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The North Face Free Thinker II Jacket - Men's - 2009 BCS

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Free Thinker II Jacket - Men's
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The North Face Men’s Free Thinker II Jacket provides bomber protection from the elements during your heli skiing trip in the Chugach or ski mountaineering expedition in the Wrangell-St Elias range. The Free Thinker II’s Gore-Tex Pro Shell fabric seals out moisture, even in the gnarliest of conditions, while letting your perspiration escape so you don’t get clammy.

  • A Recco avalanche rescue reflector might help patrollers or guides find you in a backcountry emergency
  • Helmet-compatible hood seals out wind and snow
  • For head-to-toe coverage, use the Pant-a-locks system to clip your pants to the Free Thinker

Bottom Line: Go big … or go to a resort.

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Rating for this product: 5

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March 9, 2012

been a pro-guide in Alaska's backcountry for years. Thank you for letting the guides put input into the free-thinker jacket. A little tweeking is still needed though. The usual places,( elbows, shoulders ) my chief complaint still is waterproofing. It seems after 1 good season the waterproofing goes to Sh--...

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Can anyone recommend a good fleece or softshell for under this

Can anyone recommend a good fleece or softshell for under this jacket?

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March 15, 2010

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Mountain hardwear monkey man has great loft for layering. Or the mountain hardwear tech jacket if you want something more versatile because it has windstopper. Of course if you want The North Face, there is always the denali and the denali wind pro.

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March 29, 2010

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Rating for this product: 5

This is one great looking jacket

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February 24, 2010

I recently bought this jacket after returning an Arc'teryx Theta AR... reason being the TNF just has more features. Not only does the Free Thinker feel bombproof, but it looks great too, with the contrasting zippers and two tone fabric. My only complaint is that the goggle pocket is a little small, but having the other pockets makes up for that. I wanted to like Arc'teryx, but there minimalist aproach just didnt work for me. The Free Thinker isnt cheap, but its replacing my old TNF Mountain Guide which lasted me 5 years so far. Like one of the other reviews said, when you go with TNF Gore-tex you are getting a great product.

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Does anyone else hate the new/lack of colors in the free thinker

Does anyone else hate the new/lack of colors in the free thinker line? I've got the orange from a few seasons ago and absolutely love it. Someday it'll need replaced, but I'll be going Arc'Teryx unless TNF steps up their color selections. Terribly drab this year.

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February 19, 2010

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Rating for this product: 5

The Ultimate on the hill...

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December 4, 2009

Bought this and the Free Thinker pants as a combo last season before setting out on the Haute Route (Three days training in Chamonix in wet spring snow, prior to setting out, convinced me that my old combo was well past its best..).
Despite the heavy initial financial investment, I wasn't disappointed. The jacket has every feature you'd want or require for both backcountry/ski mountaineering and resort use, and the heavier face fabric TNF has used gives a totally bombproof feel when the weather turns truly nasty. With the heavier fabric easily repelling the wind and the full-spec snow skirt preventing drafts, I was able to ski in this with just a merino baselayer beneath, despite blizzard conditions on the last day of the tour. Even during rest stops on cols the jacket seemed to just shrug the weather off and felt well within its limits. As the stiffer Pro-Shell lined fabric 'stands off' more than say an equivalent Pac-lite shell, there seems to be less direct thermal loss to the outside, and as a result the micro-climate is maintained at a cozy level inside the shell.
To be fair to North Face, although the Free Thinker is at the top end of the price range for their range of jackets, it's still reasonably priced compared to some of the main European ski brands; it's more technically designed and built, will probably withstand much more abuse in the long run (certainly in a true mountain environment vs resort skiing), and has the advantage of branded Gore-Tex Pro Shell waterproofing, rather than some own-brand laminate with unproven performance claims.
If all-conditions touring or rough-and-tumble freeride is your thing, then this jacket is probably the one to go for. When matched with the pants you have bunker-level protection from the elements and something which is going to repay the initial investment several seasons over.

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What's the weight of this jacket?

What's the weight of this jacket?

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February 18, 2010

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Weight: 2.1 lbs

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February 18, 2010

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Rating for this product: 5

Best. Jacket. Ever

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August 29, 2009

I've never been one to blow such a big chunk of change on anything, but this jacket was worth every penny. There's a reason this is the official patrol uniform at Silverton Mountain: it's a bomber jacket that can't be beat.
Though it's not really insulated, the Gore-Tex Pro Shell keeps heat well while still breathing, the most I've ever needed to layer with it was a fleece top on a really cold day. It was a bit hot for the sunny spring days though. Pockets abound everywhere on this jacket; if you can't find a spot for everything you're carrying too much (the large front pockets fit a small water bottle perfectly). Open pit zips ventilate incredibly well, and the powder skirt keeps the fluff out (the "pant-a-locks" even work with standard belt loops). My older model had a smaller hood, the new helmet-compatible one is a welcome upgrade. Runs pretty big, I normally wear large and the medium is a loose fit.
Bottom Line: It looks great and performs great on anything you care to ski or board. Maybe not the best deal on the market, but you will not regret the purchase.

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Hey, I'm 5'7'' and weigh around 185 lbs. Should

Hey, I'm 5'7'' and weigh around 185 lbs. Should I go for a medium in this jacket ?

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February 15, 2010

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I've ordered the large... Tried the Mammatus in both lage and meduim and I presume these jackets runs the same size. Do they ??

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February 26, 2010

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Fredrik,

I would go with a large. This jacket is a shell, and if you wanted to layer underneath a Medium may not provide adequate room to do so. If it way too large you can always exchange for a Medium.

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February 15, 2010

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Rating for this product: 4

A few design oddities

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February 9, 2010

I recently had a chance to check out this jacket, and was pretty impressed. This jacket is water tight, no question. I just have an issue with a few design oddities for a jacket. The hood is attached. Not removeable, not stowable, although it IS 3 way adjustable. All inside pockets are on the right side, accessible with the left hand. Lefties rejoice, but most people are right handed. The sleeves seem extra roomy, Popeye would have no problems stuffing his abnormal forarms in them. There are many things to like as well: The material does seem rugged, it isn't going to tear easily, and has a slight sheen to it. A few patches of microfleece added on each shoulder, around the back of the collar, on the back of the neck and at the chin add some comfort with negligible affect on wieght. All external zippers including pitzips are water tight. The hand pockets are huge - ample storage, but not lined. Without having really tested it in rugged conditions yet, this is more a review on function than performance. I'm not worried about it's performance, but can't get over wondering why they put ALL the inside pockets on the "wrong" side.

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Does the hood fit over most helmets?

Does the hood fit over most helmets?

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February 4, 2010

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Yes. Helmet compatible.

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February 4, 2010

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Rating for this product: 4

ProShell...

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April 11, 2010

Bomb proof jacket- 3 layers of ProShell and there's no way you're getting wet in this thing. Note it's just a shell like the other reviews say, so you'll have to layer underneath. I've used it skiing a few times and never had a problem getting wet. Pant-a-lock is a really nice system too- will keep the powder out for sure. One thing- it's cut a bit boxy, so if your slender it may be a little big.

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I'm 6'4 200lbs and have ridiculously long arms. it's

I'm 6'4 200lbs and have ridiculously long arms. it's a pain in the butt finding jackets with sleeves that are long enough. my last jacket was a burton ronin xxl that fit perfectly but am in the market for a new. will this jacket in xxl possibly work?

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December 30, 2009

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I think xxl should be good!

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December 31, 2009

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Rating for this product: 5

Great Jacket.

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March 4, 2010

I've had a free thinker jacket for ~5 years (pre off-kiltered zipper). This jacket is awesome. I have abused this jacket and it still doesnt show wear, simply bombproof. I've hit evergreen branches in the breckenridge, rub rock at snowbird, snagged a sharp tree limbs at snowmass. I have the black/grey color and wish they sold it with some color. Apparently, i blend right in with the masses and am hard to pick out. The hood fits over my helmet, the powder skirt is great, the goretex is still hanging tough.
My model did have some 'stripping' on it for aesthetic purposes, which started to come off. I sent it back to NF in the offseason and they fixed for free. I have nothing bad to say about this jacket.

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I just read the reviews from last year for the Free Thinker shell

I just read the reviews from last year for the Free Thinker shell regarding sizing , and I'm glad I did! It seems pretty unanimous that it runs pretty big. I tried on a TNF Various Guide jacket in a size L at a local store (since they did not carry the Free Thinker) and assumed I would need an XL in the Free Thinker to allow for layering (I'm 5' 11" and 210 lbs.). Does the fit of the different styles (or series) of North Face jackets vary that much? Based on all the reviews I've read, I'm thinking a size L would be my proper size,and still allow room for layering. I don't want to make a $600.00 mistake!

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November 30, 2009

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i'm 5'11 and about 175-180# with a lean muscular build...the L seems a bit small (kind of restricted in the back when i cross my arms)...i will be returning the jacket for an XL...so in my opinion i don't feel like this jacket runs large...in fact i think it is about the same as any other north face jacket...my new triclimate XL is much larger...hope this helps

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January 8, 2010

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Im 6'4 220 Athletic build and I wear a Large. It has a streamline tapered fit on me which I like. I also have an Agency in XL which fits larger. Hope this helps. Fitting online can be a b*%$#

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December 9, 2009

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When I bought my Free Thinker last season I was about your height, and a bit fatter and the L fit terrifically. Still fits great with losing quite a bit of weight. I would say an L for sure.

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December 1, 2009

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The sizing can vary quite a bit depending upon the intended use of the jacket. The Free Thinker does run big, so I would definitely go with the large in your case.
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November 30, 2009

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Rating for this product: 5

Awesome Jacket!!!

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January 26, 2010

Love this jacket. It's SOO waterproof. Love the GoreTex Pro shell. Fantastic. All kinds of places to store stuff. Like the goggle pocket, phone pocket, and being ear-bud ready. Fit is good. I'm pretty barrel-chested and amusually an XL in most jackets. I'm a Large in this one. Like others have said, it's cut a bit different than most shells like this that I've had/worn. Once you get used to it, you'll like it. Plenty of room in the arms, length is good. I like my jackets a little long and that's the cut of this one. The place where you'll have the most 'getting used to' is in the upper chest and under the arms. It's a little snug, but like I was saying there's no restriction in the arm movement. I would absolutely recomend it to friends, just wish it wasn't so dang expensive. ;-P

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I am looking for this item (Northface Free Thinker II Men's

I am looking for this item (Northface Free Thinker II Men's Jacket) in XXL Arctic Pool Blue. Can it be special ordered since you do not have it in stock??

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November 5, 2009

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Hey Paul! The 2009 version of this jacket only has Iceland Blue, so I assume that's what you are trying to order. The other thing is that this jacket runs large! I normally wear a Large and the Medium is a perfect fit, if not loose. So you may want to size down to the XL which is in stock. Hope this helps.

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November 12, 2009

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Rating for this product: 5

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January 10, 2010

I bought this jacket for the yearly snowtrip with a pair of arc'teryx theta sv bib pants. I wore underarmour top and bottoms, a layer of thermal top and bottoms, a northface denali jacket, then the theta and freethinker 2 jacket. I was absolutely warm and completely 100% dry even after sliding on my backside all the way down a black diamond. Well worth the money not to be wet. I stayed out from lifts open to lifts closed. If you want to have a good time, stay dry. If you want to stay dry, buy this jacket and the arcteryx bib pants.

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Rating for this product: 5

Solid "A"

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January 9, 2010

This jacket stops the "top-of-the-mountain", bone chilling wind like very few jackets can. I've even worn it in freezing rain and it still kept me dry. It could stop a bullet. I can't say enough about it. The price tag is high for a reason. To be sure TNF makes less expensive ski jackets--for casual skiers and other demographics (street clothes for hip hop fans?), but this one is the real deal and is worth every cent. Layer as needed and you are good to go. I generally take a Men's Large, but in this jacket Medium was better. Backcountry swapped it for me--no problems.

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Rating for this product: 4

nice and thoughtful.

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September 29, 2009

I'm 5'8 165lbs, I usually wear Medium but Small fits perfectly with enough space for layers. with the price, I expected 3-way adjustable hood but it's only 2-way. This jacket is best for ski or snowboard, if you want a nice 3 layer gore tex mountaineering jacket, you might want to consider Arc'teryx Alpha or theta.

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Rating for this product: 5

Awesome jacket, but durability is questionable.

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November 3, 2009

I love this jacket. All the reviews lauding its light weight, waterproof/breathability performance, packability, features, etc. are spot on. There are a ton of pockets and room for everything, while maintaining a fairly trim fit. It also looks totally sweet.

One unfortunate and major issue is the construction. I washed it in my machine on a delicate cycle with Nikwax Tech Wash and when I took it out, the seam tape was coming off inside under the left armpit. This was highly disappointing. I'm going to contact TNF to see if they will fix it, but I really hope that this doesn't happen with the rest of the jacket. I've worn the jacket a total of 20 days, if that much.

Otherwise, this jacket is great.

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Rating for this product: 4

meh, not into northface shells anymore

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January 3, 2010

Well, i went for the Arc'teryx Alpha LT Jacket because the color, fit, feel, was better. I also like the minimalist approach. The free thinker has some really cool features but it kinda over kill for me. I do a lot more than snow board and this jacket is geared for that...

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Change me.

ski alaska

5 star rating

By: Shaggyy66 March 9, 2012

been a pro-guide in Alaska's backcountry for years. Thank you for letting the guides put input into the free-thinker jacket. A little tweeking is still more...

This is one great looking jacket

5 star rating

By: Scott P. February 24, 2010

I recently bought this jacket after returning an Arc'teryx Theta AR... reason being the TNF just has more features. Not only does the Free Thinker more...

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Material:
[Shell] Gore-Tex 3-Layer Pro Shell Enduro nylon 
Waterproof Rating:
Guaranteed waterproof 
Breathable Rating:
Guaranteed breathable 
Core Venting:
Underarm zips 
Pockets:
2 Hand, 1 chest, 1 sleeve, 1 internal goggle, 1 internal media, 1 internal cell 
Seam Taped:
Yes, fully 
Powder Skirt:
Yes 
Hood:
Yes 
Zip-in Compatibility:
No 
Recommended Use:
Big-mountain skiing / riding, ski / board mountaineering, expedition 
Manufacturer Warranty:
Lifetime