All downhill, and no apologies.
- DIN 5-14
- Magnesium parts
- Triple Pivot Elite toe
- Pin system toe adjustment for AT and alpine
- Inter-Pivot heel
- AFD fixed stainless steel gliding plate
- Only non-touring binding for AT and alpine boots
- Item #MRK0069
- Q & A
Not compatible, poor service.
- Familiarity: I returned this product before using it
Let me start by saying my poor review is directed at Backcountry, not Marker. I've never had an issue with Marker (or BC until now for that matter) and this binding seems just as legit as ones I've used in the past, though I won't be able to actually see how it works.
I picked these up to use with my Nordica Enforcer 100's and Tecnica Cochise 120 boot. After mounting and testing the binding I discovered this boot binding combo is actually NOT compatible without significant modification to the boots. Very disappointing. Backcountry told me that they were compatible (and they should be compatible, based on info from Marker and Tecnica), but they are not. Unfortunately, I've found BC's customer service to be obstinate and unhelpful at every turn. Tecnica and Marker made the gear, but I chose to buy from BC instead of one of the many other options because of previous good experiences. Backcountry is in the customer service business, not the manufacturing business, but the response to my situation has made me rethink whether to spend my money with BC in the future. When asked what my options would be, I was twice told I could return them - but only for store credit since they're used. I've never used them, but I mounted them on my skis based on BC's information and now my brand new skis have holes in them which will hinder mounting another Marker royal-series binding in the recommended area. All of this based on a good-faith understanding that BC would provide accurate information and would help me out if that information harmed me or my gear.
The reasonable person that I am, I don't expect new skis (though any reputable shop would replace them if they had made the same mistake). I was willing to work out something to resolve the situation short of replacing my skis and returning my binding but a store credit was their best offer, twice. My poor skis left drilled and abandoned having never been ridden...
Marker Lord SP Ski Binding
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
I got the Black/White/Teal, 90mm.
I only have initial impressions of this beauty, but so far I really like it, first off it is a very clean binding, as far as looks care concerned.
I have these set up on the DPS Cassiar P95, 185 cm, Pure 3 (Granada Green).
This boot is a pretty special one out on the market right now because it is accommodates both AT, and Alpine boots safely. Definitely a nice tool to have in your quiver. The burly, made-for-ripping Triple Pivot Elite toe features a pin system that you adjust for AT or alpine boots, which
helps makes the touring versus hitting the resort decision a little more manageable. Plus a lot of skiers these days are moving towards wearing touring boots a lot more frequently because of how comfortable they are, so to have a binding in your quiver that'll allow you to do that is a nice perk.
Definitely another burly binding made by Marker, got a wide range of Din settings on there, so you can mix it up.
Here is a little youtube review made by Basin Sports out of Killington, VT. By no means do I mean to steal any of the video content here, or claim it as my own, just thought it was a helpful video.
Good option for AT boots
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I ski in Scarpa Maestrale AT boots both in bounds and in the backcountry. These bindings are just about the only option that I've found that work as a traditional alpine/resort binding with my Maestrales. I've got a pair of Marker Kingpins on the skis that I normally tour with, but was looking for a dedicated alpine binding for resort skis.
The toe piece is easy enough to adjust between alpine and rockered/AT soles if you're looking to use these with multiple boots. The heal also has a couple CMs of adjustment for varying boot sole lengths.
I've got no complaints on performance - the power transmission is good and the release is straightforward. I've had the bindings release my AT boots reliably without having any issues with pre release. Also no issues with durability - mine have the normal scratches and dings from regular use, but no issues with anything actually breaking apart
Marker Lord SP Ski Binding
Functional binding for AT boots
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Bought these for my wife's Kastle Mx 70 style slalom ski. She uses an AT boot (garmont) for everything- powder skis to icy groomer skis and we couldn't find a good, non-touring binding to accommodate her boot until now.
The marker lords mounted easily to a 70mm wide ski and the 90 mm brakes did not get in the way. They actually fold into the side of the binding when the boot is locked in. The bindings are a little heavy but overall it's an extremely light set up.
Zero complaints. I'll be buying a set for myself!
A lot of hype for an OK binding
- Familiarity: I gave it as a gift but have feedback to share
Got my boyfriend a pair of these for Christmas because he has an unhealthy attachment to his Scarpa Maestrales (and because I /love/ my marker Griffons). I was at 4/5 stars when he pulled them out of the box (little buggers are HEAVY), and that's since dropped down to a 3/5 for a few reasons.
1. Part of what makes the Maestrale such an amazing AT boot is the rockered sole. Because of this pronounced rocker, they don't really work with the Lords (which I later realized was probably because they don't have an ISO 9523 complying sole). They work in that he double released when he should have (epic double tomohawk yardsale), but it is impossible to get the toe piece adjusted on the bindings to eliminate contact between the sole and the AFD plate (which Marker insists in its install guide). I'd have no problem skiing on them with this issue, and neither does he, but Marker doesn't like it, and he's been leaving Vibram gunk all over the AFD plate.
2. Heavy - I know, it's an alpine binding with an extra plate underneath for adjustability, and I'm a Dynafit-loving AT goober, but these weigh an entire pound more than the Griffons. Maybe I'm spoiled, but it bugs me. They're marginally lighter than the Dukes.
3. Expensive for what you're getting. I'm thinking of just returning these and shelling out for some Dynafits (or making him buy resort boots and buying Griffons). Same price as the Dukes, minus a few ounces, without the touring functionality.
Pro: these share the same drill pattern as the Griffons, so if you change your mind, you don't have to drill again!
In sum, I guess I'm just a bit underwhelmed by the technology (and how bulky they are). I understand how much of a pain it is to make a binding that purportedly fits EVERYTHING, but feel like there ought to be a more elegant solution out there. Not really light enough to make them an easy sell over the Dukes, for all that they let you ride a smidgen closer to the ski when you're actually on them.
Is there any reason to get these over the Atomic Wardens?
I really want these bindings but I weigh...
I really want these bindings but I weigh 115 lbs. Is that a big deal?
Short answer: You should be ok.
Long answer: DIN is determined by more than just your weight - ski shops take into account your height, weight, age, and skier type (as well as boot size, to a certain degree) to determine what DIN your bindings will be set to (and any concerns you might have related to releasing or not releasing). That having been said, if you're a beginner skier with big feet (the bigger the boot, the lower the DIN because, well, physics), these probably aren't the right binding. I'm about the same weight, have tiny feet, ski pretty aggressively and ride somewhere between a 6.5-8 depending on the bindings.
When in doubt, check with your local ski shop - a tech can give you a pretty good idea of what DIN you'd ride.
I would like to use these with BOTH my AT...
I would like to use these with BOTH my AT boot (310mm BSL) and my downhill boot (317mm BSL). Is this possible? Is their room for small adjustments (+/- 1-2 cm) in the heel to accommodate varying BSL's?
Yes these would work great for what you want to do! The toe can adjust for either type of boot and there is some adjustment room for varying BSLs.
Does anyone have a spec on the exact BSL adjustment range of the Lord?
Thinking about getting a pair of these to...
Thinking about getting a pair of these to go on my Dynastar Legend 105s. Any thoughts?
The Dynastar Legend 105 should be a good matchup with the Marker Lord SP with the 110mm brakes or the Marker Jester in a 110mm.
I know these can work with an AT sole or...
I know these can work with an AT sole or regular din sole but I would like to use them with both my lange and my scarpa's, so my question is can I safely raise the toe piece my self or would I have to get the pro to do it and check the din every time I would switch boots?
There is actually a screw in front of the AFD that is removable with an allen Key. After the screw is removed there is a lever you pull which will release the toe piece from the binding. At that point you can slide the toe piece to the correct height, push the lever back in and replace the screw with the allen key.
Will these 110 brakes work on the 116 Rossi...
Will these 110 brakes work on the 116 Rossi Super 7s?
No, that will be too much to bend the brakes out.
If you are set on getting this binding, you can contact Marker directly to get some wider brakes to fit the skis.
Arthur Debowski: In response to your...
In response to your question to my question below, I have Tecnica Cochise Pro boots, with tech soles (not DIN soles). Are these ISO 9523 certified?
Yes the Tech soles form Technica are ISO 9523 certified. Here is the info from Tecnica:
DIN Sole- ISO 5355 rubberized heel pad on DIN footprints fits all alpine bindings and offers maximum grip on various surfaces
Tech Sole- ISO 9523 rubberized sole pad on Tech footprints fits all AT bindings and offers maximum grip on rock, ice, and snow
Can you please compare these with the...
Can you please compare these with the Salomon STH 2. Will I be able to use AT boots (with tech soles) on both? Are only the Lord's ISO compatible with both DIN soles and Tech soles, or are the STH2's ISO compatible with both as well?
Depends on what boots you have. The Lord will work with rubber AT soles and Alpine soles. The STH2 WTR will work only with Alpine soles or soles that are ISO 9523 certified, which does not include all AT soles. Full rockered rubber soles won't work in the STH2 WTR (like a Scarpa Mobe for example).
I have Tecnica Cochise Pro boots, with tech soles (not DIN soles). Are these ISO 9523 certified?
Is the mounting pattern the same as 2012/2013...
Is the mounting pattern the same as 2012/2013 Jester?
You are good to go. It's the same pattern as last years Jester.
Anyone know if there a 16 DIN version that...
Anyone know if there a 16 DIN version that still have the Alpine / AT sole adjustment? I want to use these with a CAST SIS&I system this season.
These only come in the 5-14 DIN version. You can use either lugged AT or standard ISO DIN boots in them.
I've got these ,they seem to work well. I am 200 lbs and have had no problem skiing these at ordinary settings. I can't imagine having a toe binding set at 16, you must be awesome!
eh, i'm alright. i have em at 13 right now and its fine. i kinda feel weird setting it all the way to the max, but realistically i only need them at 12 or 13.
Brian, what did you end up doing for your CAST SI&I setup? I'm really interested in getting it on a pair of BD Zealots.
Gabe I ended up getting DPS Wailer 99s with Lords and CAST SI&I plates. I alternate between Lange Comp Prop 120 for inbounds and BD Factor 130 for touring. The micro adjust in the heel allows for a decent amount of travel to accommodate different BSLs and the AFD adjustment in the front is way superior to the way you have to do it on other Royal Family bindings. Cranking the worm screw to constantly adjust the AFD eventually strips it. No fun. The CAST SI&I is clunky compared to a pure tech binding, I had a terrifing double eject fiasco almost two years ago now, so I see it as my only choice for the time being. I'm actually about to get another set of Lords and CAST Plates for a set a Wailer 112 RPCs. If my Zealots werent a couple years old and already drilled with DynaDuke plates I'd probably have just plopped my CAST system on the Zealots. Zealots rock, I think i'll always want them for big days at the resort.
I threw my hat in the CAST ring as well this season. I've got Marker Lords mounted on the CAST plates on a pair of 193cm Atomic Bent Chetlers and I ski in a pair of Scarpa Maestrale AT boots. The Lords work ok with my Maestrales. As Susan mentioned above, the soles on the Maestrales have a lot of rocker to them so it isn't possible to get the AFD of a Lord adjusted low enough to see light between the boot sole and the AFD. That being said, I've double ejected and didn't blow my knees apart (or feel like I was about to). I mounted my setup at home, so I'm not sure what a ski shop would have to say about signing off on a release test with this boot/binding combo.
In terms of the CAST system, it's pretty damn clunky and doesn't save you nearly as much weight as just going for Dynafits. I usually tour on a full Dynafit setup except for the rowdiest days. That being said, if you're set on using the CAST system and you have AT boots, the Marker Lord is the best option out there right now.