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I bought these for heavy storm skiing. They failed within a few times wearing them as they leak in the butt once you sit on a wet chairlift. The jacket/pant interface is worthless too as you can't zip it without doing it before you put on the pants and jacket. A full wrap zipper would work much easier as I have seen some from Helly Hansen, Volcom, and Burton utilize.
Blew em out...
Had to return these after a season and a half because the leg seam ripped all the way down to my knee...
Great pants until then though
Hidid you send to Poland?regardsKrzyszto...
Hidid you send to Poland?regardsKrzysztof
1. Add the items to your cart.2. Fill in your address & country3. If you can select Poland, your answer is "yes."4. If you cannot select Poland, your answer is "no."cheers
In regular pants (jeans) I wear a 32X32....
In regular pants (jeans) I wear a 32X32. Does the sizing on these pants go according to ski gear, ie looser fitting for layers underneath, or would you recommend going up a size, so medium to large, to allow room for layers? Thanks.
They do allow some room for layering but if you're planning on a lot of layering I'd size up.Great pants!
In crapy coastal wet skiing conditions these pants worked great!Very tough pants,I would consider wearing them for construction work in inclement weather conditions.To nice a pant to get dirty though!
I would only use them on short hikes and ski tours because they tend to overheat.
Unless you were hiking in extremely cold conditions!
They fit a little tight if you have a hockey butt,or bubbble butt when you get into a squat position!
Found a flaw
Found a pretty bad flaw skiing in these with high winds. The vent zips are poorly protected and when I had wind from behind I could feel the wind right through the vent zipper (it's one long continuous zipper across your rear). Unacceptable... my cheap hyvent north face pants don't have this flaw and I won't accept it from $400 pants.
Yep, Not Pro Shell!
Heh wow I just made the same discovery in these pants while reading the tags on mine... Performance Shell instead of the Pro Shell listed here. Pretty amazing pant otherwise. If you want high-end then this is it.
Free Thinker is Gore Tex Performance Shell
Expect Gore Tex Performance Shell not GT Pro Enduro when you order these pants.
GORE TEX PERFORMANCE, not PRO
After ordering a pair of the FREE THINKER pant, I discovered that The North Face has been marketing these pants incorrectly/falsely. They are advertised as being 3 layer Gore Tex Pro, when in reality, they are 3 layer Gore Tex Performance Shell. Not a huge difference, but for $400, I would expect "top of the line". Considering the fact that there are several alternatives for less than $400 and are made with Gore Tex Pro, I was a little disappointed. Other than that, I would actually rate the pant as a 5 star pant. They are well built, have everything you would ever need. Sizing is pretty true to size, but the lower leg is huge. Great suspenders. You wont be disappointed in the pant, unless (like I was) you are expecting a Gore Tex 3 layer Pro material.
Actually Gore Tex Performance Shell
After receiving the pants I discovered that they are actually 3 layer Gore Tex Performance Shell, not Gore Tex Pro as advertised by the North Face themselves (a lengthy chat with The North Face actually made them aware of the inaccuracy in their description). They are just that, a 3 layer SHELL, so a good, breathable base layer is a must. Regardless, these are incredible pants. Absolutely bulletproof and very high quality. Fit is pretty accurate, fairly loose around the lower leg. I would recommend them.
How do these compare to Patagonia Light...
How do these compare to Patagonia Light Smoke Flash pants?
In my opinion this is a better way to go unless you're only snowboarding. Then the fit might be a little better on the Patagonia's as they're much baggier. GoreTex just works better than anything else, again in my opinion. Suspenders are really a plus usually, and these will fit better for skiing. Both are nice but I think these are going to be better overall.
For deep powder days this has turned out to be a really good pair of pants. The suspenders fit really well and these things are bombproof. The suspenders are detachable which is also a nice feature. Sizing seems to be dead on. Wish they came in more colors.
Hi, My regular inseam is 29" with a 40"...
Hi, My regular inseam is 29" with a 40" waist. Do these come in an XL short? Joe
no short inseam available according to the TNF website. They make them, but nobody online has them. You'll have to deal with the length or get them professionally altered.
Write your question here...I need these...
Write your question here...I need these in the short length, can they be ordered
You'll have to look for them in one of the stores. If anybody would have them in stock online it would be Backcountry.com, but no luck. Not sure if these guys can do special order or not. Outerwear is usually ordered by retailers about 7 months in advance at the SIA show in Las Vegas. I suggest calling the North Face store in Boulder, Co.
Whats better. the free thinker pant or the...
Whats better. the free thinker pant or the freedom insulated pant? I have tried on the freedom pant and I like them, but will the free thinker pant keep me warm enough?
I use the Freedom and love them. I personally don't think the suspenders are necessary, especially if you don't get a bib with it. The Freedom are warm enough bombing waist deep in -5 weather, but when you're hiking Highland Bowl, just unzip the side vents and they don't get sweaty at all. I'd definitely go with the Freedom.