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Rips if you can ski it
I'm 6'5" 195lbs expert, racer trained freeskier and I have a pair of 183cm's
I wish I had the 190's but the 183's make good short turns and can go fast they just jump around at 40mph and I bet the 190's wouldn't.
These skis are sweet. I'm mounted at the recommended boot center, which looks pretty far back when I look at the skis, but it makes it so I can ski over the center of my foot and still have plenty of ski in front of me for float in the powder. The katanas are pretty wide, when I'm trying to make fast turns over cut up crud they don't cut through it like race skis, but If I hold stable power to them they're damp enough to hold the line. Basically they're an awesome all-around off piste ski. they have too much side cut and camber to be a true powder ski, and they're too wide to be a cut up resort run crusher. So naturally, if you can ski them, you can rip both without fear of them letting you down in a turn. Don't hit rocks though, I took a mild hit to an edge and shattered a short section of sidewall under my heelpiece.
Katana 190 vs. Mantra 191
6'2" 220 30+yrs....
Katana 190 vs. Mantra 191
6'2" 220 30+yrs. of skiing. Ride Squaw and Kirkwood in variable conditions. Want a stiff board to plow through crud, powder. Like to go fast. Been on Prophet 100s for 3 years and loved 'em, but they always seemed a tad too soft. Recommendations?
I'd get on the Mantra if you liked the Prophet 100 and just wanted something stiffer. The Katana is a big departure from the Prophet that you already like. It's much fatter and much stiffer. The Mantra is more similar in shape to your Lines, albeit with a longer turn radius and the same metal construction as the Katana. Hope this helps!
Excellent Power Day Ski
Totally love these skis on a powder day. Haven't skied them in anything other than the occasional deep day at Mammoth when my visits coincide with a nice fat storm, but they are awesome performers in the deep stuff. So can't speak to groomers (what are those?) or even crud. But can't go wrong if you're looking for a solid powder ski.
Soft snow shredders!
Pros: With the massive 111mm underfoot, slight reverse camber, and reduced tail size, these skis are unstoppable on anything soft! They float high in powder, smear and slash pretty well, and bust trough any type of crud. These things even carve amazingly well on soft groomers! I would find any excuse to ride these skis.
Cons: The only conditions I wouldn't use these on are icy or hard pack. They suck. Can't keep an edge. Also they are not durable. I skied these 10 times (5 just touring) and the top sheet started peeling off, the edges cracked out in two separate spots, and the powder channels started chipping out. I took excellent care of these skis and yet they couldn't hold up. Lame.
Excellent ski for soft snow, but doesn't stand up to much.
Mounting: If you are a hardcore big mountain only skier, then the standard mounting marker is for you. If you do this, the ski has NO TAIL. For more of a freeride ski mount it 4-6cm forward.
These are hands down the best all round ski's I've ever ridden!! They are very fast, but can pivot on a dime in tight trees with softer snow. They are much more versatile than they look for their width, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy these as a one ski quiver in the west or pnw. I have the 190's at 6'1'', 210 lbs.
great big day ski
theses things rip when there is some snow on the ground. i would not recommend them as an everyday ski nor even consider telling someone that sticks to groomers and the reg. inbounds runs to consider them. i checked them out when silver mtn id got 30' and needed something to keep me on top of the pow. they feel huge at first but after a couple runs i got adjusted and got some props on the tracks i made on them. the tails are slightly reverse camber and dove tailed so it makes it easier to ski switch and really just turn in general. they float when needed and blasted through the crud later in the day. if you are looking for a ski that can handle its own in the freshies and off the groomers check this mammajamma out. if you like the mantra, check out the katana on a freshies day and you wont be disappointed. however, if you dont want to put a little work into commanding this beast, dont bother....its not for the little guys or the S turn stylist. this b*tch aint no joke. super solid in some new snow but a little sluggish on groomers and lame terrain.
I bought these for my 62 year old father, in a 183. He skis like a typical person of his age, quite well, but cautiously, no drops or anything over about 40 degrees. In ten days on them he's had a delamination, bent both skis, and damaged the sidewall. Meanwhile I regularly nail rocks on my obsetheds, and skied my hellbents over about 2 feet of exposed rock at solitude and have had almost no damage. It would behoove you to avoid these skis. Thank god backcountry is so awesome about warranty replacements.
Katanas 176 will be ok for me if my height...
Katanas 176 will be ok for me if my height is 174 cm?
Yeah, depending on how much you weight and how aggressive you ski. I doubt that there would be any problems anyway.
Any Tele experience on these? I looked...
Any Tele experience on these? I looked at TGR, not very helpful for figuring out how to mount. These will be a crud/powder quiver ski, mounted with Bishops. If helpful, I usually ski neutral or -1 on my Hippys. thanks!
have seen a few knee droppers riding these. I've got em mounted with Dukes and went with the standard boot center marked at the factory. Skiied 3 ft at steamboat two weeks ago and was blown away. never came close to hitting bottom. Levitation homes. But anyway, The mount point does put the boots way towards the tail, but I think that's the point. Get those tips floating above and drop the channel tail. I know I had no problems with tip dive like my scratch BC's which haave supermanned me in pow on a number of occasions.
I have heard and seen that these skis are...
I have heard and seen that these skis are great, but have also seen a lot of reviews saying that the quality is subpar including a very fragile base, delaminating topsheets, cracked sidewalls. How much truth is there to this? Also, how do these perform out east in trees. I am a big skier and thinking the 190's, but dont want something that i cant get around.
I just answered this yesterday, but maybe some volkl lover got rid of it, Yes volkl has had some major quility issues in the last 2 years on the katana,goat,wall and some other models. delaminating cores,snapping on minor drops, binding pullouts, they tried to go with a lighter core and it has not worked to well, there are to many other good skis out there then to chance buying these.
How much does a 190cm Volkl Katana...
How much does a 190cm Volkl Katana weigh?
Can't tell you about 190's, but 184's weigh 9lbs 11oz.
Best Powder and All Around Ski
I am 6'2" and 240lbs, and these skis are amazing in deep powder and the groomers back to the lift. I have skiing on these for two seasons and they have been, the best overall ski I have used in years. I have a pair "06" Mantras that have since been put away in favor of the Katanas. I put Marker Baron's on these and with some skins, have been skining out tot the backcountry at Alta, and Jackson Hole for some real deep powder. Get a pair and jump in.
The finest skis crafted by the hand of man
I have been riding the Gotamas for the last two years and thought they were perfect. I found these in a shop and was amazed at how good they looked. They are the best looking skis I have ever seen. I love how you can see the titanium through the top and bottom sheets, and the clear sidewalls with the honey comb pattern look sweet. But it is not about how it looks. I am 5'11" 180 lbs and I got the 190, they do seem to ski a little bit short because of the way Volkl measures length and also because of the very subtle rocker. I would recommend you get them a little bit taller than yourself because the extra length makes them more stable when you are just straight lining it and the slight camber keeps them easy to manage. This is not a good ski for beginners, but if you have some good technique then they will really let you charge. I like the dual titanium construction because it makes them really stable at high speeds, and provide a super stable landing. I have not skid the pow yet but I am sure they will perform even better than my Gotamas because they are fatter and have the reverse camber. Over all these are superior to the Gotamas.
197 almost as long as back in the day
And I love the old school, these are big mountain killers that dont play by the new reverse camber rules, they are great all around as well as in the pow pow.
There is no doubt that this is a deep powder ski that you will also love in only 4 inches of snow. It is very easy to initiate a turn on these skis because this was Volkl's first foray into a "reverse" camber ski, the most noticeable aspect being the flat tip. It also completely destroys any crud or cut up powder you encounter. While I agree this ski works on the groomers, that is obviously not their preferred venue. Deep snow is where this snow excels. But, if budget constraints limit you to a powder ski primarily, this will get you through the dry spells better than many other "pure" powder skis. The Katana is also very versatile for a big ski - you can ski tight trees like you find in Eagles nest at Alta, or you can ski the the Cirque at Snowbird in three turns - your choice - both will be really fun on this ski.
I was very surprised with how versitile this ski is in all types of snow conditions. I bought the ski for PNW powder,and deep crud. I waited for the right snow conditions. Boy was I disappointed I hadn't taken my Katanas out sooner. They were good on the groomed, very stable in powder and crud and even made it through soft bumps fine.
sorry ole boy but i could not understand a word of what you wrote. Care to explain? Pip Bin
how is the powder channel for skins??? I...
how is the powder channel for skins??? I have some dukes and was thinking about the Katana for my touring set up but am not sure how the powder channel will hold up.
The powder channel can get easily beat up if you are not careful. Problems come mainly from banging or dragging them through places like the tram line at the Bird. I am sure the tail would work fine with skins - it would get a little scratched up, but nothing major. The bigger concern might be the weight of the ski for touring - it is a beefy ski, which makes it great, but would make for a long day if you are planning on big tours. Especially with a Duke.
I tour with the 183's with Barons. It is a great setup that didn't seem too heavy for me - I even rando raced with it (not advised) and had a lot of fun. I have the double ring skins from ClimbingSkinsDirect.com and they worked perfectly. The ring on the tail did leave some indentations, but it didn't affect it that much. For me, the pain of a little added weight on the ascent is nothing in comparison to the benefits on the descent. Heavenly.
Can anyone confirm the actual length of...
Can anyone confirm the actual length of these skis? What is the true length of the 190 and 183 ?
I skied a 183 Gotama for years and just got a pair of the 190 Katanas. I feel they ski more like a 185 - they ski short and there is no problem shooting the back-end out to shed some speed.
True length of "184 cm" is 179 cm (measured tip-to-tip)
Sick Crud Buster/Powder Ski!
This ski is sick! It is great in the powder. Where it really accelerates, and I mean you will be flying past your friends, is the day after a storm. It is incredibly damp and will plow through any chopped up snow or crud. It is pretty good on the groomers/ice, but that's not what it is designed for.
FYI - If you take to the shop, warn them about the powder channel, it will melt.