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Yes, the Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Sleeping pad packs down the size of a one-liter water bottle, and the regular size weighs a scant 14 ounces. But what sets the NeoAir apart from other non-insulated pads is its ability to keep you cozy on winter trips. A reflective barrier reduces ground heat-loss and returns warmth to your body. The fact that there isn’t down or synthetic insulation means you can blow this mattress up without a heavy pump, and without worrying that exhaled moisture will ruin the interior.

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Ours are still going strong.

  • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer

We purchased the large ones. I think they are great. Plenty of width and length.

My only gripe was the fact they are too wide especially because the head is square and not rounded and they won't fit into bivy bags very well.

For car camping, hiking and Sea kayaking they are awesome.

Solid 1 Year of Use

  • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer

So I've been using the NeoAir for over a year now. In colder conditions I blow it all the way up to increase my distance from the ground. In warmer weather I prefer to deflate it some and enjoy "my sleep number". It's light, easy to inflate, packs small and is surprisingly durable. I sleep like a baby on this thing! Hands down one of the best gear purchases I've ever made.



Bottom Line: worth every penny, and then some.

...compared to Xlite

  • Familiarity:I've used it several times

I actually prefer the original NeoAir to the XLite that replaced it. Yes, the Xlite is 2 oz lighter, (regular size) and has a higher R-value of 3.2 to 2.5, but the edges of the XLite pad collapse under load and make the pad feel narrower than it is. The orginal does this as well, but the straight corners make up the difference. I'll stick with the original!

light and comfortable

    i have used it only once up to now. it is feather light after my camping thermarest pad of 900 gr. i am a bit uneasy because it seems very thin and could get punctures from a stony surface. i always use my inflatable pads with a thin pad underneath for protection. it is very very comfortable. one small and useful item in your backpack.

    Best sleeping pad of all time, as long as you don't need a lot of warmth

      I’ll preface this review with my cut and paste statement that I work as a backcountry backpacking guide in Yosemite National Park. Nearly all of the products I take the time to review have seen at least a half a season, if not more, of use... and I’m committed to not bothering to write a review until I feel like I’ve really gotten to know a product. I never thought I’d bother to write reviews, but I’ve recently decided that since I’ve spent so much time over these last many years reading reviews, and finding a tremendous amount of value in articulate and well-informed opinions, that I wanted to give back to the community. So, with that being said, here we go...

      My NeoAir has seen a lot of use. And not just normal wear and tear, but it sees a lot of Sierra granite. I've never had a leak of any sort. I keep the patch kit in my stuff sack for it, but have yet to use it. Granted, I'm not using it as a sit pad on bare granite, nor do I take it surfing on Tenaya Lake. I treat it with care, and its served me well in return.

      It is incredibly light, packs down nearly to the size of one liter bottle of Coke, and is very, very comfortable to sleep on. Also, though its well known and marked on the package, the r rating for insulation on this pad is very low. It essentially offers no insulation value. However, I've slept with this and my Western Mountaineering Versalite (a 10 degree bag) down to the low 20s and been just fine.

      The complaints about the noise it makes are not problematic for me. Sure, it makes a little noise when you're moving around, but its not like you're sleeping on a bag of broken potato chips. I have no problem with slipping off of it either. The only minor quibble is that since it lacks any insulation it will initially 'deflate' once the breath you've blown into it cools. My formula is this - pitch my tent, inflate the NeoAir, throw my bag on it, and the get dinner or hors d'oeuvres going, then come back in an hour and top it off so its nice and tight. If you like it a little soft its easy to tweak via the valve for just the right amount of cushion. I've turned a few friends onto this pad, and all of them love it, and none of them have had leaks.

      All in all its as good as sleeping pads gets. Sadly, it looks like Thermarest has moved on to another design thatis a bit heavier. Maybe I'll find out if the few extra ounces are an improvement once this old faithful kicks the can, but I'm hoping that's a long way off.

      Sounds like you are sleeping in a bag of jiffy pop

        This pad is a great blend of features that are important to most. EXCELLENT comfort, EXCELLENT weight and pack-ability, FAIR on insulation. The only downside to this pad is how loud it is. It sounds like you are sleeping in a bag of jiffy pop popcorn.

        comfort at -30

          I just spent 8 days & nights winter camping. Night temp. -30, day temp. -20. The NeoAir worked great. The pad was comfortable,easy to blow up & it kept me warm. Not once did I get cold from underneath me, not even at-30. I did put a hole in it, but it was very easy to fix. This is an excellent pad for winter camping. Eric Boehmler , Alaska.

          NeoAir - Cloud 9 is Yellow

            Along with the Big Agnes sleeping bag with which I use this pad, the NeoAir is the single most valuable (not expensive, valuable) piece of camping gear I own. At home, I have a Sleep Number bed...the NeoAir is as close as you are going to get to that in a tent. I have used it in 95+ degree (at night) weather in Texas and it was comfortable. I have used it in 27 degree weather in Oklahoma and I was toasty warm sleeping directly on the ground. In a Big Agnes, the sleeping pad provides 100% of the bottom insulation. I have owned my NeoAir for over 18 months now and spent over 30 nights on it. Zero complaints. Well worth the money.

            I am a classic Big & Tall sort of person (more big than tall, but tall too) and the NeoAir pad allows me to roll over on my side without my hip ever touching ground. Sure, it takes 40 breaths to blow it up - but then it's heaven all week. When slipped in to the pad pouch on the bottom of the Big Agnes I can roll, toss, turn, and SLEEP in any position in complete comfort. Every campout (I am a Scouter) I make the folks with big blowup mattresses and self-inflators alike jealous as I fold the NeoAir into thirds and roll it into a bag smaller than a loaf of bread.

            I have seen others complain of punctures on the first use - try clearing your sleeping site of sharp stones and burrs before you pitch your tent (duh).
            I have seen others complain of awaking on the ground in the morning. A little lesson in science - your breath is approximately 98 degrees when you blow up the pad. Warm air is expanded. As your warm breath in the pad cools down, the air contracts and so does the pad. This is especially pronounced in cold weather. Just top it up with a few breaths and sleep happy. As a matter of habit, the NeoAir is the first thing I set up after my tent. I blow it all the way up, toss it in the tent, and then finish setting up camp. Then, right before I go to sleep it needs topping up because the air I used to inflate it has cooled down and contracted. Once the pad and the ground temperature reach an equilibrium point, there is no problem. But, if you blow it up right before you get in the bag - yup - you are going to wake up on the ground. Don't blame the NeoAir, blame science.

            Buy the stuff sack. Ridiculous that you have to spend an extra $15 when you are spending $100+ on a pad, I know, but the stuff sack is just the right size. I have seen others complain about the stuff sack. Here we go again...if there is ANY air left in your NeoAir when you try to roll it up - you got it - too thick to go in the bag. Make sure all of the air is out, roll it up, and it slides into the stuff sack with room to spare. There is absolutely NO problem with the NeoAir, or its stuff sack.

            One other tip - blow it up the minute you get it and let it sit over night. Notice how it deflates a little. Top it up. Notice how it stays inflated. If there is a manufacturing problem this is where it will show up. If you buy it, never test inflate it, and wait until your first night out to discover a problem, whose fault is that? (Hint - it's not the NeoAir's fault. Be Prepared.)

            The best

              This pad is awesome. It packs down to a size of a little bigger than a nalgene bottle. When blown up it is just about 3 inches thick and comfy as heck. The only drawback is that it takes a bit of time to blow up and also to pack it down correctly. If you are dirtbike camping like me, or just need need gear to take up as little room as possible, this is the pad for you. If you are on the fence, pull the trigger. You won't regret it.

              love the pad, skip the stuff bag

                great comfort, feather weight, love this pad

                make sure to use a ground cloth for puncture protection (not that that has been a problem after 10 months of use - Olympic Peninsula Coast, North Cascades, Grand Canyon, etc) - it's just that it would really suck to have to sleep on the rocks and roots in the middle of a hump

                i deflate mine, roll it into a cylinder and wrap my space socks around each end, then into the pack

                what's with the comments about the lung effort to blow this up? can't blow this up? really? go home

                Neon noodle

                  Being a serious gear head, I can honestly say that I have tried most lightweight pads out there -- either in store or in the wilderness. The Neo far surpasses any pad I have ever used in terms of compact weight, comfort and stability. This baby is tiny and featherweight in a backpack. It will slide into some of those tiny voids while packing. This pad is simply the most comfortable pad I have ever laid my trail weary spine upon. Some pads cause added rolling when turning from back to side sleeping and back again. I for one tend to move around during the night and the Neo is neither noisy (as some people claim) or unstable. I think its the horizontal baffles that offer improved stability and warmth. I have the 20 and 25" models. The 20 is a bit too narrow, but works fine while the 25 feels like a queen size mountain matress. It literally fills the entire floor space of my MSR Hubba HP. I simply add a 1/8" or 1/4" closed cell foam pad between the Neo and my bag during colder conditions - perfect!

                  I cannot put a higher rating or I would. The only thing that could improve this pad is a material that is more durable for using in a camp chair, however this would then be detrimental to the insan lightness of this pad. For that I will be more careful!

                  Get it today!!

                  not a cold weather pad.

                    five stars for comfort, but four stars for ease of use cuz you do have to blow it up, which takes a couple of minutes. the biggest complaint is that this pad is advertised as being a good could weather pad, but its not at all. this thing will suck the heat right out of you. my solution consisted of getting a z-light to put on top of it, which works well to insulate against heat loss through the ground. four stars over all, because of that little issue.

                    Cant go wrong with the neoair!

                      I just got this pad a couple days ago and got the chance to test it out for the weekend and i must say it is very comfortable, and ridiculously easy to inflate. Definitely a great buy, I'm looking forward to seeing how long it will last!

                      More comfort camping than at home

                        This is by far the most comfortable sleeping pad that I have ever used. The only reason I don't give it five stars is because after several months of heavy use, I woke up in the middle of the night to it mostly deflated. After that trip I tried finding a leak to patch with no success and ended up exchanging the pad. No problems with the new one.
                        Did not have a problem inflating this pad whether it was after a long day climbing or 15 miles of hiking.
                        I was skeptical about the life expectancy with the thin material, but we will see how the second pad holds up.

                        USMC LEP Tested

                          Light weight and easy to pack are the two main reasons for purchasing this sleeping pad. After sleeping on only a ISO Mat while at PTA (Hawaii) I realized I needed a ground mattress. Since buying I've used it in the Mojave Desert (EMV) for 24 straight nights without any problems. Did notice it loosing some air over night and during day when left inflated. Never enough to touch ground though. Three or four more breaths firmed it up to my liking.
                          Once deployed to Afghanistan I of course took the Neo Air on all Op's without any issues. Did use a ground tarp and Z-lite iso mat (afraid of punctures) and slept like a baby. Took a lot of ball busting from the young Marines but only because they were jealous (Haters).
                          Would highly recommend.

                          is the neotrekker thermarest pad you show...

                          is the neotrekker thermarest pad you show the all season model and what
                          is your cost for the 2 1/2 inch 77x20 model

                          This is probably not a good idea for...

                          This is probably not a good idea for sleeping on wooden planks (AT shelters), no? I am thinking the Pro-lite would be a better choice, it has a higher r-value and although 1.5' thick vs. 2.5', it is much more resistant to puncturing. Any suggestions, confirmations?

                          Do any of you know what the "LARGE" size...

                          Do any of you know what the "LARGE" size dimensions are un-inflated?

                          I'm looking at the therm a rest prolite...

                          I'm looking at the therm a rest prolite plus and the NeoAir Sleeping Pads. At the present time we are car to the camp site family so weight is not a big issue. Other than price what are the differences?

                          Best Answer

                          If weight is no issue, you can find a much cheaper mattress out there that will suffice in both warmth and comfort. The Neo Air is meant to serve backpacking enthusiasts with the lightest most comfortable pad Thermarest can off. The differences you will find are thickness and insulative quality. While the Prolite has more foam for insulation, it is also much thinner and therefore less comfortable. The Neo is a true air matress with a thin layer of insulation laminated to the interior wall for added warmth. Check the warmth rating and go try them out in a store. I'll bet you will find the Neo to be the most comfortable matress out there.

                          I'm looking at the therm a rest prolite...

                          I'm looking at the therm a rest prolite plus and the NeoAir Sleeping Pads. At the present time we are car to the camp site family so weight is not a big issue. Other than price what are the differences?

                          The neoair is an ultralight pad, I would not recommend it for car camping. The material is very lightweight and I'm affraid of a puncture. I've used the prolite plus and like its ease of use, warmth, comfort\ weight ratio very much. If weight is not an issue the trail pro is a good pad also. Hope that helped.

                          How will the NeoAir work with one of the...

                          How will the NeoAir work with one of the CA lounge chairs?

                          i try not to flex inflatables. i feel like it puts stress on seams that werent meant for that. i have always used closed cell foam pads for chairs because there is no chance of them popping. if a closed cell rips or gets punctured, it will still function. no so with an inflatable.

                          that is not to say that you couldnt do it, that's just not really what its meant for. there may be people out there doing that, just not me.

                          Anybody have strategies for reducing the...

                          Anybody have strategies for reducing the crinkly noise? Wash it?

                          which would you recommend neair sleeping...

                          which would you recommend neair sleeping pad or trekker? same comfort level? i am 6ft but side sleeper so i dont think i need the length. is the small just as wide as the long or medium?

                          i noticed that the trekker is not insulated, i do some cold weather camping but not too much. is it still worth it?
                          thanks,
                          mike

                          Has anybody used this in a Stoic Templum...

                          Has anybody used this in a Stoic Templum 2 tent? Just wondering which size would be best if I were to pick up a couple of these.

                          Hey how warm is this pad? I will be in...

                          Hey how warm is this pad? I will be in both extremely hot temps and winter months and just looking for a pad that would be lightweight yet also warm/cool enough for the appropriate temps.

                          What kind of single person screen tent is...

                          What kind of single person screen tent is in the picture of the NeoAir Sleeping Pad. It's green, and I haven't seen anything like it. I'd like to use it for a shield for those black biting flies when I want to. :)

                          There are 14 "guru photos" and it's the last photo to the right. Thanks for any help.

                          I am considering replacing my 1.5 lb...

                          I am considering replacing my 1.5 lb thermarest with this to save weight. The review says it requires no heavy pump, but does than mean no pump or no heavy pump? . I do not want the weight or voume of a pump. Can I blow it up like my current Thermarest? Is there another better lighter altenative?

                          Why is it so difficult to find the Specs...

                          Why is it so difficult to find the Specs for the various models? I am looking for the NEW NeoAir - ALL SEASON - (R-Value = 4.9) 2.5" thick Air Mattress. Is it self inflating? Price for the Small Size?

                          Best Answer

                          The All Season NeoAir is being released on June 1, so details are still hard to come by. It is not a self inflating pad, but it comes with a pump. It will come in 3 sizes: medium, regular, and large. The medium will cost $139.95 and is 20 x 66 x 2.5 inches

                          I just got my NeoAir and I'm wondering if...

                          I just got my NeoAir and I'm wondering if anyone knows if you can stuff it in a sack scrunched up or if it would be best to roll it every time? I'm worried about the inside tubes not handling it being scrunched up. Any thoughts?

                          I agree, I would not stuff it, but rather roll it. When using "UL" gear, it is best to treat it with care. A lot of the "UL" gear is actually quite durable, even more so than may be expected, but IMO, it is more important to just treat it right. Besides, if you roll it you will be sure to get all the air out and it will ultimately roll up smaller than if it were stuffed...

                          What's the difference between this and the...

                          What's the difference between this and the NeoAir Trekker?

                          Best Answer

                          Great question! There are a couple of key differences between the two. The NeoAir (listed above) uses the most durable lightweight nylon available. Remember, this is ultra-lightweight material so it needs a little more TLC (no different from other super lightweight gear). However it is much more durable than other ultra-lightweight materials and has incredible tensile strength (it's ability to withstand tears). It can also take amazing amounts of pressure without breaking down. It isn't remarkably puncture proof, but really no nylon ripstop or polyester is. This material is also coated with a tacky silicon surface to help it from sliding around the tent.

                          The other major difference between this and the NeoTrekker is the highly reflective mylar sheet that helps to radiate heat back to the user. This increase it's R-Value by almost 2 points. The NeoTrekker doesn't have this reflective material inside the pad. The NeoAir is also about 5 oz. lighter and can pack smaller.

                          The NeoTrekker uses a polyester material instead of nylon. Polyester materials are less expensive than high-end nylons and don't have the same tensile strength for it's weight. However, the polyester used on the NeoTrekker has similar characteristics as the nylon on the NeoAir, but at a weight penalty. The polyester also has a brushed feel to it giving it a softer hand. Because the NeoTrekker lacks the noisy reflective mylar inside, it is much quieter if you are concerned about crinkly noise. I've used both pads and am not bothered by either although some have complained with the NeoAir.

                          In summary the NeoTrekker is more durable, quieter but less insulative and heavier than the NeoAir. It's also $40 cheaper. If these attributes are desirable, and the extra weight isn't a big deal, then the NeoTrekker is a tremendous pad. However, if size, weight, and extended season use (down to about 20 degrees F) is paramount without sacrificing comfort, albeit for the slight crinkly noise and a bit more money, the NeoAir stands supreme.

                          I also have both. I find the NeoAir seems a little more comfortable than the Trekker and NeoAir is a little warmer. The key is adjusting the correct air pressure to body weight. I also use the Thermarest air adapter that takes between 2-3 bags full of air to fill. Very little effort and lightweight compact inflation option.

                          I was wondering if there is a way to connect...

                          I was wondering if there is a way to connect two pads together?

                          Best Answer

                          Yes, there are a few different ways that you can achieve that.

                          1. Therm-a-Rest makes a down coupler that you could use to fit two pads together.

                          2. Therm-a-Rest makes a snap kit that allow you to snap them together however I've heard mixed feelings about how well they work and if people really want to glue them to their sleeping pads.

                          3. Exped makes a strap kit that basically has two straps that hold them together. I've used this method myself and it works fairly well though I haven't used the Exped kit.

                          If you look under Sleeping Pad Accessories you can see the snaps and the Exped straps(though the straps are out of stock unfortunately) and can see the reviews and info about them.

                          I'm using a Big Agnes Fish Hawk 30 degree...

                          I'm using a Big Agnes Fish Hawk 30 degree bag. Bag has pad sleeve with no insulaton on the bottom. Any experience using this pad w/ a Big Agnes bag?

                          This pad works just fine in Big Agnes bags (although in won't fit in their mummy bags). It takes a little work to get it in the sleeve, but it's not too hard if you insert it partially inflated (then fully inflate it after fully sliding it in the sleeve). As you've said, B.A. bags don't have insulation on the bottom. The NeoAir seems to hold heat fairly well, but in really cold weather you may want to go with a pad that has a higher R value (or a bag that has some insulation beneath you). Keeping the NeoAir more fully inflated can also help it to provide better insulation. Having said all this, I have been very comfortable in 30-40 degree weather with my Fish Hawk and NeoAir.

                          Would the NeoAir perform well on winter...

                          Would the NeoAir perform well on winter nights down to 10-15ºF without another pad underneath? I'm sleeping in a tent and I've got a down bag rated to -10ºF, but I sleep on the cold side. I probably "should" buy the Prolite Plus but I just tried this one and it's SO light and cushy... has me wondering whether I could get away with it in the cold!

                          Because the R-Value is at 2.5, I wouldn't recommend this pad for anything below 20 degrees F. You will really start to feel the cold coming through below this temp. One way of combating this is by using a closed-cell foam mattress like the Z-Lite or Ridgerest. Both of these pads will raise the R-Value past 5 which is adequate for around the 0 degree F mark. These pads are light and fairly inexpensive and are indestructable which is important when you are in cold environments.

                          The Prolite Plus is also a great choice. It's limit is around 10 degrees F (for an average warm sleeper) and packs pretty small.

                          Thanks, that's helpful! I think I'll try it out with a Z-Lite - I'm pretty amazed at how comfortable it is... Slept on it last night in my living room and feeling well rested today! Do you know what minimum temperatures different R-values correspond to? I tried googling for a chart but apparently my googling skills aren't up to snuff. Thanks!!

                          Best Answer

                          I agree with everything Livingston said, just a few things to add. I'm not an expert in R value, just experience, and it seems in the sub 20 to below freezing range there is a lot of opinion on the neoair. Some people (myself included) sleep fine around freezing on the neoair, while others recommend a pad underneath. I think a big play on this is the sleeping bag the person has, as well as the inflation level of the pad.

                          Keep in mind, while some like to underinflate the neoair for some more comformity and comfort, this decreases the distance between you and the ground thus decreasing insulation level, if it's cold, the neoair needs to be fully inflated. And it's always important to have a sleeping bag rated correctly.

                          I've never gotten in to R values, generally, in the colorado rockies (san isabel range) the general backpacking rule was over 2 inch thick for a pad below freezing and yer good. The neoair, fully inflated, with a -20 down bag, inside my Nemo Moki tent, has kept me toasty in -5F.

                          Hope this helps.

                          I absolutly love this pad. My wife got this for me last Christmas and we took it to Guadalupe National Park. The temp was easy 15 degrees F and I slept like a baby... well until I was woken up and asked to trade pads... Bottom line, you cant beat the weight or the comfort of the neo. If you get cold, toss a few hand warmers in your bag.

                          Is it slippery and/or noisy?

                          Is it slippery and/or noisy?

                          Best Answer

                          mjordan,

                          Slippery - This pad has a thin layer of silicone that does a pretty good job of gripping both tent floors and sleeping bags, so you need not worry too much about the pad being slippery.

                          Noisy - This is commonly brought up when talking about this pad. Due to the nature of the lightweight material it does make a little noise when there is movement on the pad (similar to the crinkling of a potato chip bag). For those using the pad this is a rarely an issue. The increase in comfort and decrease in weight are big enough bonuses that the noise is usually a negligible detractor. Most complaints I hear about noise are come from those sleeping next to the person one the pad (jealousy?).

                          If either you or the guy next to you are extremely light sleepers, then maybe remedy this with some earplugs, but this is still a great pad.

                          I spent 3 weeks on a neo air last year and the noise of the fabric was not a problem. I can't comment on slipperiness since I used the fitted sheet and ventra comforter. We got down to the lower 40's in Patagonia and it was very warm and cozy. My wife was not excited about tenting for weeks but she warmed to the idea after finding out how comfortable the set up is. I will not go back to a sleeping bag except for winter camping.