Henry

really solomon vii, you couldn't have come out with that review just one day earlier? I'm 5'11", 165lb and was gona get the 189cm but switched to the 179 at the last second. Ah well, i'll give them a shot before i bitch anymore. where did you mount anyways?

You are totally right willie, i'm going for the obsethed. plus i got a pair of atomic R11 (160cm) from when i used to race GS and a pair of solamon xscream9 (179cm). so i can use those on days where there aint much snow. totaly last thing is if you can suggest a mounting point? also wondering if they ski short or long so 179cm or 189cm? i'm gona go get them tomorrow, pretty f-ing psyched i gotta say. thanx for all your help willie and i can finally say i'm done with the questions

ok, now i'm on mu last one willie-absolutely promise
is the obsethed a heavy ski? wondering if i can take them into the park? and i think you have already answered this but will it rail groomers? does it or the VCT handle hardpack/groomers and crud better? and i'm not looking at the blend but will obsethed carve better then them? oh and will they (the obsetheds) carve better then a pair or 160cm K2 PE's (my old ski)?

Will these pants work for skiing? I want to make sure they aren't too baggy

willie last questions i sware
-if i say that enough eventually it will be true
do you know the turn radius and weight for the obsetheds? also which do you like more as an all mountain ski (quiver of one) the obsethed or VCT?-one last comparison

hey again willie
so i actually ended up talking to a guy up at whistler about the k2 obsethed (not up there anymore). he was talking something about how they have like no camber and some early rise like you said which helps them with groomers and carving?-think thats what he said. so could you explain to me why the obsethed is able to performe on groomer/carving-didn't quite understand what he was talking about. and how does the flex compare to the VCT and propthet? and u said they were an all mountain ski? also demoed an armada ski-which i think was similar to the ANT-in a 188cm length (they were torn up so i couldnt really tell which ski they were). they felt a little sluggish. i was still able to take them in the mogules and the little bit of chopped up pow (by the way thats pretty much all they got up at blackcombe-its all chopped up and moguley) but they were sluggish and i want to make sure the the VCT and obsethed will be better.
-alot of ?

hey willie
so i'm up at whistler and i demoed the prophets-prophet 90s actually and they were in the 172cm and were a couple years old. for some reason no one has line skis to demo/rent, and i couldn't find 4frnt anywhere to demo either. so after skiing the prophets i've decided that they are a little too stiff-mabye it's different in the 100s or are they the same stiffness? also i just sunk in like 1 1/2-2 ft of pow, but i assume thats different in the 100. and if i go for the prophets i'm all of a sudden a little hesitent about the 186cm, it seems like maby too intense of a ski and i'll be sacrificing some of thae playfulness that it has in the 179cm-if that makes any sense at all? what do you think? so vct-since i couldn't demo them. could you for the last time give me a comparison beween the prophet 100 and the vct. flex, weight, turns radiud etc. also how they coompare in pow, crud, on groomers, mogles. thanx willie i kno its hell of alot but this is my last question i promi!

hello
looking between these and the 4FRNT VCT for an all mountain/freeride ski. i'm 15 so i only got the moola for one ski. definately an advanced skier. love to charge hard everywhere and rip on groomers and hardpack (groomers are totally pointless unless ur gona rip em hard in my opinion). but being young i love to play in the trees and park. also want a ski that i can feel comfurtable stompin backflips. looking to go 182cm in vct or 183cm in gotama. figure it will it will help me out with park/backcountry jib. any suggestions between the two?
-i gotta say the goats look pretty legit too
GRACIAS

could this pack handle skis with a 104mm waist?

hey willie i know i said that that was my last qestion but i have a few last clarifying question. the VCT 182cm will rip on groomer, crud etc. right? and they are a good all mountain ski right? i know i'm just second guessing myself but i'm done after this no matter what, which would you mark as the better all mountain free ride ski, the prophet or the VCT? In your opinion. And I know you said 182cm but just to make sure, 182cm for the VCT right?

-thanx again my last one i promise. yeah i've been checkin up on where i ski at crystal mountain and there seems to be about 25 inches at the summit. not alot but hey its better then nothing. looks like it might be a slow winter up here :(

-willie

thank you so much for all your help i would be so lost with out it. thanks again

-henry

-willie
last questions. first by damp you mean what? and will the 182cm VCT do as well on groomers/crud and at high speeds as the 189? but i take it both sizes will perform better on groomers/crud then a pair of 160 public enemies right (they chattered like crazy)? on my old public enemies and im not saying i did this alot but if i was feeling extra brave and found a landing with good amount of pow (cuz about 50% of the time i ate shit) i would ofton be tempted to throw down a back flip or something. wondering how much the extra weight (especially the VCT and its stiffer flex) is gona affect my ability do stuff like that and spins like a 360 or 540. which reminds me if im not mistaken the VCT isnt a full twintip, how much will that along with its more plank like shape affect riding landing witch? also was thinking of the marker jester for the helix, think it would be a good binding for the VCT? also what do you know about 4frnt bindings?

Hi again willie. it seems like evry time you answer a question of mine it gives me another. so i was wondering if you could quickly tell me which ski (helix of VCT) performes better on groomers, crud, and ice? which is better in pow and between trees and which is more of a free ride ski? also wondering which one is lighter and wondering which is the softest?

-for willie

I believe I have finally narrowed it down. The prophet 100 and scott p4 are both out. I've been checkin VCT and i'm liking what i see. both it and the liberty helix seem more like freestyle skis. I think I've got the helix down. It's light, poppie, great in pow and you can bring it in the trees. But it also handles well on groomers, crude etc. and high speeds. So I'm wondering again how the VCT stands next to helix. it seems like a slightly lighter ski and how it is as an all mountain ski and weather it can be a quiver of one like the helix? Also curious how boht handle park and clifs? O and i was looking at the salomon gun and do you think u could compare it to the skis above. looks like its a greate off piste pow ski. wondering how it does on groomers, crud etc. and in park. i knoe this is alot of questions so whatever you get to i really apprecitae.

-sorry if im getting on your nerves w/all these ?

hey willie its me again i was all set on the liberty helix when i spotted these. how do the two compare?

-thanx alot

also if anyone has actually hike with this pack carrying skis id love to know how it went

how does the diagonal ski cary work? also would it fit a ski that is 135mm/105mm/122mm? im looking aat this and the stash rider pack. anyone know how that carrys skis? i know its advertised for snowborads.

how will this pack work carrying skis? i know theres just a plain old stash pack with a diagonal ski carry but im liking this stash rider alot. i read the review of the guy sayign that the horizontal straps are easy to use