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Petzl Laser Speed Ice Screws

$59.95

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    5 Reviews

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    Speed is the name of this screw's game.

    Speed is always a factor in the ice climbing world, so make sure you aren't fumbling around with dull screws when the sharp Petzl Laser Speed Ice Screws get you climbing safely and quickly. Petzl shaped these steel drills to screw into ice quickly, and the aluminum handles flex significantly to make screwing these bad boys in as simple as can be. Petzl even color coded each size so you don't waste time looking for the right size in a big rack.

    • Steel drill with optimal shape
    • Integrated flexible crank
    • Color coded
    • Item #PTZ0384

    Tech Specs

    Material
    [tube, drill] steel, [hanger] aluminum
    Claimed Weight
    [10cm] 3.9 oz, [13cm] 4.5 oz, [17cm] 5 oz, [21cm] 5.6 oz
    Recommended Use
    ice climbing
    Manufacturer Warranty
    3 years

    Tech Specs

    • Reviews
    • Q & A

    What do you think about this product?

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    Look No Further

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    I first started building my ice rack with BD Express screws because I'd heard they were the 'standard' but soon realized that these are superior. They bite better, have a nicer handle and finish, and are easier to place properly since the hanger itself is smaller and clears surrounding obstructions. The 13cm is my savior!



    Also, those who claim that these are not as durable as BD, that is a bunch of bs. The main concern being the durability of the aluminum hanger. So unless you're hammering the hanger, which you shouldn't do, these will last just as long.

    Look No Further

    Better than BD

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    I think so. I have two 10 cm to fill out my rack. Unfortunately, 10 is so short that you practically don't need to open the crank. But it does feel ultimately better. I find with my BD's that i will still make many turns without the crank. Especially for the last couple.



    They do fit into smaller places a bit better, but the aluminum hanger should not be hit with a hammer. You shouldn't hit the steel BD hanger either though, IMHO. I use the heel of my fist (OR gloves come with a nice pad for this) to try to push the hanger over some bulges or back the screw up and hack out things a bit when that fails.



    The screws bite perfectly. This is either because they're brand new or because Petzl tips are better. This is unverifiable as none of my BD screws are new. But it does give me confidence to buy the Lim'ice sharpener and apply it to my BD screws.



    I'd like to try the superlight aluminum shafted Petzls, but i don't know if i am prepared to pay the price difference. These seem pretty solid to me.

    Still not convinced..

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    I've used the BD Express extensively so I will draw comparisons with them.



    Racking: These rack the same as the BD, they nest nicely together into an ice clipper.

    Starting: They start quickly and well, but not a noticeable improvement over BD. I had no problems starting them easily.

    Speed: The crank knob is a lot bigger than the BD but tends to fold up unintentionally if you crank it really fast. Kind of annoying but I might need to just get used to it.

    Clearance: The slightly smaller hanger compared to BD means it does fit in slightly smaller spaces, but not anywhere near a Grivel 360 clearance.

    Weight: These have an aluminum hanger so they are lighter than the BD screws. The "laser speed light" model with aluminum shaft is incredibly light.

    Hanger: You can easily fit 3 carabiners in the hanger which is quite generously sized.

    Cost: These cost the same as the BD

    Strength: Probably strong enough, but I had no way to test this.

    *Cleaning: I had major problems clearing the ice out of the screw when cleaning them. For half the placements the ice would not come out through normal means (tapping the head against the ice). I had to put the screws in my jacket to melt the cores out. This was with new screws on 2 different trips with 2 different conditions.

    Durability: I have not had them long enough to extensively test the durability. After 2 alpine climbs the shiny finish near the teeth is visibly worn away leaving spots of dull grey metal on the shaft of the screw. Not sure if this is significant yet, but I've never had this with the BD.



    Conclusion: I am not thoroughly convinced these are worse than the BD. However I am convinced these are not significantly better than the BD. The problem with clearing the ice out of the screws was fairly severe, but will require more testing to figure out why that was happening.

    Still not convinced..

    Review follow up:
    I have placed the screws at least a hundred more times in a variety of ice conditions since the previous review. My initial problem with clearing the ice out has been solved by spraying the inside with silicone spray. They now clean beautifully and I can safely say that there is no reason to buy the bd if you are starting an ice rack.

    Does what it says!

    • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

    My friend had a few of these on a climb the other day, and was telling me how much easier they are to place than BD Expresses. I didn't believe him until I tried it for myself. Much easier to start, and drive faster once to have the handle out to boot. Good deal.

    Petzl Instructional Vid

    Petzl says:



    This film demonstrates proper ice screw placement technique, as well as how to set an anchor and a v-thread in waterfall ice. We will discuss the key technical elements, but remember that when swinging your tools into the ice, it is crucial to understand the medium on which you are climbing. The quality of the ice, its structure, the terrain above, recent changes in temperature - all these factors and others must be considered before you step off the ground and onto the ice.

    Awesome ice screws!

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    This redesign by Petzl is awesome. The screws have extended tips to help with the initial "stab" at the ice and really good cutting faces on the starts of the threads. They drive really well with the handle out. Would have liked to see a double hanger like the BD screws, it comes in handy, but it's definitely not a deal killer.