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Marker Jester 16 Ski Binding

Marker Jester 16 Ski Binding

Rating for this product: 5 January 17, 2010

I setup my Atomic Bent Chetlers (pro model only- 183cm length, 123mm waist) with a pair of Marker Jesters. I'm a strong, aggressive skier who charges hard. IMO, these are arguably the best bindings for Big Mountain Freeride. The compact design makes the bindings relatively light, and allows the ski to flex to its full potential. This translates into better turning and overall control. Steeping into the binding is very reassuring, with an exceptional feeling of toe and heel hold. This really inspires confidence when you start hucking some larger obstacles.

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Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

January 2, 2010

Yes- the B110 brake is wide enough for the Mantras. The B130 would look like a pair of outriggers =).

I really do think the 184CM is the right choice for you. I hope you truly enjoy them. Best wishes for the new boards, and happy charging!

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Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

Rating for this product: 5 December 30, 2009

Further testimonial to my written review "The Best Quiver Of One Ski." Here is a very brief video to demonstrate the Mantra's ability to carve GS turns. See URL link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ryb1CGiGw

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Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

December 25, 2009

I'd say go with the Mantra. It's far more versatile than the Gotama, IMO. Very stable at high speeds and on edge. You may even want to look at the 184. The 191 may be a bit cumbersome in the trees. Go with the Marker Jester bindings for sure.

If you want to add a second fat alpine ski to compliment the Mantra, I highly recommend making a solid two-size jump up in waist dimensions. Look for something in the 116-125MM range. I ski a 177 Mantra w/Marker Comp1400's for All Mountain, and a 183CM (123MM Waist) Atomic Bent Chetler w/Marker Jesters for Big Mountain.

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Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

December 23, 2009

I'm a Marker fan, so I'm going to speak towards that brand...

I would recommend the Marker Jester for you. I know a 16 DIN probably sounds outrageous, but there is sound logic behind it. For an aggressive, 205# skier, your DIN setting will be somewhere in the 9-12 range (depending on your preference). A relative middle setting is where the binding performs the best and most consistently. It also prevents the spring from suffering from undue compression, which can lead to binding pre-release. That's the logic behind the high DIN rating.

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Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

December 21, 2009

I suggest the 177CM for you. I'm 35, and the 177CM is what I ski. It is extremely adept in all conditions, agile, nimble, and FUN! The 185CM is more work and likely more than you need- unless you ski steep, long, virgin fall lines.

To read more of more of my comments, see my review below "Mantra is the True one-ski quiver"

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Atomic Bent Chetler Ski

December 7, 2009

Disregard the Center Mount and Classic Mount lines for a moment...

The factory line (aka standard line) is -2.5cm back from true center. Measure the ski tip to tail, and divide by 2 to find true cord center. Then move -2.5cm toward the tail. This is the "factory Line."

So, I've mounted my BC's -2.5cm from factory, or -5cm from true center (same location). Unless you land switch a lot, you will probably want to mount in about the same location as I did for a powder ski.

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Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

November 29, 2009

Hi ski neighbor- I'm in North Idaho. I ski ID, WA, MT, WY, BC, so I know your home conditions well. The Mantra is my go-to ski...

I'd recommend the 170 Mantra for you. The Aura and Mantra are extremely similar. However, The 170 Mantra gives you +2mm in the waist, and +3mm in the tip over the 170 Aura, and has a -2m shorter turning radius (18.2m) to boot! Being that you're an aggressive skier and and ex-comp gal, it should be a great fit for you.

The Mantra skis stiff and fast (Volkl's race pedigree), is very stable at high speeds, and holds an incredible edge- characteristics you are probably well accustomed to and like. However, it's still responsive, nimble, and playful. The Sensorwood core and Titanium reinforcement help the Mantra to blow through heavy crud and tracked up areas (this is key for heavy Kootenay snow IMO). The extra width in the tip and waist over the Aura will give you added float in the deep.

For more, you can read my review below: "The Best Quiver Of One Ski." Hope this helps.

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Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

November 26, 2009

I would lean towards the 177 for you (though you could do either). Here are my thoughts behind the 177 choice:

Since you're an aggressive skier, you should able to ski the ski instead of things being the other way around. The Mantra skis stiff, so just be sure to stay in the driver's seat and charge. The 177 will be give you a bit more stability on the steep lines, and a little more float in the deep. Lastly, if you're a young gun and still growing, the 177 will serve you better in the future.

For more, you can read my review below: "The Best Quiver Of One Ski"

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The Best Quiver Of One Ski

Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

Volkl Mantra Alpine Ski

Rating for this product: 5 November 22, 2009

I ski a pair of '06 Mantras, and it's the best All Mountain ski I have ever skied; I absolutely love it. It does everything you ask it to, from floating through the pow, to blasting through heavy crud, to carving super tight GS turns on the groomers. And when I say carve, I truly mean it. I'm continually amazed at how a 96mm waisted ski can be so effortlessly tipped and hold an edge like you're on rails. The Mantras ski stiff, are extremely stable at high speeds, and reward charging. When conditions start to get a bit tracked up, I have complete confidence that I can ride the edges through any tracks or heavy crud in front of me. This is where the Sensorwood core and titanium stiffening truly shine. However, they are not so stiff as to not be nimble and responsive. I have no problem threading the glades, bumps, or whatever else.
This truly is my quiver of one ski. I have- and continue to, ski it everywhere on the mountain, in all conditions.

Personally, I'm a pretty big guy- athletic build, 6'0", 225# (think fullback). I ski a 177, set up with Marker Comp1400's. I tend to charge hard and ski aggressively. I do have a second pair of 183, 123mm waisted skis specifically for Big Mountain Freeride. That being said, I have absolutely no problems skiing my Mantras in the steep and deep lines. I've been skiing Volkls for years, and have come to love the brand. I've never had any quality defects or issues with them. I was disappointed to see the 1 star review, and to read about the quality and warranty issues. I don't think this is at all reflective of the Volkl brand overall, and would not hesitate to buy another Volkl ski- especially with Backcountry's fantastic return policy and customer service.

Bottom line- go get a pair and let 'em rip.

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Atomic Bent Chetler Ski

November 21, 2009

Based on the quick measurements I took on my BC's, the factory line is approximately -2.5cm back from true center...

As you likely know, where to mount depends on how you ski, and how you want the ski to perform for you. If you do a lot of switch landings, jibbing, etc, you may want to mount at true center or the factory line (which is pretty far forward IMO).

Personally, I set my BC's up with Marker Jesters, mounted -2.5cm back from factory. This is supposed to be the best mounting point for Big Mountain. I'm told it helps the ski float even better, makes it ski a little stiffer, and is a bit more stable at higher speeds. These are all characteristics I specifically wanted, and suit my style of skiing. For what it's worth, Chris Benchetler recommends a -2 mount for All Mountain.

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Atomic Bent Chetler Ski

November 4, 2009

Depending on what you are looking for- yes, you may want to look at a ski with a narrower waist. I have to preface my comments by saying I have a pair of BC's but have not skied them yet. However, my buddy- whom I solidly trust, had this to say:

The early rise in the shovel and tail of the Bent Chetler (what Atomic calls Pop Rocker) makes it ski like a shorter ski on hardpack. The flotation and stability benefits of the 183 length come back into play in the steep and deep stuff. The BC's are fairly stiff underfoot, with traditional camber, which gives them fantastic edge hold and liveliness. They reward hard charging, and are surprisingly easy to tip on edge for a 123mm wasited ski. With the exception of the JJ, the BC's have about the shortest turning radius of any ski at this waist size. This is further enhanced by the fact that Atomic poured all their race knowledge into the construction of the ski. Add all that to the BC's very low swing weight, and you end up with an absolutely killer ski, that's incredibly nimble, responsive, and capable of just about anything.

So to get back to your question about the length, I think the BC would suit someone of your size and weight just fine. Personally, I'm a pretty big guy- 6'0", 225#, athletic build (think fullback). I tend to charge hard and ski aggressively. I like a stiffer ski, and have been skiing Volkls for years. I wanted a ski that was a solid two-size jump up in waist size from my Mantras. I was actually looking at comparable Volkls, and my tech buddy sold me on the Bent Chetlers. They are exactly what I was wanting, and I'm sure will not disappoint.

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The JJ On Steroids...

Atomic Bent Chetler Ski

Rating for this product: 5 October 24, 2009

...is how my very knowledgeable and trusty ski tech buddy describes the Bent Chetlers.

He has skied pretty much every comparable ski offered by Volkl, Armada, K2, Rossignol, Line, other Atomic models, etc (he specifically made comparisons to the JJ, Hellbent, and Chopstick). According to him, the BC's are hands down- by far, the best ski out of the bunch. To avoid redundancy, his comments echo all the strong positives that have already been posted.

After a long conversation and some research, I took the plunge on faith alone. I opted to set up my BC's with Jesters, mounted 2.5 back from factory recommendation. I'll post my experience once I have had the chance to ski them.

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