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Christopher M.

Christopher M.

Christopher M.wrote a review of on November 5, 2017

4 5

Fit: True to size
Height: 5' 9"
Weight: 170 lbs

Tried this on at the TNF store in Union Square (SF, not NY) the other day. I have a TNF Summit shell from 2007/08 that I still wear snowboarding in more extreme conditions, because in all that time I have yet to find anything better (TNF didn’t even bother to offer a legit snow sports option last year).

This new Summit L5 fell short of expectations. While I will say that, unlike most recent TNF offerings, at least they’ve got the sizing right with this one and it does feel like a solid, durable piece, there are two major issues I can’t get past.

First, no hand pockets. My Summit shell has them (granted, their placement is somewhat awkward to allow use with a pack, but at least there are pockets) and I can’t replace that shell with one that doesn’t - especially at this price.

Second, this shell has a fixed, non-stashable hood. The hood on my Summit shell zips off and, since I rarely ride with a hood and don’t use that shell for rain (have two rain shells for that), I don’t need the hood most of the time, and it often gets in the way.

In terms of quality, most TNF gear has fallen off significantly in the past decade as TNF has become more a fashion brand and less a serious outdoor apparrel manufacturer. It’s good to see the Summit Series still keeps it real.

Unfortunately, TNF has failed here to think this piece through adequately, and so I can’t justify the expenditure. I went with an OR Igneo jacket, and I’m very happy with both the product and the price.

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Christopher M.

Christopher M.wrote a review of on January 13, 2017

5 5

Familiarity: I've used it several times
Fit: True to size
Height: 5' 9"
Weight: 170 lbs
Size Purchased: Medium

I made the mistake of listening to the idiot on the OR website whose review indicated this jacket is "not very warm", and wore a Marmot stretch fleece under it the first time out in the rain. It was < 45 degrees outside, and after walking half a mile non-strenuously, I was sweating but completely dry. (By comparison, my 10-year old TNF Summit hardshell has basically the same effect with similar layering, and that's 3L Gore-Tex.)

The jacket also handles wind well gusts over 30 mph without a hitch. If you're active - as you're supposed to be when wearing this kind of shell - you'll be very comfortable with just a baselayer in temps close to freezing. Colder than that, add another layer and you're good.

The material flexes with you, and for my "athletic" build is perfect over a base layer, light fleece midlayer or both, without any noticeable restriction of arm movement.

The material feels very durable, but time will tell; one review that made me hesitate said the seam tape peels after a couple years. But then I read the OR warranty, and now I'm not worried about it.

If I have a complaint, it's the absence of pit zips - I'm hoping to (finally) replace my TNF shell and use this as my main winter ski shell, but would be nice to be able to use it in spring as well.

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Christopher M.

Christopher M.wrote a review of on December 17, 2016

5 5

Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
Fit: True to size
Height: 5' 9"
Weight: 170 lbs
Size Purchased: Medium

I was a little nervous ordering medium/short instead of regular, but when the pants arrived, the length and fit were perfect; fit comfortably over my 31"/30" Levi's jeans. I ordered with a Minimalist jacket, but it unfortunately stopped raining in SF the day before my order arrived, so I put on the pants and jacket and stood under the shower for five minutes to test. Bone dry. Thanks Marmot and Backcountry for yet another win.

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