder skirt done up. So the best idea is outside your jacket, where it can disperse away from you into the snow.

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October 25, 2009

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Why dont they have a face mask option like a cycle mask, so

Why dont they have a face mask option like a cycle mask, so you dont have to get the tube into your mouth?

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October 2, 2009

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A mask has the potential to get ripped off or displaced, while the tube inside your mouth can be bitten down on and works remarkably well.

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December 13, 2009

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wife of a rider

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February 6, 2007

Stopping my husband from dropping cliffs or shooting a line is impossible. While there are large risks at stake, this piece of equipment gives me a little peace of mind. I bought him an avalung for Christmas and I thought it was very reasonably priced. He tells me it doesn't bother him or gets in his way while he rides. I have seen too much footage of avalanches and close calls for my husband and his friends. The way I look at it is, why WOULDN'T you want an extra piece of equipment to increase your chance of survival? He'll never stop riding until his body won't let him anymore, so in the mean time...he needs to have ALL of the stuff to bring him home.

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Is it still comfortable to wear with a pack and beacon already

Is it still comfortable to wear with a pack and beacon already strapped on you?

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June 6, 2009

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I've worn mine in both 1/2 hour sidecountry treks, and 4+ hour long tours. With both lighter packs and heavier fully stuffed packs. It was never irritating, annoying, or painful. It was just there, and I didn't really notice it. It is no less comfortable then wearing a pack anyway. So if you're used to having a pack on you anyway, it's a non-issue.

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September 25, 2009

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its getting to be alot of stuff i would get a pack with one built in. I dont really know if these are really worth the money. Sure they work but as you get caught in an avalanch you have to get this in your mouth and keep it in there the whole time...good luck...

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June 6, 2009

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A whole extra hour? This thing is mandatory.

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October 3, 2009

And low-profile and well designed.

Buy one, but then stick to the #1 rule: don't ever need it!

Dig a pit; it's really not that much effort.

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Write your question here... Anybody wearing this with a dakine

Write your question here... Anybody wearing this with a dakine helipro pack? Any issues?

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April 21, 2009

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No there are no real issues with this combo.

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April 28, 2009

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Just put it on last

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March 13, 2009

I just wear it in AK, no second thoughts. Seen to much stuff happen even when you are "sure". It has never been uncomfortable or in my way with sall the other gear. I also bought one for my brother. Good price for what it can do ie:buy more time for searchers

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How does it feel when you wear this under a backpack? Can you

How does it feel when you wear this under a backpack? Can you feel the backpack squeezing the tube against your back when you cinch your pack tight?

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February 18, 2009

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The tube's not against your back, it runs down your front below the shoulder strap of your backpack. Doesn't get in the way at all.

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February 18, 2009

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How much is your life worth?

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January 18, 2008

I hardly know it is there and I have never had to use it. Have been in a slide I thought I was going to be buried in and it was easy to get the mouth piece in during the slide.

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Will this fit in/with the black diamond bandit pack?

Will this fit in/with the black diamond bandit pack?

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January 2, 2009

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It won't fit "in" the pack, although you can wear it in addition to the pack. You should check out the Bandit with the integrated Avalung http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD0380/Black-Diamond-Bandit-Avalung-Pack-690cu-in.html-------------It's actually a fair bit cheaper to get the Bandit Avalung.

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January 2, 2009

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Just in case!

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February 8, 2011

You should never get safety gear to justify taking bad descisions or going places you shouldn't. Period!

That said, I got the Avalung because I was already going off piste skiing and even if you minimize the risk, it's always there.

The avalung fits perfectly over the jacket and I use a Dakine Heli Pro backpack and it doesn't interfer with the Avalung. While riding, I was never concious about wearing it, which is a pluss. It's like the avi reciever, I never think about wearing it.

Negative: It's hard getting it out of the protection neoprene and if you have the mouthpiece out and crash, it easily get's filled with snow.

I'm glad I got it and hope I never have to use it. (I got two, one for me and one for my girlfriend. Hope she never has to use hers either).

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How's the comfort with a pack? I was planning on getting

How's the comfort with a pack? I was planning on getting just the avalung to wear with any pack, but also considering an integrated one.

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November 29, 2008

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IN an avalanche your pack could get ripped off, rendering your avalung useless. Get the stand alone.

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February 1, 2009

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Avalung II

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March 2, 2006

I just bought the Avalung II. It arrived in a box with a precise manual on how to use it. What’s cool is its size (pretty slim) and that you can wear it with your backpack without any problem. I use it as an additional safety device next to the avalanche beeper and the AVS-Airbag system. Mouth peace could be bigger and more anatomically fitting, but one will only find out in an avalanche if the thing keeps in place.

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do you need to wear it over your jacket, or can it be undern

do you need to wear it over your jacket, or can it be underneath?

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November 5, 2008

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It has to be worn on your outer most layer of clothing to function properly.----------Yes, Absolutely Must be able to touch the snow when you are buried!

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November 19, 2008

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Avalung

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March 17, 2010

Use of avalung during skiing

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Haven't had to "use" it yet

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March 26, 2009

Luckily, I haven't had to use this for what it's intended to be used for, but I have brought it out several times. It's very comfortable, lightweight, and seemingly easy to use. The mouthpiece stays stable when it's out, and it feels like it would be fairly easy to locate quickly in the event of a slide. I don't even notice when I'm skinning/ hiking when the mouthpiece is put away. Hopefully I'll never have to "use" my avalung, but a 100 bucks is well worth it for the extra moments it gives my crew to dig me out if I do get buried.

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Great product

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March 4, 2010

If you ski in the backcountry, I'm not sure why you wouldn't use it. It fits on pretty easily without much hassle. Great product

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Easy to wear

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March 2, 2007

I live in the East but CAT ski in British Columbia. I just returned from a my first trip with the Black Diamond Avalung. I found that it was easy to wear after you got used to it and added to your sense of security should there be a slide. Whether you will get your mouth around the mouthpiece in time is an issue but hopefully you will never have to. If you do, I believe you will have an advantage. You do forget you have it on since it is so light.

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I LIKE!!!!

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March 13, 2009

light and comfortable. isn't in the way or uncomfortable with my pack. doubles as a snorkel on those deep pow days :) hopefully that will be the only reason to really use it. get the stand alone since packs can be easily to be ripped off in an avalanche.

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A (trumpeting) AvaLung

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March 13, 2009

I was given an Avalung for Christmas and whilst I haven't been in the unfortunate position of having to use it for real, I have one slight concern as to what would happen if I ever did. No-one in their reviews has mentioned this (but I have seen it on other boards so I know it's not just my solitary avalung); it makes a sound as if you are blowing a trumpet. I can handle making some noise given it's life-saving capabilities so I'm not complaining about that, but I do query whether the reverberations in the exchange chamber affect your ability to breathe successfully with it. I have tried practising breathing with it and it reverberates both breathing in and out, and I feel as though I am struggling to get a full breath through it. You're advised to breathe slowly and calmly but the only way I get a breathful of air is to practically hyperventilate into it. I would be interested to hear whether anyone else has come across this issue and if there's a "fix" for it. I certainly won't stop taking it out with me, but I'd like to feel more reassured it's a working and useful piece of kit so I can enthuse as much as everyone else.

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Essential Backcountry Ski Gear

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April 30, 2003

The next time your friends are doing a beacon practice, try holding your hold your breath until they uncover your beacon. That should be enough to convince you to always use an Avalung in steep terrain. The Avalung is well- designed, weighs the equivalent of two feathers and is not noticeable when you are wearing it. It slips on or off in a second.

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BACKCOUNTRY BASIC!!

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March 28, 2005

This is a Backcountry basic! You need every advantage you can get when a slide starts. I hope that I’ll never need to put it to use.

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Saweet

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October 30, 2006

Allowed me to survive the biggest slide of my career.
Thanks BD

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Will save your life

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January 18, 2006

Although I have not had to use this (in a real burial situation)I hope i never do. It is comfy to wear and gives you peace of mind that you can last 60 min. buried during a avalanche a great item to bring on your next excursion.

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AvaLung

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February 8, 2007

Fortunately I have not been caught in an avalanche to test the avalung however, the sense of security one has (all of my friends have an avalung) when wearing an avalung makes skiing the backcountry that much more enjoyable. Just remember, you MUST remain as safe back there as you ever have been.

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Avalung II

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November 29, 2006

Compared to the old vests the Avalung 2 is far less intrusive. You can wear it under clothing and packs and it fits confidently and comfortably. I bought 2 for xmas presents for two buddies I tour with. Hopefully, none of us get to actually test whether it works, but Black Diamond staff did and one dude was under the snow for 40+ minutes. That's hard data - fact - truth. I was sold.

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Just in case

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February 8, 2003

I have not had to use the Avalung and I intend to keep it that way but in Utah it easy to get in harms way. I like how small and easy the Avalung is to take on and off. Despite my best judgment powder has a tendency to lure me into places I probably should not be. So it seem like $100 is not to much to pay for added security.

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Good Buy

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April 12, 2007

Good gear and good piece of mind. Hope never to have to use this except in practice.

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Doesn't get in the way

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May 23, 2006

Like others here have written, I hope never to find out if it actually works, but as a piece of extra insurance, it is certainly easy to haul along with you. It is light, fits easily over my jacket without getting in the way, and I was still able to ski hard and jump around lots with the mouthpiece situated inches from my lips. At the end of each run, there it was still ready for an immediate snatch with the teeth. And it didn't look goofy in the pictures. More importantly, if it saves my life someday, it'll be worth every cent, of course.

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Great Idea

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December 15, 2008

I'm happy to have an avalung. But not as happy as I am to have never really used it. I've attached it to my back with about a dozen zip ties. This means that I always have it so it's no biggie to pull out the mouth piece. Before I did that, I kept it in my pack as though having it out would make it more dangerous. BS. Get it. Use it. Live longer.

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The avalung is a great tool to help increase your chances of survival if caught in a avalanche. however, it should not be involved in a decisions making more...

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Material:
nylon, rugged flexible plastic 
Weight:
9.3 oz 
Recommended Use:
increasing avalanche-survival chances by allowing continued breathing while submerged in snow 
Manufacturer Warranty:
1 year