I tried these for a dedicated two days skiing and snowboarding in Colorado in new powder and the day after.

I'd agree that they aren't for the coldest weather, but they aren't meant to be. Also, the liner, while convenient -- if, say, you have a really warm day -- can be a bit of a pinch to get on. I'm right handed, and I have to put my left hand in first, so I can manipulate my coordinated hand into the darn things. On balance, though, I'd say the feature of removable liners is worth the hassle.

The construction seems durable enough, though, I'm sure these would get gnarled up with the typical "tow rope" we've got back home. I wore out my other BMW waterproof leather motorcycle gloves by standing still and letting the rope run through my hands while the newer riders fell and gummed up the line. I'm not sure anyone makes a glove tough enough to stand up to that, though.

I gave them five stars because they're versatile, cheap, and durable. I got the plaid color, which looks a little funky for me (I'm in my 30s), but it works with my mostly black gear anyway.

I'll start with saying I've only had these out for one nice trip. For the price, they're a nice performer with a solid lacing system, and they're not overly large and clunky.

I will say, though, they feel a bit more flexy than an 8/10. I'm not a snowboard master, but I've worn a handful of different boots, and these aren't the stiffest of the bunch.

Otherwise, I like the feature of the metal tip on the laces so the ends don't fray and the sole. I also got a fantastic deal on them.

I packed this bag into Rockies backcountry in September of 2008. I just checked night temps at Grand Lake during that time, and it showed mid 20s into the 30s for lows during that week, so I bet it was in the teens at night on the trail with the increased elevation.

It was COLD at night, and I was geared up with wool socks, long johns, fleece, etc. The drawstring was a lifesaver, plus I like having a bag I can move around in a bit, which makes this one pretty sweet. Don't press it on the temps, though. If I had it to do over, I would have preferred to be a bit warmer.