Have been looking for a good trail pant that could double for climbing or just kicking it around. These pants are definitely all three, for me. At 5’10” & 185 lbs, I have an... athletic... backside. I rarely find jeans or pants in the “trendier” fits, that work for me. Regular “dad” fit is my cross to bear. That said, neither Patagonia nor Craghoppers have worked for me. The craghopper was OK but only because of the highly elastic inner waistband, and we’re tight in the crotch and thighs which has less stretch. I couldn’t even get the Patagonias all the way up, which is a shame because they seemed, as is anything I purchase from patagonia, extremely high quality. These marmots probably do run a bit large in the waist and backside, as others have said, but that works very well for me. The back pockets are large, true, as others pointed out, but Again, I typically throw my license, credit card, and granola bar in the zip pocket and take off if I’m ever doing anything where I may be at risk of losing anything that would have been in my back pocket. Big fan of these so far.