um...this is for Angus Bohanon...you did come across very rude, but maybe I should have been more specific. My boyfriend is a skilled climber/repeller and I was trying to surprise him for his birthday and buy him all the gear so he can go with his buddies on a rock climbing trip at Crowder Mountain. I on the other hand don't really have a clue & was trying to figure out what to buy him!

I am truly sorry. Your question makes much more sense from a gift point of view, and I apologize for my previous answer. These are awesome draws that any climber would love to be given as a gift. Like I said in my previous answer, if you are actually trying to stock his entire trip, then you will need 10-15 (which is expensive), but speaking from a climber's point of view, every piece of gear that you are given is welcome. In that case, one would be appreciated hugely. Sorry I was rude.

Nice response Angus it proves you are strong to admit your wrong.
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