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I have some Line Prophet 100's with an alpine setup and really...
By William G Kunz
Ranked #890 - Alpine Touring Bindings
January 29, 2010
I have some Line Prophet 100's with an alpine setup and really like them, however they are obviously not great for the backcountry. I was thinking of just switching out my Marker jesters for these, but based on the reviews, it sounds like that will make me hate my Lines.
Instead maybe I should get new skis too and these bindings? I was thinking some stiff BD's, but am open to suggestions. What ski would some experts reccomend with these bindings for a good AT setup?
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By Ted
Ranked #852 - Alpine Touring Bindings
January 31, 2010
I have Line Prophet 100s (186s) with these bindings and I have not had any problems whatsoever. I demoed them twice with alpine bindings (I think they were Lines) and then purchased them with Fritschi bindings. The only difference I noticed with the AT bindings was that they seemed to hold their edge a little better on hard snow. They work great for the backcountry as well.
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By regand1426950
Ranked #549 - Alpine Touring Bindings
January 30, 2010
Hey, I've experimented more with these bindings on my Prophets and I think I've narrowed down the problem to the flex (probably the torsional stiffness). When I free the heels on these bindings and ski "alpine style" but with the heel clips released, all of the life returns to the skis. Line has put a lot of thought into getting just the right amount of flex in the prophets and I'm pretty sure the Fritschi's are stiffening them up substantially. I've examined the heel mechanism, and the pin that the heel lever clamps down on appears to be designed to float some what (it's held in place by a spring). I believe this is the "Power Transmission Control technology" that is supposed to retain the natural flex of the ski, it just seems that it's too tight or perhaps it needs to float vertically as well as horizontally. I'm going to take the skis back to my shop to see if this spring can be loosened somehow to bring my skis back to life. I'll report back with what I find out. I am sure Jimmer is right about the climbing, these bindings seem great for that, I am just really surprised at how drastically they changed the downhill performance of my Prophets. If you can live with a substantial sacrifice in the ease of turn initiation of your Prophets, then go ahead and put these on. For me though, this is one of the main reasons I love the Prophets so much. EDIT: So it turns out it was the ramp angle. After digging around the Teton Gravity Research forums I found a thread with a bunch of people complaining about the same thing. It turns out the ramp angle on the Fritshci's is 0 deg while a normal alpine binding is 4-6 deg. For me, the shifted my weight distribution toward the tail of my skis without me realizing it (causing a drastic reduction in ease of turn initiation). To test this, I folded up some socks and stuffed them under my insoles and the skis came back to life. I am having the cosmetic toe piece removed to gain some ramp but I doubt this will be enough, I will probably have to have some sort of lifter added under the heal as well.
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By Jimmer
Ranked #631 - Alpine Touring Bindings
January 30, 2010
I don't know anything about "kite skiing" but I kind of wonder about regand124whatever's appreciation of these bindings. When you want to walk up a hill, these work really well. I ski the BD Kilowatts with these and find them perfect combo for those searching for a quiver of one. We live in the Pacific NW, and it's a pretty good setup for the variety of conditions we see here.
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