First off, these pants rock. Period. But I'm not biased... They have an amazing design, articulated knees to promote movement, baggy fit so you never get that binding feeling, they're supper comfy and have savvy pockets. This is your all around outstanding pant. The material has a great feel to it. It's feels durable and waterproof, but it it's soft and comfy. Basically the utter opposite of typical raincoat fabric, but still with the goods. Cross also designed the Petter pant with a great fit, it has a wider waistband that sits perfectly wherever you want it. And they even gave it built-in spandex waistband tightener thingy so you can get the perfect fit, no belt required! If you can't decide between this pant or another, go with this one and you'll never stop singin' Hakuna Matata. Oh and I almost forgot... for all those snowboaders out there, the Petter pant has a but pad :) yeah... now you want it.