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Currently ski 176 Atomic Snoops and and...
Currently ski 176 Atomic Snoops and and will be skiing trees, bumps, and pow, mostly in CO and PNW. Looking for a ski that will handle anything except the very hard hard-pack. I ski anything, but doesn't always look pretty. I'm considering buying these but not sure if the 178 will be long enough. Should I try and find a 186 on a different site or go with the 178 here? Also considering Kung Fujas, and Salomon Shoguns or Czars. Suggestions? 5' 9" 165 lbs.
Gotamas aren't very awesome in the bumps, but they are grat tree skiis and always awesome in powderr, I would go for the 178 but thats my opinion. The shogns are a very similar ski, but of all those you listed I would Go for the kung fujas or the czars...
Wish these skied like the 05 Gotama's with the quarterpipe tail. Call me when they are made in Germany again.
Quality SlackCountry Option
Having put a full year (2010-2011) season on the Gotama, I can honestly say this ski is really good at what it is designed to do. It really performs just as Volkl intends for it to do. Volkl does a great job of developing skis for different types of skiing and terrain and the Gotama fits the bill as a great Side/SlackCountry option. It is a great ski to have for trips out west, and it is very good ski to still use back East in Vermont. It provides enough float for powder days, but I am still able to get on edge for days when I am searching around for leftovers.
I am 6'1 205, and I ski the 186...........I have Marker Schizo 110's..........and am extremely satisfied with my current set up. I plan on keeping the same set for the 2011-2012 season which will include 3 trips to UT and 1 to CO.
What climbing skins have been working for...
What climbing skins have been working for people on these skis?
I have G3's On a pair of Chopsticks (bigger fatter volkls) and the only problem i had was the tails kept falling off. BUT never fear, G3 makes a twin tip adapter. http://www.backcountry.com/g3-twin-tip-connector-kit With these babys i never have to worry. I'm not sure if BD has a similar type of thing. One last thing. if you are trying to cut down on weight BD makes the 'tractor skin' which has nylon running down the center of the skin to cut down on material. I dont have these but it would be nice. A pair of skins for fat skis really start to add up!
Do I get a 186 or 194? I am 63 220lbs,...
Do I get a 186 or 194? I am 63 220lbs, advanced and aggressive. I currently ski on Atomic Beta EX 195. They are great all over the resort. I am looking to go back county with a full AT set up. I plan to do about 6 trips a year in the back country and the rest of the year will be at resorts.
What length is right for me? Should I consider other skis instead of Gotama?
I would go for the 194 - given your specs
I agree, 194 unless you ski tight trees a lot. Performance wise you won't notice a huge difference between the 186 and the 194. I'm 205 and 5'11" and ski the 186 but have demo'd the 194. Didn't feel much different. Both rock!
Fun! Fun! Fun!
Me: 6'2", 215 lbs, advanced skier
Skis: Gotama 2010/11, 186cm
First day on the Gotamas today in cold spring conditions. Off trail, there was about 5" of heavy crust - normally not worth skiing because it's difficult to turn in and makes you lurch as resistance changes as you break up and down through the crust.
The Gotamas handled the conditions superbly and actually made skiing 5" of nasty crust very fun. I didn't have to work the skis hard or change my technique for the most part. Amazingly easy to initiate turns. Opened up huge sections of the mountain to me that I usually would not have bothered with in these conditions. It would only be a slight exaggeration to say that the Gotamas turned crust to powder.
As for groomed runs, the Gotamas were surprisingly capable. The snow was moderately hard (for Utah) at the top of the mountain due to the colder temperatures. I skied in a conventional stance for carving and . . . just skied. Again, I didn't have have adjust my technique or balance point or work the edges. The Gotamas were very nimble for a ski that's 106 under foot. Very easy to initiate turns and surprisingly quick edge to edge.
I didn't test the speed limit of these skis on the groomed runs, but I suspect the reverse camber will place limitations on the top speed. No metal sheets in this year's model, either (though there is a sheet of carbon), so I imagine you're going to get some chatter if you ski very fast on the groomers. Also, if you run the skis perfectly flat on their bases at speed, they will get a little squirly on you. As noted, however, it doesn't take much to get them on edge. Once they're on edge, they behave very nicely.
I can't wait to try the Gotamas in powder and chop.
Caveat: I have limited experience with skis in 90cm+ range. I have a pair of Mantras (96cm) that I've really liked but have not tried the Rossi S7, the Chet Bentlys, or the numerous other new-breed powder skis that are suppossed to ski well on piste.
Looking for a one-quiver westener that...
Looking for a one-quiver westener that doesn´t get me killed in the groomers or icy steeps. I´m an intermediate/advanced guy who skis 40-50 days a year. 5'7 and 130 pounds. Like backcountry, pow, trees, chutes and some park and groomers.
These are a great ski for what you are looking for but there are plenty of cheaper skis that will give you the same experience. Take a look at the Line Prophet 90s or 100s those are solid skis
How are these skis for touring? I am looking...
How are these skis for touring? I am looking at the new backcountry version of this ski for 2011-2012 and was concerned about the elp shape for steeper established skin tracks. Any thoughts?
I am a primarily east coast skier, advanced,...
I am a primarily east coast skier, advanced, just off of the FIS race circuit and I was wondering how these will handle on east coast conditions mixed with powder. I am 5'10 and 175. I will be skiing mostly at Stowe next year, and was also wondering what size I should go for. Thanks.
If you go with this ski, go for the 178. If you were skiing out west in deeper and better snow, I'd say the 186 would do you well. However, with the trees and crud, I believe you'll be happier with a shorter length. That being said, you might also want to consider the Volkl Mantra. Very similar to this ski, but slightly skinnier, bigger sidecut with a smaller turning radius that is a nearly perfect ski 90% of the time. Sure it doesn't have the rocker, but you're a good skier and should do just fine without, especially with the amount of powder days you see out east - no offense intended.
Volkl Gotamas almost do it all
Ok here are the basics first: I'm 5'8" and 170ish lbs. I have a pair of 178's with Marker Baron bindings. I only used these for touring a few times, but put the Barons on just in case. For the most part, these skis were my primary inbounds and sidecountry set up for the season. I'm a type 3 skier and primarily ski Snowbird/Alta/Canyons in Utah.
The 2010/11 Gotamas were the first Volkls that I've ever owned. From a construction and durability standpoint, they have held up great after about 40+ days of pretty intense use. I am pretty hard on skis and my pair have a lot of minor cosmetic dings to prove it. The cores, edges and base were pretty bomber for me, and I've had no construction or quality concerns.
In deep powder, these skis are pretty amazing. The float nicely and the rocker up front does a really good job of absorbing the big rollers and scrubbing speed as you initiate your next turn. They absorb the chop and power through crud amazingly well. They are also a nice ski in slushy spring conditions. They are definitely not "groomer" skis, but on most resort groomers they perform well when they are on edge. On flat/groomed runouts they get a bit loose (especially at high speed), but they aren't unpredictable. The width underfoot and longer turning radius mean that these skis don't move from edge to edge as quickly as I'd like for some conditions, but generally that isn't a problem for the type of skiing that I do. The rockered tails sometimes threw me off and I would end up in the back seat when I first started skiing these, but after a few days, I adjusted my style and never had any more issues.
I recommend these to any advanced skiers that really like crush pow and blast through the crud.
How well can these hit BC jumps and ski...
How well can these hit BC jumps and ski switch(especially in powder)?
These skis really changed my entire experience on the hill. I'm a Denver resident and get up to Keystone, A-Basin or Vail whenever I can. Those mountains (especially Vail)can throw a lot at you and with my previous skis (Head Monster 82's) I found myself not feeling like I could charge everything I came up against in a day. I demo'd several other fat ski models including the Icelantic, Solomon and K2 offerings and was beginning to think I wasn't going to find my fix-all single ski quiver like I had been hoping. The last ski I demo'd were these bad boys... I bought them the next day. I'm 6' 6" and about 240 lbs. Needless to say I need a STIFF ski just to feel stable. The Gotamas are that and a lot more. Even with the weight I carry the skis are quick and limber. My most recent day at Keystone was a hard-charging tuck and go day and the ski performed flawlessly. I highly recommend this ski for a big guy looking for a ski that can handle it.
I just got the 178 on sale. I am 5'10",...
I just got the 178 on sale. I am 5'10", 210 LBS, advanced but not expert west coast skier looking to expand my abilities from the standard resort runs. Did I go too short on these? i was comparing them side-by-side with line prophet 100's at 186 and they were almost the same length.
It's really what you're comfortable skiing. The longer/wider the ski, the more float you'll get in pow, but it always comes at a cost. Too long and you won't be as nimble w/ your turns. Too wide and they won't be good for much other than DEEP pow. So you if find that you can whip off turns as you like and feel you're getting the float you need, then you made the right choice. In summary, if you're having a blast on them, you made the right choice :)
Does any one know the weight in grams?
Does any one know the weight in grams?
Weight 178cm- 10.1 lb / 4.6kg
1 Pound = 453.59237 Grams.
10.1 lb = 4581.282 g
hope this helps...
What bindings are best for this ski in...
What bindings are best for this ski in powder?
Any binding that works on hardpack will work just as well in powder.
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This is the year to get these fatties if you've been thinking about going over to Volkls. I've been demo-ing these Gotomas for a few years and have enjoyed them in varying conditions. The new rocker that's in these 2011's is something else.It makes these the most responsive boards I've ever tried. These sticks are great in the powder and the crud, turning into real cruisers under these conditions. In the past I've skied the 176,and 183's. I bought the 186, remember that new rocker?, for more stability at speed without sacrificing manuverability, and gaining added float. Very sweet!!
pretty steeze slidy sticks
ive skied about 2 weeks on these and i have never been more satisfied. there really fun in the powder, but they do really good on everything eltse. they feel a little uneasy in the park, but other than that, there amazing. i mounted them with marker barons and these did pretty good in the backcountry,the tailclips are just a little hard to keep on.
Bottom line: this is an allaround good ski
Solid, versatile ski
I bought the Gotamas earlier this year and have tested them out in a variety of conditions (Snowbird, Tremblant, Killington). In the soft stuff they ski ridiculously well, as expected. Also, I was surprised at how well they carved on groomers, although they do ski a bit shorter than their true length due to the slight rocker. More out of curiosity than anything else, I gave them a test drive on some icy East Coast conditions, which went basically as expected. Clearly these skis aren't meant to grab an edge on ice, but on hardpack they actually skied a little better than expected.
Only downside that I could find was performance at high speed, on the harder-packed snow. As long as you're holding your edge they ski great, but between turns and in the tuck (when you lose your tip and tail edges) they lose some lateral stability and can chatter a bit if you hit a rough patch.
Overall I'd say these are a great all-mountain ski that absolutely shred in the good snow.
...WOW Awesome Ski!!!
Alright so this ski is the perfect everyday out west ski. If you are looking for a ski that is going to slay the powder, destroy the crud, and rip the groomers this is the one ski quiver(west). I havent had a chance to ski it in a real deep day yet, but im assuming in all but the deepest of days this ski will have no problems. With the ELP rocker it really allows you to get the surfy feel out of the ski with out it being a noodle on hardpack. It can bust through crud at ease thanks to the stiffer tip design. It does suprisingly well on groomers as well. The trick i found is too just not try and overwork the ski. Let the ski make the turns and you will be good. The only cons i have with this ski are that on ice ... well forget about it. (highly not reccomended) and 2nd that the top sheet chips and scratches very easily. But all in all if you are looking for an everyday out west ski or and east caost powder ski look no further the VOLKL GOTAMA is your ticket.
I'm 5'9 175lbs....looking at a 178 for...
I'm 5'9 175lbs....looking at a 178 for tele with hammerhead bindings. Mainly resort resort skiing, steeps, non-groomed. Should I go 178 or 186? Just not sure.