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I am planning on joining NOLS in Patagonia for some mountaineering....
By jtcash
Ranked #20 - Men's Technical Shells
October 6, 2009
I am planning on joining NOLS in Patagonia for some mountaineering. I was looking at the list of gear they expect you to bring. I found an interesting factoid about Gore-Tex in general (not specific to this jacket). Here it is:
"Note on Gore-Tex: Although a pair of Gore-Tex pants or bibs will fill the need for a waterproof and breathable layer, past students have found that in very wet environments, Gore-Tex does not perform and becomes soggy and heavy. Gore-Tex is acceptable, but students continually advise against it. A pair of Wind pants is usually more breathable than Gore-Tex shells, and a coated raincoat more waterproof. The combined weight of the two layers is often less than a single Gore-Tex layer. This applies for upper body shell layers as well."
Here is where I got this from: http://www.nols.edu/courses/pdf/patagonia/amt_el.pdf
Any comments on this? Anyone encounter this problem? I wonder if they specifically target Gore-Tex or membranes in general.
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By Evan Sanders
Ranked #1359 - Men's Technical Shells
October 6, 2009
I've been on the semester in Patagonia NOLS course. The website is right. Everyone who brought Gore-Tex instead of a lightweight, breathable alternative, had waterproofing problems. Also, I heard people complaining about the weight of their coats and pants.
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Tech Specs:
- Material:
- Gore-Tex Pro
- Waterproof Rating:
- Guaranteed
- Breathable Rating:
- Guaranteed
- Core Venting:
- Underarm zips
- Pockets:
- 2 Hand, 1 internal
- Seam Taped:
- Yes
- Powder Skirt:
- No
- Hood:
- Yes
- Zip-in Compatibility:
- No
- Weight:
- 17.4oz (492g)
- Recommended Use:
- Mountaineering, alpine climbing, backcountry skiing
- Manufacturer Warranty:
- Lifetime
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