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I took these out for the first time on a backpacking trip, and even water burned inside these pans. They conduct heat well,undertandably, but the problem is that you have a really hard time getting your stove on a heat low enough that your stove will stay on and not flicker out. I have a permanent burn ring on the inside of almost every pot. The handles on the lids/frying pans also stink. You have to hold them just right so that the pan doesn't fold up on itself and drop all of your food on the ground.