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UNBELEIVABLE in deepest powder. You can jump off a pillow and dive into the next pillow and these skiis POP right up and out of the deep pile. They jump out like they are being ejected by the snow! Just can't nose dive them even if you try.
Best thing is they make 6" of pow feel like 12". You can float over the bottoem hardpack on less powder.
Of course they are WORK to turn on groomers and can be painfull when the surface is hard, especially in hard bumps. Small price to pay for AWESOME powder performance.
I LOVE THEM!!!
Ridiculous times to be had
This are my favorite skis ever. You can rip like hell, they don't know what it means to slow down. Optimal to bust out Super G Carves on a wide open bowl -- for that, they can't be beat, period. Invincible in the powder - you can't bury these tips - meaning you can huck off of anything. Took my skiing to a whole new level.
Way better than anticipated on groomers -- a bit awkward underfoot until you get used to them though. Good in trees. Not my top pick for a day dodging branches though, as they are not particularly agile at lower speeds.
Mounted with a pair of dukes (for side country pursuits). A bit too heavy for me to consider doing serious touring on.
And, as an added bonus, I have never been hit on by as many cute guys on the chair lift... great conversation fodder.
Has anyone out there skied telemark with...
Has anyone out there skied telemark with Kuro? I am keen on buying a really fat pair for those deep days but I am not sure how the reverse camber will work with telemark.
My brother has some 135s under foot with teles and he loves them. They are the blue house that were zero camber. It is not as reverse camber as these, but man he kills it out there even when he is not in the pow.
Any thoughts on mounting 1cm back from the...
Any thoughts on mounting 1cm back from the centre boot mark on the Kuro 185? Im 6'1, 93kg (14 3/4 stone) and used to skiing a bigger ski (190 Gotama)
I wouldn't go any further back the -1 cm. I have a couple of friends who are 6'4" and mounted the ski -2 and -3 because they were afraid the ski would be too short. After skiing them, they remounted to the boot center recommendation. The reason: the center or the ski is the stiff part of the ski. The tail is soft and tapered. The result of moving the mounting point back was a lot of wheelies. The ski floats high enough in the snow that you don't have to worry about the shorter length.
Sochi, Russia - Freeride World Tour
The Kuro is ski choice for competition
Thanks for the feedback - one more (combo)...
Thanks for the feedback - one more (combo) question.How does the Kuro differ from the Chopsticks? Are the chopsticks more of a trick and switch ski? (I never ride switch except for on the greens with my kids)
Yeah, I guess you could think of the Chopstick as a backcountry jib ski that will have more pop off jumps and cliff drops as well as riding better switch. The Kuro is more of a balanced all around BC/powder stick.
I'm 6'2" 240# aggressive skiier(no tricks...
I'm 6'2" 240# aggressive skiier(no tricks or big air). Since moving to the Tahoe area a couple of years ago I added a pair of 191 Mantra's for the last couple of seasons which have helped me adjust to Sierra powder (or powder at all coming from the east coast). Looking to increase the quiver for deep days.How would the Kuro's compare to the Mantras on a Kirkwood Area powder day? Are the Kuro's better suited to wide open bowls rather than tight spaces like trees and chutes?Or would I be better off splitting the difference with a Katana?
The Kuro is a true all-mountain deep day ski. It is going to have a softer flex and better float than your mantra.The Katana will fall somewhere in the middle in terms of flex and float.If you already have the mantra, and knowing how well it handles those cruddy days and days where you are on 6 inches of fresh or less, I would say get the Kuro. You will be glad you did when you get those epic 20+ days.
Silly in pow, more versatile than you'd expect
About me: 5'-10", 150lbs. Ski Volkl Mantras with old Freeride bindings most of the time.
Got my hands on a pair of 185's w/ Freeride Plus bindings for this season. Yesterday I took them out at Vail which had gotten 12" overnight. The comments in the lift lines were amusing and I couldn't help but laugh when the liftie couldn't get them in the ski rack on the gondola cabin.
First impression was how (relatively) easy they were to turn on the groomed cat track on the way to the goods. I expected to have to fight the skis, but all I had to do was put them on edge (which is a bit more difficult than with normal skis, but not much). Then I hit the good stuff and I didn't stop smiling for the rest of the day.
The Kuro's are so fast in deep powder it can be scary if you're not used to it. Making turns is easy. It almost feels like carving on groomers, just put the ski on its edge and let it work. I felt the bottom of 12" once or twice with my tails, but other than that, it could have been 12 feet.
Trees were fun, even tight trees, although as a general rule the slower you go the harder it is to turn. Don't stop if you can avoid it, the first turn is always the hardest so you might have trouble re-starting in the trees without bouncing off one or two. If your friends haven't already disowned you for dropping that much coin on a (second, third, whatever) pair of skis, they'll probably understand when you don't stop or slow down for them. If they're not skiing something similarly wide, there's now way they'll keep up.
I was worried about how they would feel on chopped up stuff when bumps were just starting to form and not surprisingly they took more work there, but my 'normal' skis are Volkl Mantra 170's, so it is understandable. They were by no means 'uncontrollable' and it probably didn't help that my legs were tired (although much less tired than they would have been on smaller skis on such a deep day). They are fast and can get away from you if you're not on top of them, but I feel like that is a trait of Volkls in general as much as the Kuro specifically. I was concerned that they would be so powder-specific that they would be a menace on the front side and therefore unusable in the resort. They actually turned out to be a lot of fun to carve on easy groomers. I was happy that I felt comfortable heading down the chopped up crap on the front side after skiing the back bowls all day. Now I know I can get a lot more days out of them instead of just backcountry and Silverton days.
Bottom line, if you can have a 2-ski quiver, this is your fatboy.
Will it work at all without deep powder?
Will it work at all without deep powder?
It will work, but you'd be better off getting something else if you want to spend a good amount of your time on groomed. With these skis you've got a snowboard strapped to each foot! It will make it harder to turn/hold an angle because you have to put much more force since the edge is placed so far away from your foot. For sure if these are your primary skis and you are somewhat new to the sport, go with something different.I have skied these in 6-8 inches of powder and had a great time, but Alex is right, this is a specialty ski - make sure you have something else.
132cm underfoot? I thought the Prophet 130mm were wide...
How heavy are these skis? Worth taking...
How heavy are these skis? Worth taking bc?
Too heavy for anything but a 15-30 minute sidecountry hike. This is a burly ski.
Sickest Ski Ever!
It took Volkl a little while to come out with a reverse camber ski, but it was worth the wait. The Kuro will make a two inch day feel like a six inch day. It is incredibly stable especially at high speeds. And you won't look like a fool on the groomers because it is not floppy like a lot of the reverse camber skis. You will find yourself arching past all your friends on the Pontoons. The Kuro likes to go fast and is a lot of work to throw around at slower speeds, but who wants to go slow anyway. My friends and I always finish the day with a friendly race down the Hobacks in Jackson. It was always a toss up who would win, until I the Kuro. Now my friend Bob says, "I don't want to race if Jess is going to use her cheater skis."
Not too fat
I got this ski last March and so had it through the epic spring we had in Utah. I skied this numerous times at Alta, Snowbird and The Canyons sidecountry. The beauty of this ski is multifold. The super wide tip displaces so much snow, that every turn is a face shot (and I am 6'1") - which is nice. This distinguishes the Kuro from the Sumo - that ski just kept you on the surface - so much so that at times it felt like you might as well have been skiing a groomer. This ski is much different from the Sumo. It also makes those days were there is only 6-8 inches enjoyable because you are quickly on top of the surface that existed before the storm - your experience is much different from (and better) than that of those even on a 100 plus underfoot conventional fat ski. And, when you have the deep untracked powder this ski is truly designed for - well then it gets ridiculously fun. You won't ski powder this fast with this much control,and so little quad burn. Just be ready with a witty rejoinder or two when the liftline comments start about how fat these are!