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You're stoked on a fairly lightweight sleeping pad, but you also want something that's almost cheatingly comfortable. Camp with the Therm-a-Rest Trail Pro Sleeping Pad. The Trail Pro sleeping mattress puts two inches of padding between you and the ground. The textured polyester upper fabric keeps you on the mat all night long, while a durable nylon bottom guards against pointy rocks and sticks.
Bottom Line: Therm-a-Rest's Trail Pro Pad promotes quick-to-snooze, late-to-rise camp sleep.
This is one sleeping pad that demands your full attention..!!
It is packs down nicely....after you learn the trick of deflating it It sleeps very well...once fully inflated one must have the proper amount of patience to wait for it to inflate on it's own if patience is a problem one can inflate it manually but this leads to a shorter life for your pad and leaves you light-headed, espesially at elevation..! I would recommend keeping this pad inside of your pack rather than on the outside
I would NOT recommened this pack for an AT thru-hike....it demands too much attention....
I'm a light backpacker and have used the thermarest z-lite up until now. The little bit of extra weight is worth the 160% MORE cushion that this pad offers. The pad got rid of all the uneccesary weight by being 20inches wide and tapered at the feet. A fantastic night's sleep is definetly worth the little extra weight. (i'm a side sleeper and the bag works for winter backpacking too)
1) How does this compare to the Prolite Plus for backpacking and/or car camping? 2) Is there a stuff sack available? If purchased, I would probably want to lash it to the outside of my pack. It appears there is only a stuff sack available for the Profile Plus.
1. The prolite plus is 1.5 inches thick vs. trailpro 2 inches thick. Prolite has an r-value of 3.8 where as trailpro has an r-value of 4.8. Prolite weighs 8 oz. less in a regular size than the trailpro. Finally the prolite costs $20 more than the trailpro.
All this means that the trailpro is warmer and more comfortable, but you are carrying more weight and the rolled up width is greater due to the larger amount of foam insulation.
You would really need to try them out in a store to see if the added bulk and weight is worth it for you individually.
2. The new Trailpro comes with a stuff sack included, but the older model on Dept. of Goods does not. The same stuff sack is available under the stuff sack section on backcountry but be warned that you have to fold the pad in half in order to use the stuff sack. That makes the pad very narrow and plump which is not ideal for strapping on the outside of a pack. There is a waterproof dry bag available on the thermarest website that allows you to not fold the matress but just roll it instead, but it is heavy (6 or 7 oz.) and pricey ($30).
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Very nice pad so far. I spent a week using it to sleep on while camping and I never woke up stiff. Temps dipped down into the 40's, but I never felt a bit of cold ground. No complaints from me
This is a great, light, and compact sleeping pad. It fits in my pack easily. I'm a 5'6" woman and had to skip over the woman sized pad since I'm too tall and this one is great with extra room. The best part is how easy it is to pack back up after use. Just release the valve and roll it up nice and tight. My old sleeping pad was a beast compared to this one.
More detailed answer: This pad is made up of durable (not-puncture proof but abrasive and tear resistant) nylon outer material bonded to open-cell foam. When it's rolled up and the valve closed, the foam is collapsed (similar to a scrunched up sponge). When unrolled and the valve is open, the air rushes in as the foam expands thus allowing it to self-inflate. The Thermarest Trail Pro Pad does this exceptionally well because of it's two inches of foam. You should see full inflation in about 10 minutes IF it is stored properly prior to use (unrolled with valve open). If the pad feels to soft after fully inflated, it is perfectly fine to blow in a couple of breaths. I usually fill it up a bit more firm than what is comfortable and then lay on it, releasing the air slightly until I hit the "sweet spot" or, in other words, the perfect amount of comfort. This is very hard to do in an air-only mattress...
Once you get the pad, take it out of the package, unroll, and let sit for 24 hours with the valve open. This will allow the foam to regain it's memory and work properly.
First off, by no means am I giving Therm-a-Rest as a brand any negative feedback. Their quality in construction is top notch, and their customer service is great. This is completely subjective (regarding comfort), and I hope it helps someone out there who might be considering this pad who happens to have a similar size/build as I.
My rating for this sleeping pad stems from the past several uses I have put the Trail Pro (L) pad through. I am 6'-4" and 240lbs. After looking through the many selections available for sleeping pads on Backcountry, I decided that the Trail Pro was the best compromise between Weight of product, R value (as stated on Therm-a-Rest's website), Quality of Construction, and Price. I ordered two -- One for me, and one for my wife.
When I received the items, I was not disappointed with the construction at all. VERY solid product. (As an aside, I purchased a couple of Therm-a-Rest patch repair kits and valve replacement kits to keep on-hand for backcountry repairs. Thankfully I did, because when I inflated the two pads per the included instructions to let the foam expand and "learn" the proper set, one of my cats decided that she would test out my pad while I had my back turned. When I saw her sitting cozily on the pad I carefully removed her, and moved my operation elsewhere in our apartment. Turns out that just the pressure from one of her back claws as she sat punctured the top fabric of the pad -- found that out while camping, since the leak took several hours overnight to deplete the inflation enough to notice -- and I had to use a patch. The patch kit works incredibly well, and is fast at that. Kudos for ease of repair -- not so much for my choice of gear prep. location!)
In use, however, I found that I could not sleep at all well on this pad. Either fully inflated, or slightly less so, I could find no position to sleep in that I could remain in for longer than 20 minutes tops. The result was a constant battle to find a comfortable side to rest on, try to fall asleep, then reawaken later to start the process all over again. Not one night did I sleep all the way through. Both hips and shoulders felt like I was laying on concrete all night long. My wife, on the other hand (who at 4'10" and considerably less weight than I) slept soundly and didn't change positions once all night -- I can attest to that since I was up each night, and each trip we've made this past summer, and I watched her sleep soundly on each occasion.
My conclusion is that my body geometry and pressure points don't jive at all well with the Trail Pro. I've considered purchasing a different Therm-a-Rest version -- such as the base camp -- but I really don't feel like backpacking the additional weight. The Trail Pro was about the limit on weight that I wanted to haul around. So now the quest begins again to find a pad that works for me.
I'm 61 and have been back-country camping for over 15 years. This is by far the best sleeping pad I've ever used. I enjoyed the most comfortable rest I've ever had in the back country and recommend it highly.
After some research on comfort vs. weight, we tested this in the store on a concrete floor. Without over inflating, I let it equalize on the store floor. I rested my hand on it and it went right through, but when I put my entire body on it, the air shifted and adjusted, and it was VERY comfortable, even sideways. Hip soreness has always kept me from a good nights sleep when camping. I could feel no direct pressure on my hips, even on that concrete. This pad is twice as thick as our old pads, yet a fraction of the weight. It actually rolls up smaller than they did. Perfect balance of weight, size, and comfort.
Recently purchased TAR trail pro for use mainly on scouting trips with my son. Used it twice so far with comfortable results. Both nights it was paired with a Mountain Hardware Ultralamina 32 mummy bag and used in a tent with a tarp underneath on flat, grassy land. Temps in the low 40's one night, upper 40's the other. Despite being an active sleeper (I toss and turn a lot), I had no problem staying on the pad. The 2" thickness kept me comfortable all night. The pad reached near fullness on its own within about 1 hour, with an additional 2 breaths to top it off prior to sleeping. No leaks noted, but I also purchased repair kit just in case. Overall, a nice balance between weight and comfort. Packs nicely and sleeps comfortably.
I'm a light backpacker and have used the thermarest z-lite up until now. The little bit of extra weight is worth the 160% MORE cushion that this pad more...
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