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Take on steeper terrain with the Raven.
- Slider leash included
- Classic design ideal for any mountaineering situation
- Flat head provides a comfortable hand rest
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- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Solid axe for the big mountain ski ninja! Although most people after watching 'Into Thin Air' think these things are walking sticks, they actually serve many purposes. The many uses of the ice axe can be compared to that of the Samurai sword. Years of experience prove valuable and in the right hands can get you out of any situation.
I like to slip the axe in between my backpack and the flat of my back as I descend a face. This makes for quick unattached access for when shit gets hairy. One would assume if you feel the need to ski the face with the axe in your hand, you are out of your element and need to go home and practice. Maybe next year young grasshopper.
I have never had an issues plunging the gripped handle into snow. I find if the snow is so incredibly shitty that you can't penetrate an ice axe of doom into it, I wouldn't be skiing there anyways. Besides, just use the other end duh, you know, the end with the ICE AXE on it!
I do not always use the leash and often times leave it at home. For skiing, you typically don't need it. We aren't hanging from a cliff, we are jumping off the cliffs. However, every situation requires the right tools and it's best to have the leash for those days you might drop your sword, but don't, don't drop your sword. We've all seen what happens when a samurai drops his sword.
First In Hand For Mountaineering
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Been using BD Raven for the last 5 years and love it. They're great with comfort on your grip. I've used a few others but always ended up with my trusty Raven when it really counts.
Many ask about sizing and this generally depends on what type of terrain you're using it for. I'm 6' and use a 65 for mountaineering and on low angle routes I pull out one of my BD adjustable poles along with the 65. I also have the shorter 55 for more extreme routes that may require me to double axe it with a tech axe. For Backcountry skiing I'd chose a shorter 55 as it would tend to give me less hang ups when in tight spots.
The ice axe leash works well and one that I love, but it is also one that some guides will ask you to remove.
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
I finally got the chance to use it while climbing Mt. Hood. It was just the right weight that it wasn't too light or too heavy.
Pretty cool axe
I used this axe for some steep snow, and very very easy mixed climbing up some coulior's. nice and light!
I enjoy using this axe for winter hikes. I have no real complaints about it. Like all Black Diamond gear, its all reliable.
Diamond In the Rough
I have the 65.Great feel and very reliable axe. Great in cane and grip is comfy, not that that matters cus you ll more likely have gloves on. Only reason gave it 4 stars is because Black Dimond makes lighter axes. It is a bit heavy. but very very good axe for under 100 bucks
Black Diamond Raven Ice Axe with Grip
Excellent product. Value for money. I used this ice axe on my Mt. Elbrus climb in July 2010. While Elbrus does not really require ice axe skills, I used this since I went with one ski pole and an ice axe. I found this combo quite effective and was able to use the axe quite efficiently. Great balance and well designed/made product. Highly recommend this.
good axe for trekking/climbing in tien shan
i had my last axe stolen and trying to save some money i had to buy low cost axe ,the raven with grip is good for me ,i climb to 4350 metres in tien shan mountains kazak on fairly steep snow and rocky scree ridges,it has good weight balance,grips stays in my hand ,not down the hill and pick cuts steps very well,for self arrest i used it once and stopped me dead solid before going over the cliff,if u looking for a more technical axe go for the more expensive models but if u need general axe for hikking and a little light alpine climbing ,this works i am damn happy with this axe.
This is a solid axe for trekking and for some reasonable mountaineering as well. It's sturdy as all get out, and though I've never had to use the grip in a self-arrest situation, it is pretty nice if you have to start swinging the axe, as is the leash. They both save some juice on those long pitches of rime. That said, as a tool rather than an axe, it leaves something to be desired, but for most cascade routes, combining one of these with a BD Venom hammer will do you right. The only real downside is that its a few ounces heavier than some other axes, and while it's not that much alone, these things do add up.
Versatile and reliable piolet
I love my Black Diamond Raven. I've used it for glacier travel in the Cascades as well as winter mountaineering in the White Mountains and the Catskills. Strong, lightweight, and comfortable -- I look forward to many more trips with this tool. Check out the axe and pick protectors from Black Diamond to keep your axe from shredding your belay jacket when packed in your luggage...
I purchased the Black Diamond Raven Ice Ax for my advendtures in the backcountry of Sawtooth National Forest in Idaho. I purchased the 75cm ice ax and I have to say for the length, it is very light weight and has a very comfortable balance when swinging into the ice. Great product and I would reccomend this ax to anyone.
What Size should I get?
So for a versatile size, measure the distance between the tip of your middle finger while at your side and the malleolus of your ankle. This will provide the most versatile size for you.
If you intend to be on steeper terrain mostly, then you can use a shorter axe, if you are going to be on more moderate flatter terrain then a longer axe will suit you better.
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Is the rubber grip removable? I like the...
Is the rubber grip removable? I like the leash and the added grip for cutting, but I imagine it's a pain for shallow probes.
No, that's not really removable; but is actually very low profile. Doesn't really get hung up that much when probing.
You could maybe cut it off, but the axe shaft is recessed under the grip. I'd think this would be more of a pain than the grip would ever be.
Ohhh, almost forgot... Or just go with the Ravin (no-grip) and add a leash.
Write your question here... i am a adult...
Write your question here... i am a adult male 6 ft tall what should ideal length of ice axe be for my size?
It really depends on your ratio of torso to legs. I'm 6'4 and the 70 cm works great for me and I'd guess you'd be fine at 65 cm. Generally, measure from the tip of your middle finger when its extended at your side to the ground and thats the length you should shoot for! I'd probably go shorter if you're in between sizes too - less weight and easier to plunge over and over and over again.
Your intent with the axe is also a factor. If you'll be skiing / boarding, be aware that shorter axes are generally better suited for your uses. You want something on the shorter side that's easier to swing on the steeps where you'll be relying on it, and also won't stick too far up past your pack to get snagged up while riding / skiing. 50 - 65 should be fine, depending on height.
the sizes for the axe is that campaired...
the sizes for the axe is that campaired with hight of the user... how does the sizing work
A general rule of thumb is to stand up straight, relax your arms at your sides and measure form the tip of your middle finger to the ground. I'd round down to the nearest 5 cm increment. This will of course vary depending on what you're climbing. Steeper you usually go shorter. For reference, I'm 6'4 and use a 70cm axe.
No, this is wrong. A 6'4" guy using that measurement would have about an 80cm axe which is HUGE.
The length of the axe is primarily based on what you are climbing and secondarily your height.
I'm 5'10 and use a 60cm combined with a single ski pole for lower angled slopes.
Just remember an ice axe is not a walking stick and should not be sized as such. I'd rent one on your first couple outing to get an idea what works best for you.
Recommended sizing guidelines are: 55 and shorter use a 55cm axe;
56 to 59 use a 60cm axe; 59-61 use a 65cm axe; over 61 use a