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The X10 is the very latest from the Suunto laboratories, and it’s the lightest GPS-enabled wrist computer they have ever offered. With the X10, you can track your outdoor adventures in four dimensions, or use Suunto’s Trek Manager software to pre-plan your route ahead of time. While you’re out in the wilderness, use the barometer and compass to keep you headed in the right direction while you keep an eye on the weather. Record your speed, distance, and altitude along 500 GPS waypoints, then upload them to Google Earth at home to show your friends just how deep into uncharted territory you ventured. Improved GPS reception allows quicker fixes in deeper cover than ever before.
Besides having a GPS feature that will save you in white conditions or help you chart and share your adventure with friends my favorite feature about this watch is the graphical view options you have for watching the barometer and getting a more accurate idea of what is happening with the pressure. This is crucial when you are waiting for a window and have to decide when to go big on a climb!
Pros: This thing really is ridic. It can tell you what time it is, the pressure, temp (to some accuracy), location in MGRS and just about every other way mankind uses to find him/herself on a map. It is hands down the most comfortable watch I've worn as well.
This watch does everything its advertised to do. But you will notice time, durability, and customer service are not advertised.
Cons: -Time: in reference to the GPS receiver finding the satellites needed and then actually getting a fix on your location. While sitting indoors for the past 10 minutes it has yet to find a single satellite, let alone a fix. While standing outside in the middle of an open air parking lot it roughly 3-3.5 mins to find 3 satellites another minute to two to find another 3 from which it was only triangulating off of 3 of them. Now compare that to my Garmin Foretrex 401, which took roughly 30-40 seconds to get a fix outside, that is where my frustration with the Suunto lies in terms of time. Furthermore, once under tree cover, turn the GPS on your Suunto, pull out your MRE, eat it, check, and it might be ready for you then.
-Durability: After about two weeks of wearing it in garrison (i.e. not out in the field beating it up, just doing office stuff) I noticed the plastic bezel that protects what I believe is the GPS antenna started to pop off on the left side of the watch, after just trying to pop it down thinking the plastic latch might have popped out of place, the problem persisted. After four weeks, I spent a week in the field with it. Although the bezel didnt break it was no lifting further off. This now brings me to customer service
-Custom Service: I thought Suunto had really good customer service but this was not my experience. Although sending in was easy enough, it was returned with no noticeable work having been done. Now perhaps they did work on it but it only seemingly made it worse
My advice: go with a Casio pathfinder series watch for time and a Garmin foretrex if you are going to be out in the field and need a durable watch and functional GPS. Also if you were planning on trying to use this thing at Ranger School, the RIs generally check the watches, more over if you really cant pass that land nav course, you need to seriously rethink yourself as a leader
Also, unimpressed with battery life...maybe my expectation were to high or I got a lemon...
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Pros: This thing really is ridic. It can tell you what time it is, the pressure, temp (to some accuracy), location in MGRS and just about every other way mankind uses to find him/herself on a map. It is hands down the most comfortable watch I've worn as well.
This watch does everything its advertised to do. But you will notice time, durability, and customer service are not advertised.
Cons: -Time: in reference to the GPS receiver finding the satellites needed and then actually getting a fix on your location. While sitting indoors for the past 10 minutes it has yet to find a single satellite, let alone a fix. While standing outside in the middle of an open air parking lot it roughly 3-3.5 mins to find 3 satellites another minute to two to find another 3 from which it was only triangulating off of 3 of them. Now compare that to my Garmin Foretrex 401, which took roughly 30-40 seconds to get a fix outside, that is where my frustration with the Suunto lies in terms of time. Furthermore, once under tree cover, turn the GPS on your Suunto, pull out your MRE, eat it, check, and it might be ready for you then.
-Durability: After about two weeks of wearing it in garrison (i.e. not out in the field beating it up, just doing office stuff) I noticed the plastic bezel that protects what I believe is the GPS antenna started to pop off on the left side of the watch, after just trying to pop it down thinking the plastic latch might have popped out of place, the problem persisted. After four weeks, I spent a week in the field with it. Although the bezel didnt break it was no lifting further off. This now brings me to customer service
-Custom Service: I thought Suunto had really good customer service but this was not my experience. Although sending in was easy enough, it was returned with no noticeable work having been done. Now perhaps they did work on it but it only seemingly made it worse
My advice: go with a Casio pathfinder series watch for time and a Garmin foretrex if you are going to be out in the field and need a durable watch and functional GPS. Also if you were planning on trying to use this thing at Ranger School, the RIs generally check the watches, more over if you really cant pass that land nav course, you need to seriously rethink yourself as a leader
Also, unimpressed with battery life...maybe my expectation were to high or I got a lemon...
I've read in at least one review that the Military / reverse display version of this watch does not work well in low-light conditions. Has anyone out there compared the visibility of both styles of this watch?
Dude, do you need to call in artillery strikes on bears raiding your stash?
The military version is designed to work well with $13,000.00 state of the art night vision goggles - for obvious reasons the low light function is REALLY low light! A glow is not a glow if the light is too bright and causes your NVGs to bloom out so you cannot see...
Also, a little search foo on the Suunto web site would have answered this question.
"The Suunto X10 Military Watch adds to the already full-featured X10 a red back light and a compass that measures in mils or degrees."
In reality, it does not matter. If stealthiness is what you want, place tape over the crystal. It will stop the reflection. A glow is a glow when seen through night vision. Before spending the money, think about what watch that you really need. Don't pay for items that sound cool, but are not needed.
I've used both, and the negative face doesn't have as much contrast as the positive face; that being said, I've never had any trouble reading the negative, and in this case (X10M)the black face is necessary for the "stealthy-ness" and comes with a red backlight for keeping night vision accute.
I received an X10M as a replacement for my X9Mi after extended use. The widely reported problem of the bezel separating from the watch seems to finally be resolved.
Battery life is greatly improved in this version and initial acquisition time is also much faster. I use this watch to log my track on trail runs, bike rides, and adventures in the mountains. I rarely lose GPS signal after waiting a few minutes for a good lock before starting out.
The one thing I hoped would change and have wanted since first getting an X9 is the ability to independently set the altimeter recording interval. It is fixed based on GPS recording interval. When I just want to record altitude (GPS off), the resolution of altitude recordings tend to under-report total vertical as I have already transitioned on the summit and started my descent before it ever gets a chance to record a data point at the summit.
You are right, the software is hugely lacking in use ability and functionality. I have never created a route in the software but I have used it to generate waypoints. Import an image\topo file and then you have to give 2 known points of reference. It's been a while since I did this but I will try to write it up for you when I get a chance.
Jerimy, I have an X10 and cannot figure out how to create and upload a route to save my ass. That horrible software seems useless. I can't see why they don't integrate with Google Earth. I'm mattwaggener@gmail.com.
I understand the included software is no compatible with a mac. However can i extract the track datq from the watch with the usb connection using mac to geotag photos or load into google earth.
The Suunto provided software is not compatible with a Mac's OSX. It requires Windows, which can be operated on a Mac via Bootcamp or an emulation app (like Parallels). As for extracting with a Mac for use with another program, there is no indication that it is possible either. The only write-ups to date have been to use a Windows-based machine (or an OS emulator or Bootcamp) to extract the information and then to port to a Mac program. While USB is the connection, the software still must know the protocol to retrieve the information from the X10.It's unfortunate that Suunto appears to be unwilling to support the Mac platform. Based on various forums this has been a point of contention for many. Someone did build a third party app for downloading some of the Suunto dive watches to a Mac, but no such luck for the rest of us.
I understand the included software is no compatible with a mac. However can i extract the track datq from the watch with the usb connection using mac to geotag photos or load into google earth.
As the owner of the X-Lander, I was familiar with Suunto products. I ordered the X10 with great anticipation, but was very disappointed.
I knew it had limitations -- poor battery life (making it unable to track for long backpacking trips unless a power source is avaialble) and no support for Mac OSX (or allowance for third party development apparently), but I could rationalize and work around them (or so I thought).
For something with such great promise, the unit requires too many button actions to get it operating. Even after those travails, which I figured would become faster with time, I found that it would lose GPS lock on a casual (ie, not fast) walk of a couple miles. This was confirmed a couple times. Upon returning each time I was greeted with the provided software, which is quite poor in design and operations. Yes, this goes well beyond a typical Mac vs. Windows bias.
While a nice try, and perhaps perfectly suited for GPS junkies, the X10 needs a lot of refinement.
Too bad this review doesn't have a negative star scale. I am a soldier and was in a scout PLT for 2 deployments. I went through 2 of them and went back to my Garmin. We got these to mark grids and blah blah...anyway, they break\tear so easy and to get them repaired or replaced is a long wait + a pain in the a$$. The place here in the states acts like they are doing me a favor fixing thier product that broke a 3rd of the way through it's first year. l Battery life sucks and they are the opposite of intuitive. they ride right at the wrist and the frame and band are one piece so there is no give or flex so the bezel just pops out\off. The strap will tear if you try to push off a wall or door. FORGET about wearing it to the gym, if you flex your wrist during presses it will tear the band or pop the bezel regardless of how tight or loose you wear the buckle. My cheap casio lasted 3 times as long and didn't die on me in the middle of the trip. Thank God I didn't pay for them but I guess we all did with taxpayers money. Suunto sucks and are stealing from the taxpayers. IF you do buy this thing write down the # on the back because it will wear off and that is what the shop INSISTS on referencing to see if it is even covered still, trust me you are going to need it. Minus 5 stars.
The Suunto X10 can use both, and if you have it on sync mode it will correct any barometric readings when it has a strong satellite lock for GPS. When it is locked on multiple satellites, this is most accurate. If you don't have satellite locks, it has the advantage over other GPS of running on barometric pressure
I know this is about the X9 not the X10 but bear with me here. I am in the miltary and was lookin to reduce number of items and weight. So I thought combining watch with GPS was a good idea. I recieved the first one read instructions and charged it. Never turned on at all. Called this sites customer service (they ROCK! there are none better) and they sent a new one no questions and when they finally recieved the other one my card was credited back the money. Mind you I was even shipping to a APO address. Second one comes and it turns on and charges ok (when youre charging it you can't use it). I am in Iraq and there is nothing but flat terrain for the most part except in cities. SO I try it out in open area, no obstructions for runs and walking. GPS is fickle on tracking at best and the menu really takes some getting used to. I thought well, even as an emergency backup GPS it would still serve its purpose. What I didnt realize when I bought this was that you're only gonna get about 500 charges off this battery (if that) according to the manual, then you gotta send it back to Finland to get a new one installed cause they dont do it at the watch store anywhere in US. Why not just make it so you can replace the battery at home? Anyway, you can do the math on how long that will last. Not worth it. Here's my question, has the X10 fixed these issues? I saw the charger offered as a free gift so that helps I guess, but the other stuff in my mind is more important.
BTW the Garmin Foretrex 101 is the heat and no matter what I try I keep coming back to this one for reliable GPS function. It's small compact, GPS locks on anytime everytime even after traveling to another country it took like 30 sec to lock on, it even locked on inside the airplane in a window seat in flight!, and runs off 2 AAA batteries. Only draw backs are its not really a watch you can leave on during youre normal day to day activites, so I use my Suunto Vector for that. Also the wristband pins in Garmin Foretrex models SUCK and rip right out guarrenteed (metal pin in plastic hole). London Bridge Trading Company makes a see through velcro wrist carrier and it made it through my entire tour 16 months no issues. The two together are spot on. Good luck out there, hope this helped. Let me know about the X10 thanks.
From pg. 22 of the manual. The posible position formats are Deg, Dm, Grid, UTM, and MGRS.http://media.suunto.com/media/suunto/manuals/en_US/X10_usermanual_EN_v3_m56577569830772287.pdf
Cool features, worst quality. In for warranty repair 15 months during first two years I owned it. No extended warranty. Failed again canyoneering, out of warranty. Water inside from wading in and out of pools, messed up functions, no better 2 months later. Throwing out looking for replacement.
Owned for 3 years, in for repair 12 months of that time. Just went Canyoneering in Utah, water inside, functionality gone. Need to check on the warranty, but will probably discard. Service was so poor the previous 3 times I had to send it in, I won't pay for it.
I've bought the X10 last year, after receiving the watch, I was not happy with the overall cheap feel of the overall body and quality the time showing was very difficult to read and amazingly, they have a dim light light display on a dark background......the I noticed I could rub off the *cheap* rubber mat finish on the body surrounding the bezel with a light nail scratch...then after wearing for 2 days the cheap plastic cover surrounding the watch proper fell off....I sent it to repair and after numerous emails (they had lost the watch!!) and 3 months later I got the watch and after wearing same for 18 minutes the g%$##@am plastic face fell off again...noticed that the repair shop had simply put a tiny amount of crazy glue? inside...I have to send the thing back again and pay shipping...completely pissed off and I DO NOT RECOMMEND THE WATCH
I read your review about the watch and I am looking into getting this for my boyfreind who is huge into hiking, backpacking and all around backcountry adventures. What would you suggest instead of this watch?
This watch like many others that claims waterproof to a certain number of feet like 330, is a test more in theory than in practice. The test is conducted in static conditions, thus no movement of buttons or any changes in water currents etc.. It would not be gaunteed to work under fluid conditions at that depth and honestly after my experience with the X9 highly unlikely this would even survive a static test at 50ft. The cheap glue holding the face plate on is not exactly dive rated. This is an expensive toy not for any serious adventures or diving!
Yeah kiere is right on, Also pushing buttons underwater is not advisable, and definitely not for diving! I hope this model is better than the X9mi which fell apart twice!
If you have a little brain is really easy to use (u have to read a little the manual) the only hard part is uploading maps, but from there everything else its really cool
Suunto will be going to a web-based interface, which will solve all the PCvs.Mac issues. Should be out spring '10. You can still use Google Earth and Topo interface, just not the Trek Manager, which is basically just graphs.
The paper user's manual is near 1/2" thick, and has 8 languages - all of which give you VERY little to work with. I downloaded the pdf version from Suunto's website, and it's much more detailed. I'm a first-time Suunto watch owner, but I've had a field compass, which also had a very lacking manual. Something about Suunto, I guess.
End of story, if you want to buy Suunto, then eat your weaties because you'll need all the brain power you have to figure your gadgets out.
Yes the militray version I know has a red backlight as amy mentioned, and brightness can be adjusted. Other models I am not sure, but I would assume a different color same thing
I carefully selected this watch and after reading all the reviews I could I chose this watch based on its features and the fact that I use Suunto dive equipment. Early on in my research faze I became aware of the problem of the front of the watch "popping off", later still aparantly this had been rectified so I went ahead with my purchase. Within a month of receiving my watch the pop off face problem happened, this happens by normal use of the buttons on the side selecting gps, using timers, anything that requires the pushing of the button seemed to cause the face to push that little bit further of the body. I returned mine to Suunto, 3 times always with the same problem, I cant fault there customer service they have been excellent and after the 3rd time have replaced my watch for a new one. The problem has started to happen again, so in order to combat the pop off I use the buttons sparingly, not really why I bought the watch but as far as I am concerned a good featured watch with a bad build design flaw. I also know of two others that have had the same problem so thats 4 watches in total.
So in summery, would I buy this watch again? NO Would i reccomend this watch? NO Would I buy/ Use Suunto products again? Yes and still do, as I said good customer service and my dive equipment is fine.
Ok, I have read a few reviews and I just want to tell my story. I am not some outdoor adventurer nor to I get my kicks trying to find some hidden treasure in the middle of nowhere. I was required to do Land Navigation for the military. To be specific, if I didnt pass, I would be kicked out of the program. My career depended on me being able to go from the start point to a MGRS grid coordinate and write down the letters I found on a sign posted in the ground. Then off to the next point. Now, since I dont leave anything involving my career to chance, I needed to find a GPS that was covert and dependable. The X10 military is it! GPS devices are forbidden so the watch application was perfect! Understand though that this watch is popular and should not be shown off to anyone. I was able to use this in two ways. First, I was able to put in the MGRS grid and walk right to my point EVERY time. I could walk around lakes, swamps and other features in the middle of November and stay dry because this device always pointed towards my target point. The second way I used it was that I set it just to display my current grid position. That way I could call in air support, or relay my position and observations to the command post. I could also use my current position setting to find where I was on the map at all times. This was helpful when I was teamed up with someone and had to make sure they did not see me walking while looking at my watch the whole time. To answer the battery issue addressed by others... Yes, if you set the watch to update your GPS location every second, it will last you a about 6 to 8 hours. I set mine to every minute and it lasted 3 days. The best way to do it is set the gps location to report manually. That means, when you pressed the button to tell you what your location is, it told you and then shut the gps back off. I have had my watch last a month on the manual setting. In short, if you are a military guy looking to pass that land nav course this is the watch for you! And for in the field operations that no one cares if you have electronics. I have a solar charger that I clip to my uniform (LBV) during the day and at night in the tent, I plug in my watch and it charges it to full capacity. This watch may not be my primary device in real world operations but it is certainly a great device for recreational, back-up, emergency and covert operations. I love it and will continue to buy suunto watches until anyone else can build a less expensive better product.
sick to my stomch reading this. i pray to god your not leading my boys when this p.o.s watch fails you. Its people like you, that make me work on men in the field because you lead them into harms way. integrity... GET SOME
I'm also a soldier and have passed several land nav exams WITHOUT cheating. I took those tests with hundreds of other soldiers and none of us cheated or would stand for those who did.
I pray to God you're not leading other soldiers. Because when your blue force tracker fails and they're looking to you to guide them, you're all F-ed.
ok.. first of all for you " gotta do it for me's" forget it u actually have to leave your lounger. Sorry I had a wine or 2 more than I should have ... but no problem I know exactly where I am lost thanks to this bloody watch and I will just track back through the house to find the fidge;... shit hot watches. ok also used it to check the calibrating speed of my sports car ... +/- 2 km per hour at 100 kmph... well done
absolutely the worst investment of my life. i bought this watch before heading off to Mt. Kilimanjaro in Sept 2010. throughout my entire 7 day hike, while i was anywhere between 3000 meters 5,895 meters, the watche's altimeter was always 300-400 meters away from the actual altitude where i was standing. even the confirmed summit at 5,895m was 300 meters inaccurate!! after reaching home, i returned the watch to the store, and i am now looking for another similar watch for my next trip to Mt. Elbrus. Hope i find a better alternative. a disappointment from Suunto. Unexpected......
I was looking for a simple GPS for hiking and running (x-y location, speed, route tracking, predetermined routes to follow); I found a cool gadget that does all I wanted, plus some extras. The GPS fix is usually under two minutes, and tracks mostly within 5m but sometimes within 15m of where I was when on a run, and sometimes does loose the signal completely in canyons and next to rock faces (as does most other GPS units). The track-back is fun to have, and works pretty good, as does the preloaded waypoint track feature. I have not been able to find an easy reference set of images that are prereferenced when loaded into the suunto software....so I end having to rereference all images and topos for preloading waypoints using google earth for reference points. Once the prewaypoints/the route are/is made, the loading up of these into the Suunto X10 is easy, as is following the route. Making kmz files for google earth is easy as there are tons of converters on line that will do this for you. I really like the speed (usually pretty spot on, but does have some funky numbers at times), and on the move functions....but I wish there was a way to reset the starting time to 0. When beginning a run, I need to wait for the GPS to initiate and get a fix...this usually adds up to two minutes on any run I do (hence affectingthe overall speed average) and if I could reset this to 0 after an initial fix, it would function the way I need it. The suunto software is a bit clunky to use, but it works...just keep pushing buttons, it is free after all. A clearcoat finish on the rubber is peeling and I hope this is not going to be a problem with the 100m water proofing as I intend to go swimming/fishing/playing in and near the water with it when the season warms up. Battery life is about 6-8 hours while using the GPS which is perfect for my use and I do intend to purchase the solar charger for longer than day trips planned this summer. The GPS sits ok on my wrist, but I could see how some wrists might be too small. Overal, it does what I want and gives a comparable location to the other gps units I have. The features are good and easy to manuver for viewing different things. Except for me not knowing if I can reset the average speed once the gps is on and fixed, I really like the suunto X10.
Let me start by saying that the functionality of the X10 watch is unsurpassed. The GPS function is still in its infancy but is nonetheless servicable. The remaining functions were outstanding. I put this watch through alot, wearing it at all times for the past 20 months. I was disappointed that the watch did not hold up. The rubber cover over the main function button, right and center of the face, was the first to go. This compromised the water resistance for the watch, though it continued to function despite moisture behind the crystal. The band was next to go. It failed both at the face and then at the buckle clasp. I liked the watch function and styling but it should have been more rugged for the price.
This watch is not all that appears to be. GPS sucks, battery life is short when operating with GPS, and you can do much with it but see what time it is. You could do that with a cheap Casio or any other watch. Don't buy this piece of crap.
Yes, the bezel will fall off, mine came partially detached in the mail and is now hanging by a thread. The GPS does not track well - I think the technology needs to improve, it's very common to loose the signal. Now the watch itself keeps crashing during activity mode (even with a fully charged battery). It now needs to get sent back only after 1 month of use. Lot's of money paid for a poorly engineered/constructed watch.
I liked the features on the watch. Everything seems to be working fine. The battery lasts a long time on a single charge and the gps function seems to be very accurate. Only problem that I have is that the "protective ring" around the face of the watch which apparently was purely cosmetic has come off the watch. Now I have a copper ring exposed around the face of the watch. Everything still functions properly, guess I would have thought that if you paid $500 for a watch it would stay together.
Spacechicken, I am the disappointed owner of a SUUNTO X9Mi watch. I am sending mine back to Suunto for the 2nd time in 2 years to have the cosmetic ring replaced. I too have the copper ring exposed. I am going to try to trade it for the Vector. Everyone I know that has one loves it... And they are of good quality too.
I have had my X10 now for a year and two months. I have sent the watch in for repairs as my bezel pealed off and the bezel kept clipping out. Suunto repaired it and after this my battery time was way down, so I sent it back again as they did something wrong in the repair process. Suunto then replaced my watch with a new one! The problem is two days later the new watch's bezel started un-clipping again! Well to say the least my new watch is now back for repairs again:-( This is a great watch but I would not recommend it as the bezel is a great problem (That Suunto does not want to acknowledge) and you cannot keep sending a watch to the repair centre for a new bezel every month for the rest of your live.
I had high (perhaps too high) expectations for the Suunto X10. It's design is sleek and menus not terribly difficult to navigate through after a few days of playing with it. *However* I was extremely dissatisfied with the amount of time required to capture a satellite signal. On runs in Atlanta, it took upwards of 15 minutes and then dropped the signal after running under an overpass. On a trip to the Peruvian Andes, the watch routinely took over 45 minutes to capture a signal and frequently failed to do so, and then kicking me into "manual" GPS mode. The altimeter seemed to work well, but I can't recommend the watch to anyway because of the difficulty with the GPS reception. Sadly, I will be returning the watch or waiting for the technology to improve.
I was able to pick these up for pretty good deal so i thought "what the heck". My biggest complaint is that after hardly any use, the bezel started to fall off of the watch. I contacted Suunto and they replaced it quickly and paid for shipping. But the second one did the same thing. Seems like they are having some issues.
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