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I am planning on joining NOLS in Patagonia for some mountaineering....
By jtcash
Ranked #162 - Men's Technical Shells
October 6, 2009
I am planning on joining NOLS in Patagonia for some mountaineering. I was looking at the list of gear they expect you to bring. I found an interesting factoid about Gore-Tex in general (not specific to this jacket). Here it is:
"Note on Gore-Tex: Although a pair of Gore-Tex pants or bibs will fill the need for a waterproof and breathable layer, past students have found that in very wet environments, Gore-Tex does not perform and becomes soggy and heavy. Gore-Tex is acceptable, but students continually advise against it. A pair of Wind pants is usually more breathable than Gore-Tex shells, and a coated raincoat more waterproof. The combined weight of the two layers is often less than a single Gore-Tex layer. This applies for upper body shell layers as well."
Here is where I got this from: http://www.nols.edu/courses/pdf/patagonia/amt_el.pdf
Any comments on this? Anyone encounter this problem? I wonder if they specifically target Gore-Tex or membranes in general.
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By Aaron Hurtubise
Ranked #1343 - Men's Technical Shells
January 13, 2010
Gore-Tex is a tricky thing, unless the outside of the garment is treated to repel water, with a waterproofing agent the face fabric will "wet out" and moisture from the inside of the garment will have no where to go. Furthermore, your body heat and the difference in humidity inside the garment verses the outside humidity effects how well it breathes. example, tropical environment your sweat has nowhere to go, it can't evaporate if the outside humidity is %100, I'm from the school of thought that it's not how waterproof something is but how fast it dries. there is a time and place for everything even Gore-Tex.
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By Evan Sanders
Ranked #1758 - Men's Technical Shells
October 6, 2009
I've been on the semester in Patagonia NOLS course. The website is right. Everyone who brought Gore-Tex instead of a lightweight, breathable alternative, had waterproofing problems. Also, I heard people complaining about the weight of their coats and pants.
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Tech Specs:
- Material:
- Gore-Tex Pro
- Waterproof Rating:
- Guaranteed
- Breathable Rating:
- Guaranteed
- Core Venting:
- Underarm zips
- Pockets:
- 2 Hand, 1 internal
- Seam Taped:
- Yes
- Powder Skirt:
- No
- Hood:
- Yes
- Zip-in Compatibility:
- No
- Weight:
- 17.4oz (492g)
- Recommended Use:
- Mountaineering, alpine climbing, backcountry skiing
- Manufacturer Warranty:
- Lifetime
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