I love the material, I love the price but I just don't like the fit of these. They have a straight leg and a slight taper towards the bottom which is fine but there is just way too much excess material in the crotch/seat of the pants. I've had pants like these before which seem like the designer of the garmet didn't take into account the extra material a gusseted crotch adds to the overall diameter of the pants. The result is a rather un-aspiring, and a weird unflattering look to them. They remind me of Dickies– how they are not supposed to be baggy per-say but they have a oversized and wide stiff look to them. To be honest they look like army pants or park ranger pants...

I am NOT a skinny jean type I just have skinnier legs and prefer a true straight leg/athletic type fit. These Arborwears don't have that. With a climbing harness there is just too much material bunched up.

I've owned this thing for a year and I'm not too thrilled about it. I think there could be some improvements with it- It's not as light as it could be, it needs to be more efficient, and the light needs to be a warmer color.

"Weighs a mere 3 ounces"– yeah until you put batteries into it. 4 triple A's and suddenly it's pretty heavy for what it is. If you're going ultra-light you'll want to leave it at home as your headlamp + extra batteries is enough.

I think it needs to be more efficient with batteries. I can get a few nights out of it if I'm using it in it's brightest mode. After that it defaults to to a dimmer setting. On a longer backpack trip it eventually just becomes dead weight. Headlamps seem to use less batteries, more led's, and give out more light for a longer period of time. Why does this thing use one LED (albeit a strong one), 4 batteries and have such a pathetic run time?

I find that it's too much weight and doesn't have enough longevity for backpacking. Too small, not enough light, & eats too much batteries for car camping. There is an optional rechargeable kit for a whopping $30. The kit should come standard with this lantern. It seems like I'm buying a pack of triple A's every trip I go on. Not good on the wallet or the environment.

Lastly I hate the sterile blue light this gives off. I wish the light was a warmer yellow color. It feels like you're in the office, not in the outdoors. Headlamps seem to get away with it... but for lounging around camp, or inside of a tent chilling I'd definitely prefer a warmer color out of the bulb.

I wish more people would write down what size they have in their reviews.

On a recent 10 day trip to CO I packed a 42 liter pack inside my Large base camp duffel, and all my backpacking essentials– sleeping bag, filter, hiking shoes, nalgene, stove, camelbak, etc; 5 days of clothes including two warm layers, climbing shoes, harness, some draws and belay devices; and even threw in a couple of books in the internal mesh pocket.

Everything fit fine, airport weighed it in at 40.5 lbs. The straps work wonderful going down flights of stairs to the car. And going from curbside to check-in. Handy little tip: when you are about to check it in cinch the backpack straps all the way down and use the velcro tabs (under the TNF logos) on the straps to hold the excess strap material. You don't need to remove them!

Look forward to using this bag for a very long time.

Like the other viewer said, yes this is the bmw of packs but at honda pricing! I've used this primarily as a day cragging, bush wacking, tree scraping daily pack and it still looks brand new (after I wipe all the chalk/dirt off of it). I've also used it up to 30 mile 4 day/3 night UL trips with no complaints- but be careful your overpacking 60l buddies will loathe you! I've put this thing to the test for the past 10 months and I can safely review this thing.

It fits like a dream on my medium torso and you don't always have to mess with the settings. The air-comfort mesh panel is genius and with a light enough polyester shirt and a perfectly aimed breeze you can actually feel cool refreshing air on your back. All of the pockets and features are great on a pack this size because it helps you organize and situate the load properly.

Like the title says I don't know how deuter can offer such an awesome pack at a great price, but I think part of it is because they are really popular in across seas and are probably trying to make a mark on the US market. I'm sold and can't wait to buy a bigger deuter for extended trips, which are even more of an awesome value!