Just a question for those that have these gloves. How often would you need to dry out your gloves? and if so under what kinds of conditions?

Im unsure whether to go the Hestra Heli just for the fact it has a removable liner, but it doesnt have gore-tex. The XCR has gore-tex but no removable liner!

It just seems IF the gloves get wet, having a removable liner would make drying out the gloves infinitely easier. Having only snowboarded on 3 trips, ill probably be falling a little more than usual.

The above answers demonstrate YMMV, but first ensure to fully waterproof the leather with Hestra's included leather balm. You need to treat the leather frequently. If you do, the glove should really never soak through from the outside. That said, in wet West Coast powder I find my gloves will become damp, mainly from sweat (due to humid and warm snow conditions). My typical day however, even on the resort, involves a lot of hiking and general touring, and I find I have to dry the gloves overnight (hang them fingers up). For these reasons I wouldn't recommend any glove without a removable liner for backcountry use, these included. If you're going on a heated hut trip you could use these, but if winter backpacking I would get a Hestra with a removable liner, as well as separate touring gloves.

If you do end up getting a lot of snow inside the glove, they can stay wet for a little while. I've been on multiple 5 day hut trips with these though, and my gloves were more or less warm and dry every morning. Not sure what n988s is doing with his gloves to get them that wet, but a few hours a few feet from a fireplace has always done the job for me.

Vern Jr. is dead wrong. These gloves get soaked through if you touch the snow. Take a long time to dry. I would leave them on a low heat bootdryer for 12-18 hours.

Eddie, even if your hands do end up sweating and make the inside of the Hestra XCRs a little damp (it's happened to me on the warmer days), they will dry out quite quickly. I just hang mine up near (but not too close to) a heating vent/fireplace/etc and they're 100% dry by morning. Just like Vern said, these are awesome gloves and I recommend them highly.

your hands wont get wet with these and the XCR. I have a pair and they are wonderful! I wouldn't be to worried about it just when you get home hang them up some place with some air movement not right on the heater tho.