Contributions by the fourth (4)

well, they usually return anything. sweet costumer service. i wanted to get these shoes. i normally where a size 12. you should try an eleven if you where a 12 and see how they stretch. then maybe i can get my 11.5s.

a grigri automatically locks you out. you need to physically pull back the little swingarm to allow the climber slack. this device allows you to do that with arm placement. no moving parts in it, just the rope through it.