I LOVE THE REALTREE CAMO, I am a 37-38 and even the XXL was very snug but it eventually worked when I took out the inner liner. I love these pants nonetheless and I just gotta trim down my buddah belly and I will be right as rain!

This is/was the third pair of the Smarty Cargos I have purchased and didn't even get to wear them on the hill. These run small, slim, or hipster, whatever the hell you want to call it. As I said, this is the third pair I have purchased and always have worn a medium, so to my fault, I did not go to a store and try them on. I ordered what I thought was the same size and same product. Had I known 686 changed the fit on these, I might not have gotten them at all. (And I will be letting 686 know my opinion as well.) In years past, the medium had plenty of room in the butt, thigh, and leg. Now barely at all. My boxers rode up trying to put them on. The fit on these has been changed to accommodate skinny jean wearing losers and it sucks. I am exchanging the medium for a large in hopes that they will have a looser fit, but being 5'8" the length may become an issue. Here's hoping that the large fits, because I love(d?) these pants and didn't even look at competitors. Updated, the large are just as slim. Returned both pairs for refund.

I don't know what happened but I guess reg fit pants means slim fit hipster style. Liner is comfy and nice to wear as sweats when you're done shredding the slopes but the fit kind of bums me out.

These were a Christmas gift that went over great...They have already went skiing and were a hit. They have plenty of pockets and are comfortable and adjustable. They were warm and great for the slopes.

Why the changes 686?!?! I have three pairs from previous years...I'm bummed!!!

Here's the deal:

1.) FABRIC, thinner than pervious years, less burly, not as water proof. Was out riding in some wet conditions...damp and bled through.
2.) FIT, I am a XL I like the XXL for the room...HIPSTER CUT NOW!
3.) HEAL CUFF LINER, not reinforced like previous years.

If you're gonna change something make it better...don't skimp!

These are well made and the liner is pretty awesome as well. I could not fit in to the XXL version as they seem to be a "slim" style. 6'3" 260lbs did not work well in these pants for me. The waist was not a problem but there was not enough room in the thighs. They had a skinny jean feel to them for me.

I love these pants. I am on my third pair and unless I need some 3L / Gore-tex gear, I will continue to buy these. They are very comfortable and being a size 36 in shorts and jeans, this season I upped to the XL version. While I haven't used them snowboarding yet, I know the previous seasons pants have worn well and are durable. They are perfect without long underwear to -5f. I actually haven't had them colder than that, but I haven't ever been cold in them. Some chair rides I have noticed a bit of cold around the behind, but as soon as I'm riding, that cold sensation is gone. The liners are nice to wear around the room and maybe the bar downstairs, but I wouldn't wear them out.

Since I have both the larges and XL's, I thought I could help out other people like me. I am built more like a football player than a long distance runner, I'm in the gym 5 days a week and I don't skip leg day. So, being a 36 put me on the end of one size and the beginning of another. The Larges are almost perfect, just a little tight, not uncomfortable for bending over to strap on my bindings, but I still can feel the tightness. Now, the XLs on the hand, are obviously a bit baggier but they don't seem like they are too big to where I'll need a belt. The velcro straps should be enough, but only time will tell.

Now the all important question, would I stick to the XL or get L's next time and I really don't have an answer for that. I just know that I will definitely get these again. But, I will definitely snag a pair of these for my gf. One last thing, be careful at the urinal, I almost dipped the string of the liners in it once. That close call never happened again.

These pants are great! They are very comfy and look sick! They are very warm and I would totally recommend these!

These pants of a loose baggy fit. Plenty of pockets and storage. They are tough enough to handle the mountain grind. I spent a lot of time in some pretty bad weather this season. The waterproofing never failed, I'll need to pick up some tech wash next season. I used the sizing chart and it worked out perfectly. I got them a little big but that wasn't an issue with the adjustable waist straps.

First purchase of snowboard pants in a while (upgraded gear this season), love the fit, very comfortable, not super baggy, very waterproof and warm. Good value.

I own a black pair and a khaki pair as my main skiing and boarding pants. Very comfortable (relaxed fit), warm as a single shell layer and toasty on the lift in single digits with windchill with the liner in. Good venting on warmer days. Tons of pockets to stash snacks and other stuff. Velcro and tie cord combo keep them up well. Minor downsides are the weight and the thigh pocket liner needs to be a bit more rugged (easily torn by keys or other objects). Not really a 3in1 because I can't imagine using the fleece liner on its own.

So this is my SECOND pair of 686 Smarty 3 in 1 pants. This time I got the Duck Pincord in Large. I will back up a bit and say I also bought the Army Texture Smarty Cargos in Large from BC 2 seasons ago, which are my all time favorite snow pants of all time, and I have owned quite a few! I purchased these from Backcountry because BC is second to none with fast shipping and customer service. I wanted a second pair to use at work (I work in Powersports) due to the fact I am out in the snow and wet all the time, and didnt want to ruin my Army Texture 686 pants. That being said, here is my 2 cents.......

I did not see these in person. I only went off the BC site and the 686 site. I thought the Duck Pincord would actually be a soft corduroy fabric. It appeared to be in close up pictures on the 686 site. IT IS NOT. My bad. Although it looks like it from a distance, it is actually smooth material like any snow pant. I was disappointed, but not enough to return them. I specifically got the brown in case I rubbed up against something, or got dirty. The Army Texture IS a soft texture fabric, which is really sturdy. 686 if you are listening, bring back the texture!

Now the bigger downsides. My Army pants have two buttons above the zipper fly, along with velcro to hold it securely. Although the 686 pictures for THESE pants show the velcro, the pair I received DID NOT have it! AND, only one button to secure above the fly. I have to wear a belt to feel like the pants wont fall down. Hmmmmmm.

Although I love 686 added cordura hem reinforcement to the back cuff, the inseam on these pants are shorter than my original ones. Both pants are the same exact size, but these do not hang to the bottom of my boot which I like. And they changed the ghetto slit from the inside of the leg to the outside. I liked it better on the inside.

My last gripe is the inside material on the outer shell. On the original it is a beefy thick material. On these it is a chincy thin ripstop. No biggie, but a difference.

So overall, it seems 686 dropped the ball a bit. New versions of clothing should be an improvement over the previous design. I wonder if they were bought out or switched manufacturing processes and/or facilities.

I will say I do like the design of the 686 Smarty Cargo, they look good, these from a short distance or more. They are very warm. They block snow. And I still have yet to get wet. They do their job. So I like them enough to live with the shortcomings. But 686, if you are listening, bring back the ones from 2 seasons ago!