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Regular R4 or Lightweight R4 - which would be a better option...
By bra100288086
Ranked #2321 - Men's Fleece Jackets
January 9, 2010
Regular R4 or Lightweight R4 - which would be a better option to wear under a technical shell (Arcteryx Stingray Jacket)? I get pretty cold on long winter ski days, but don't know if the regular R4 jacket is too bulky to wear as an underlayer. Also, not sure I dig the looks of the regular R4 - kinda ape-like, isn't it? Anyway, the esthetics are secondary to function. So, which would make a better layer under a tech. shell? Also, any help with sizing would be appreciated - I'm 5'7" and 180 lbs. I have a 42" chest and 32" waist. I generally prefer jackets with a little more room, so I'm considering the large, but don't know if the arms will be too long and also think this may add extra bulk for a mid-layer, so maybe the Medium is right? Thanks in advance for your help.
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By jer2530252
Ranked #1614 - Men's Fleece Jackets
February 24, 2010
Definitely lightweight. I have both, and I only wear the regulator R4 when I'm not doing physical activity. Especially under a shell, the R4 will be way to hot. The lightweight R4 has R1 panels in the armpit so that if you open your shell's pitzips you can ventilate. This will keep you from overheating, but will definitely keep you warm as well. Get both but use the lightweight under a shell.
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By nwbackpacker
Ranked #840 - Men's Fleece Jackets
February 15, 2010
I wouldn't wear *either* under a waterproof/windproof shell. Both R4s are windproof which means they restrict breathability - that's just the nature of the beast. You're going to get very clammy if you layer up with multiple windproof layers. For a mid-layer go with something super breathable and not at all wind proof. If you like Patagucci, check out the R2 for a form fitting *amazing* mid-layer fleece, or if you're looking for something warmer consider an R1 pullover with R3 jacket, and then the hard shell on the outside.
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Tech Specs:
- Material:
- R4 (Polartec WindBloc laminate sandwiched between R2 Polartec Thermal Pro polyester velour face and grid interior)
- Fleece Weight:
- 300
- Windproof:
- Wind-resistant
- Pockets:
- 2 Hand, 1 Chest
- Weight:
- 22oz (684g)
- Recommended Use:
- Skiing
- Manufacturer Warranty:
- Lifetime
- Country of Origin:
- Colombia
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