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Like sleeping on air ... oh, wait, it is sleeping on air.
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Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Trekker Sleeping Pad
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would this work with the thermarest trekker...
TL73
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would this work with the thermarest trekker chair? would using it in the chair (if I am anwesome 250 lbs) murder the pad? Thanks
Pat Palmer
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You should be fine. The baffles spread the load evenly, so you won't stress any seams too much. Depending on the season, I weigh anywhere between 205 and 240 lbs, and have never had a problem with any quality pad.
The description for the chair says it's compatible with any Thermarest pad. Just make sure you match the width to your chair (either 20" or 25")
TL73
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both the pad and lounge chair showed up and seems to handle me weight well. For those of you that are worried about the sound, dont be. Its minimal at most. Doesnt pack down super small with the lounge chair kept on but still small enough to to justify the comfort and ease of the chair.
best bang for buck in the neoair series
Yung Lee
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- Familiarity: I've used it several times
In summary, this is a durable, comfortable, compact (when folded of course), and the most affordable pad in the neoair series, which for me, makes it the perfect 3 season pad. You can certainly shave couple of ounces by going to xlite or xtherm. But for the criteria that I use, the trekker is the better choice for the following reasons:
1. I find the rectagular shape of the trekker to be personally better than the xlite and xtherm (just find the shape to be more comfortable).
2. I found the occasional "crinkly" sounds to be minimal compared to the xlite and xtherm as well (xlite being the worst - relatively speaking).
3. And of course this one is the least expensive.
I do think that the all season is the best overall buy however (if you must have a single pad for all four seasons), because it does have a higher R value, not much more expensive than the trekker, has similar rectangular shape, and comparable in weight - but I don't in any way regret getting the trekker. (well, my gf got it for me for b-day....so I'll use it regardless cause I appreciate it).
Furthermore, if you're weight sensitive and/or require higher R-value, you'll have to go up to the xTherm....or XLite obviously.
Sleep well!
Tighe Cordry
Member since
I am 6'3" and the large fits me well. I am very happy with this pad. It is cheaper than the four season version and is only marginally larger and heavier. I felt it was a good decision to save the money and get the trekker vs. the other pads available from thermarest. Mine has never leaked air through the night and typically stays inflated for two straight nights. It is very tough and durable, I would recommend this to anyone looking for a good nights sleep!
Low R-value is fine for light weight, small pack and 3 season use
Lady London
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I like this pad the best of any I have tried. It's incredibly small and light for the comfort. Note that I like that it has low R-value as I use it for summer and indoors. I'll take something different like the new Xtherm for winter or very cold temps.
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Sara Kay
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First time to this website. I am female...
JDwdz
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First time to this website. I am female and 47 (long years :-) so comfort influences me.. I have not backpacked in years and am just getting back into it and replacing things/lightening my pack .. not sure where it will lead me (temps, etc)
I don't want to purchase for myself, hubby and daughter, just to realize I should have bought something else.. so I am going back and forth between this pad or the All-Season... should I use some tricks to warm up this one if needed.. or just go ahead and buy the 4.9 pad incase I need it?
Arthur Debowski
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I would probably go with the all season for the most comfort in this type of pad. I've never had a pad be too warm for me but the opposite has occurred numerous times. If you decide on this pad what you can do in a pinch to get a bit more warmth from it is placing some clothes between you and the pad or your empty pack under the pad for more warmth and insulation. But for ease of use I'd probably just go with the all season.
Lady London
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I have this pad, and am truly impressed with how small it packs. It is so far the most comfortable pad I have slept on for the weight, which is very light also. I am glad this is not a particularly warm pad as I use it for summer and indoors (Youth Hostels camping barns, etc.). In the same type of pad I'm looking seriously at the Xtherm in the same range for winter which has a much higher R-value and both may be the combination for me.
Rick Vizcara
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For Lady London... I am glad your so excited that your pad packs down so small and that its light. But you did nothing in your answer to help the person asking the question should she go with the All Season version vs this cheaper version. Jdwrz I would go with the all season to be sure as your probably at your age "Nothing wrong with it" be more comfortable and warmer being a woman on the all season. At your age its pays to be comfortable by just paying the couple of extra bucks for the all season. A sleeping bag and seriously a sleeping pad is by far the last place to skimp on money. It is awful tossing and turning all night cold or because of a lumpy hard ground hurting your back or hips. To me its far better to invest in a good pad for a good nights sleep. I am a big guy or stocky like a bulldog and I like to side sleep and this pad really can take my side sleeping and deliver a good nights sleep. As for the cold I am a guy and hot potato by most standards but will only use this pad to say 30 degrees with a 15 degree bag. Any lower than that I need to put a z-rest foam pad ontop of it to keep warm enough. So for you I would say this pad would take you to 40 degrees at its lowest and with a 15 or 20 degree bag for you to be toasty and comfortable. any lower than that get the All Season.
Not durable enough
mgo4873694
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I thought it was very comfortable, but on my fourth night on it, it stopped holding air. It's going back to BC. I like the Neo concept, but in my opinion these things just aren't made for use outside your tent.
Looks great but isn't the R-value lacking?...
pre5231334
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Looks great but isn't the R-value lacking? I have a big agnes bag (rated to 15 degrees) and I am nervous that this pad will not keep me warm. I mean a R value of 2 is pretty low. Isn't that equivalent to 35 or 40 degrees?
Thomas Ogasawara
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Yeah, the R-value is pretty low. If you're camping in the cold (~0ºC or less) it's going to get chilly. That's the price you pay for ultra lite gear though I guess. There are other options that are pretty well insulated, or you can do what I've seen a bunch of people do and stack this on top of a closed cell foam pad (e.g. the thermarest z-lite pad). Kinda defeats the purpose of ultra lite'ing, but it'll keep you warm and comfy.
Jason Livingston
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This is the least expensive of the Thermarest NeoAir pads and designed for 3-season backpacking (anything above freezing). If you want a warmer pad, I would go for the NeoAir All-Season. It has an R-Value of 4.9. This will easily be able to take you to about 0 degrees (if you have a 0 degree bag). It is more expensive, but it uses higher-end materials to get to that rating.
Bomb!
Bradley Davey
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This pad rocks. I have this and the Z-Lite, and I really enjoy them both. I use the Z-Lite mainly for protecting my behind while sitting down, and the Trekker for sleeping. It's light, durable, and inflates easily.
Lightweight comfort
Stephen Yutzy
Member since
Both my wife and I have these pads. She is a 5'8"ish side sleeper and has the regular size, I'm a 6'1"ish back sleeper and have the large size. I'm actually ok with the length of the regular size, but prefer the width of the large to let my arms down. Both pack down remarkably small, with the large size only about an inch and a half longer when rolled. When fully inflated they are a bit firm, we usually fully inflate them, lay down, and slowly let air out until it feels just right. The thickness is nice for my wife, since even as a side sleeper she doesn't bottom out anywhere. Probably not enough insulation for winter, but we don't camp/backpack then anyways. We haven't had any problems with leaks or the material looking worn, so it seems to be durable. Certainly feels more durable than the regular neoair. We've always used ours in a tent. From an in-store comparison, this seems less "crinkly" sounding than the neoair.
Minor gripes: included stuff sack (big + over the neoair) is way too big, the inflation valve is hard to clean (really a gripe with almost all inflatable pads)
Incredible Sleeping Pad - Comfort in the Backcountry
wberlin23
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I don't write gear reviews often because most of the time the gear simply performs as expected, neither wow-ing me or disappointing me.
This Pad - WOW. It has a lot going for it.
Packs small. Fairly light. Nearly noiseless. Thick. Storage sack included (big plus).
I'm a side sleeper, and this pad keeps me off the ground. What can I say? I love this thing!
The one minor gripe I have is that the included sack is actually a tiny bit too large for the pad once it's been properly rolled up. They could probably cut the sack size in half and still have the rolled up pad fit inside.
I am looking forward to years of usage from this pad.
Nice and cmfortable
Tobias Kai Looper
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This is a great pad, it packs down a little shorter, but a little wider than a nalgene bottle. It's very light and doesn't take up much space inside my pack. I love the fact that it's over 2" thick, not sure that it's 2.5", but maybe I didn't have it all the way inflated. Either way it's the best nights sleep that I've had on a camping trip.
Is there a reason why this pad can't be...
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Is there a reason why this pad can't be folded into thirds instead of halves before rolling? It seems like it could be packed nearly as small as the normal NeoAir if it were folded into thirds.
Jason Livingston
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I fold mine in thirds. I absolutely can be made as small and compact as the regular NeoAir, although it isn't as light. Pack size is the same, just 5oz more in weight.
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Thank you so much for the help. I'm not extremely concerned with weight as I don't backpack, I camp out of my fishing kayak occasionally.
seachaz
Member since
Mine came from the factory folded in thirds so I think its safe to do. I figure you can do thirds, half or no fold depending on your pack space.
Big Improvement!
swschmoll
Member since
I really like this pad. I just leave it in the pad slip on my Big Agnes bag and stuff them both together in the same compression sack. Get it down to a volley ball size, a huge improvement over the older roll up pad that took up a lot more room. Others have complained about the noise the pad makes but I have never noticed anything that kept me up at night. I chose the Trekker over the regular Neo-Air for the price and it is supposedly tougher. It gets four stars due to the only down side being the price.
Can someone move around on this while...
jonny80s
Member since
Can someone move around on this while inside your tent and tell me what kind of sound it makes rubbing on the tent fabric. I was kept up most of the first night while using a big agnes air core pad in conjunction with a big agnes tent. Some seriously disturbing sounds come from them, similar to fingernails on a chalk board. After that I always put something between the two (drylite towel usually). Thanks.
MOSHE KRAMER
Member since
The sound doesn't really bother me, but it really depends on the person. My suggestion: ear plugs.
Matt Price
Member since
Haha this question cracked me up. I got mine just befor this years wildfire season. It makes a slight sound similar to sleeping on crumpled up newspaper, I never care in the middle of the night cause any sleep is good sleep on the fire line, but if your a light sleeper the sound could get anoying.
Even better than my Big Agnes pad
tam3792215
Member since
As many have written before, Thermarest really nailed it with this new model of the NeoAir.
I had a Big Agnes air pad prior to springing for the Trekker, and this pad is all about the horizontal air ballasts. My BA pad had vertical air chambers, and the horizontal ones conform to your back more easily. I used my trekker for the first time last weekend on top of a car camping cot, so I was extra spoiled, but I'm looking forward to see how much more comfy it is on the ground.
A friend of my BF owned the previous model of the NeoAir, and said it sounded like a "bag of potato chips" and didn't seem very durable. The Trekker is quiet and seems tough. Only downside is that it is not insulated, but I've heard Thermarest is coming out with the silver coating insulation. My BF got the 3/4 length 25" Trekker, and he loves the extra width.
So far, no regrets here. Way to go, Thermarest.
What's the difference between this and the...
BradyF
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What's the difference between this and the normal NeoAir pad?
Jason Livingston
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They have the wrong image up. Go over to http://cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-rest/mattresses/trek-and-travel/neoair-trekker/product to see the NeoTrekker.
Jay Creech
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The biggest difference is the weight and durability. The original NeoAir uses 30 denier high tenacity ripstop nylon (top and bottom). The Trekker NeoAir uses a 75 denier polyester top shell and a 100 denier nylon bottom. The Trekker Neo Air also weighs 19oz while the Neo Air only weighs 14 oz (regular size for both).
