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Big Agnes Pitchpine SL Sleeping Bag: 40 Degree Down

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I actually got the Big Agnes Gilpin 10 deg down bag, but my question...

By Ranked #688 - Sleeping Bags June 24, 2009

I actually got the Big Agnes Gilpin 10 deg down bag, but my question has to do with the pad/under insulation on this bag.. from the writeup, it makes it sound like there is no insulation on the bottom of the bag. is that the case, or are they refering to some sort of built in pad that bags sometimes have? I am really wondering if I will have trouble using a typical rectangular mat (with the bag on top, not in the sleeve) with the Gilpin.
Any ideas? Does someone own a bag that has both these features?

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By Ranked #31 - Sleeping Bags June 24, 2009

All BA bags have no insulation on the bottom of the bag. This is for two main reasons: one, once insulation is compressed, i.e. lying on top, it does not insulate, so BA cut out the middle man. Second, the back of every BA bag has a full length sleeping pad sleeve that will accommodate the corresponding pad size. BA's pads are 2.5 in. thick and are incredibly comfortable. Sliding the pad in allows for the user to never slide off the pad and compromise the bag temp. rating. Also, the reduction of insulation and minimal fabric usage allows for a slightly lighter bag. I have the Pomer Hoit with an Insulated Air Core pad and the system works perfectly. You can also deflate the pad and pack the two together in one stuff sack. Any pad will fit because of the similar dimensions, they just might not be as snug! I highly recommend the BA sleeping systems. Just read the note at the end of the product description and BC should fix it. Not using a pad with ANY sleeping bag is just wrong. A bags temp. rating is dependent on a sleeping pad of some sort. A 20 deg. bag with no pad becomes just a piece of fabric as will any other sleeping bag of any temp. rating.

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Tech Specs:

Material:
[Shell] Toray (ultralight ripstop nylon) with DWR; [Lining] nylon taffeta 
Insulation:
800-Fill goose down 
Shape:
Mummy 
Draft Collar:
No 
Max User Height:
[Reg] 5ft 10in (178cm); [Lng] 6ft 6in (198cm) 
Shoulder / Hip / Foot Circumference:
[Reg] 67.5 / 64 / 43in (171.5 / 162.6 / 109cm); [Lng] 72.5 / 69 / 44in (184.2 x 175.3 x 111.8cm) 
Stuff Size:
[Reg] 6 x 4in (15.3 x 10.2cm); [Lng] 6 x 5in (15.3 x 12.7cm) 
Stuff or Storage Sack:
Both 
Degree:
40F (4.4C) 
Weight:
[Reg] 17oz (482g); [Lng] 19oz (539g) 
Recommended Use:
Moderate temperatures, superlight bag for backpacking Manufacturing Warranty: Lifetime 
Country of Origin:
China 
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