I recently got this pack and found out, that I really like it. The V shape it comes in provides a wide top for easy filling up with gear. Pockets on the inside provide perfectly space areas for shoes and chalk bag. Then the back opens and you can pull out the rope tarp with the rope in it. The back straps also provide a duffel style pick up for easy moving between routes. I also fit two trad racks, 2 sets of draws, 2 shoes, 2 liters of water, chalk bag, sunscreen, guidebook all inside the pack while the rope securely attached to the outside. the 45L size is the perfect mix. I had the BD Stone and it just wasnt enough room. Great bag. You will not be let down.