I love the patagonia pow slayer pants. My pair from 5 years ago was just getting a bit small so I wanted to get a larger pair. This new design is not at all like the old design. Because of the location of where the straps are in the front, and if you have any sort of breast, the straps are pushed out to the sides. Looking at the image on the product page you can even see it. The straps being pushed out means the straps ride under the armpit. If the design was better the placement of where the front of the straps were sewn in should be closer to the center of the waist and not so far out. Because the straps are so far out, and rubbing under the armpit, you wouldn't want to use the straps as actually functioning to keeping your pants up. They are more of this annoying style then functional. Patagonia needs to go back to the original design that was full-chested bibs you could trust keeping your pants up. Do not waste $800 on these. They are not functional bibs they are pants with weird straps attached. I will keep wearing my old pow slayer bibs from years ago until Patagonia brings back the old design.