September 15, 2010
Brandon Carlile of Arcteryx showcases arguably the most impressive shell ever made, the Alpha LT.
Goretex pro shell, brilliant hood, exceptional construction and only 13 ounces make it truly the only shell you will ever need. Ever.
Check out thedopeststuff.com for a more in-depth review about this and other gear.
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September 8, 2009
Looking out the fly window after some torrential rain in the Uintas. Was bone dry in the tent.
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5 days ago
I had to make a similar choice, and had only tried on the AR. It fit perfectly for a hiking/backpacking jacket. I was torn, but decided to go with the SV, because I wanted to use it skiing.
I've had a few shells tear while tree skiing, so I think going with the SV is a wise choice. Plus, I find that in sideways conditions the Storm Hood on the SV protects my face and cheeks far better than the AR.
That being said, the AR Drop Hood looks better when not in use.
Also, the SV is cut to accommodate layers, whereas the AR is more athletic. If I were to use it as a primarily warmer season shell, I would go with the AR.
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April 30, 2012
Looking for an all around, 4 season shell to last me for years. Cannot decide whether the SV or AR is right for me. Any reason NOT to get the SV and get the AR?
Thanks!
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March 14, 2012
Bill,
What is new about the Spring 2012 version besides the colors?
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March 5, 2012
I have a video review comparing both.
The Arc fits better, and vents better and is cut longer in the limbs.
The Redpoint Optimus has "a "halo" hood adjustment, has an interior water bottle pocket and packs into itself.
The Atom SV is warmer (has insulated pockets that are also fleece lined), and is lighter. I've owned both and currently have the Atom SV.
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March 5, 2012
I've used both the Atom LT and SV in rain, and I must say, they perform very well. I was in rain for about an hour before my shoulder started getting wet.
The SV is much warmer and weather resistant, but less packable and does not have an adjustable hood.
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January 12, 2012
Peter,
I am 6' 2" 190-200lbs, with VERY long arms (haven't weighed myself this winter) and just picked up the XL. I am surprised how show this thing is cut, but am very glad I got the XL.
It is slightly baggier in the torso, and the hem just barely covers my butt. Cut a lot like a MHW Technical Shell.
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January 8, 2012
I am taller but leaner than you, I wear a size 36 pant and wear the XL as an outer layer. Really great.
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January 3, 2012
Correct me if I am wrong, but I had read somewhere that Coreloft almost as good as Primaloft One. The material on the Atom SV is more durable and has fleece lined pockets.
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November 30, 2011
I should note that the 2011/2012 TNF Redpoint Optimus DOES NOT have insulated hand pockets. Real downer, IMO
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November 22, 2011
Which would work better for an all around soft-shell, the ROM, Super Hero or the Super Gravity?
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November 13, 2011
This will be perfect for trekking in Argentina.
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October 30, 2011
Is this sewn-through or baffled construction? Thanks.
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October 30, 2011
The Fitz Roy will be MUCH warmer, for it has much more down and has a baffled construction (no cold spots). The Hooded Down Sweater is a more appropriate comparison.
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October 15, 2010
Is this also baffled (not sewn through) like the SL version? Much thanks
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October 2, 2010
Honestly, save yourself the $$ and get a Arcteryx Atom LT to layer under the Alpha LT. It will be more flexible, versatile and warmer than the Sabre SV.
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October 1, 2010
Are any of the Stoic pads insulated? Thanks!
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October 1, 2010
No, it won't
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September 24, 2010
It has kept me dry in absolutely gnarly storms
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September 18, 2010
SV's fabric isn't very 'quiet', so it doesn't work that well in urban situations.
Honestly, if you are going to use this primarily for urban areas, get the Beta series. The cut and length would work a lot better for you....
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September 14, 2010
Check out mine below
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September 11, 2010
Out of the two, the LT definitely would suit you better. Although the SV is absurdly durably, it is rather stiff and crinkly, much more so than the Alpha LT.
But honestly, I think you should get an Alpha or Beta SL. Both will be lighter, and just as waterproof, but far less expensive. Both are perfect, high end, rain wear
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June 5, 2010
I think these dimensions are if they are fully expanded. Thankfully, this pack has tons of compression.
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June 3, 2010
Stretch Ascent is going to have more stretch, and a slightly different cut (more roomy) than the MHW. Also, the material is different (GTX Paclite vs H2NO). In my extensive experience with both materials, both are just as waterproof, yet I found that the Paclite breathes better (for me).
For me the Stretch Ascent will be more comfy (stretch), has an internal pocket (a must have) and is cut slightly longer.
Don't get me wrong, my dedicated rain/techinical shell remains my MHW Xenon (now Amalgam), but for something a bit less technical, the Stretch Ascent is the bomb-diggity.
Either way, I don't think you can go wrong. Just see which fits best in the arms, torso and hood.
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May 25, 2010
Jon, thanks much for the help. Honestly, you are one of the most helpful reps out there.
Another question: Could you post a pic of the proper way to buckle down the top? Also, is it supposed to be a magnetic closure?
Thanks,friend.
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May 24, 2010
Differences between this year and last year?
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May 21, 2010
How much does his thing weigh?
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May 17, 2010
Actually James, this jacket DOES have the Pacline membrane under 70D fabric. It is identical to the Xenon, just new lines.
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February 8, 2010
Its actually 100 wght.
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January 28, 2010
Honestly, you are going to want something warmer for DC, unless you used this under your wool coat. Then it should keep you warm. Stoic wool layers work wonders in the cold.
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January 24, 2010
Honestly,
I might have to give the edge to the Ama Dablam. The Marmot is a slimmer fit though, not as boxy as the Patagonia. Not to mention it has more fill = more warmth.
However, the Patagonia is going to be more versatile. Its the only thing I have been wearing in Park City this past week, and with a T shirt, it works well. Below 20 degrees, I would suggest a long sleeve or a midlayer (BC powerstretch top or R1) for below 10 degrees
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January 15, 2010
The Marmot is a bit more substantial, has velcro tabs for the wrists but the length is similar. Both seem pretty durable, but I can say that the Down Sweater's exterior is remarkably durable for a such a light piece.
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January 15, 2010
What is the sizing on this, someone who is 6'1" and 185lbs. Is it similar to the Down Sweater?
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November 5, 2009
I think they are made in Canada. Quality is top notch, better than BC.com brand.
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November 3, 2009
Gurus, how much does this weigh? I think it would be valuable to have in the tech specs.
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November 3, 2009
I would think it is much to warm for that. I would suggest the Patagonia R1 or R1 hoody, or the Backcountry.com Prime Power Stretch mid layer
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September 12, 2009
I found the nitrous to be oddly long, just as long as the Down sweater. The nitrous is just tigher around the waist
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September 8, 2009
MSR Hubba hubba is solid, and a bit wider, but I prefer the Skyledge 2.1, primarily because of the larger vestibules.
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August 9, 2009
Honestly, with a good long sleeve shirt underneath, you should be fine. This jacket is 100% windproof so that the insulation warms you up, as opposed to breaking the wind as well (losing heat retention). Its my go-to jacket for "COLD AS F***" ski days. I have a MHW Phantom too, but cut a bit short and not as durable as the Deception.
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June 20, 2009
What is the difference between the Mountain Hardwear Escape Jacket and the Mountain Hardwear Xenon? Both seem to have the same features.
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June 18, 2009
the Venture has a more waterpoof material ,that is for sure
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May 23, 2009
It has a longer cut I think
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May 10, 2009
What material are these made out of? Looks great BTW
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May 9, 2009
Perfect summer weight baselayer thats ridiculously smell resistant and comfortable.
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May 8, 2009
I also own the Welder and a Gamma MX and would have to say that the fit on this is somewhat off. IT depends on your body, but this jacket is far shorter in the torso than the others.
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May 7, 2009
The 08 version is longer and lighter
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May 6, 2009
Both the Down Sweater and the Compressor layer great, but neither will be as warm as the Phantom. I owned a Down Sweater, but got rid of it to get a Phantom instead. My R2 provides a lot of warmth under my shell, as does my Siphon Primaloft. If you want serious warmth, go with the Phantom
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May 6, 2009
XL might have to long of arms
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May 5, 2009
If one were to be going ultralight (base packweight of 15-16lbs), how many days do you think this could be good for? Is there anyway to increase the distance between the straps? Thanks for the answer Jon, you are an indispensable resource. Just one more question; when trying on the pack (empty) I felt it was a bit tight around my collar bone, almost digging in. Anyway to adjust that?
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May 5, 2009
If you are hiking, to could probably take it down to the 20s, seriously. Exertion warms this jacket up hardcore. Just chiling around, probably in the 30s.
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May 5, 2009
Pound for pound, the Thunder wins
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May 5, 2009
I have owned the TNF Redpoint Optimus (hooded Redpoint) and the Patagonia Down Sweater (800 fill down) and must say that without the hood, the patagonia is much warmer. Down is the most superior insulator, it just doesn't retain warmth when wet.
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May 5, 2009
Its comparable, a bit warmer but does not stow into itself like the patagonia or the Marmot Zues. Honestly, I dont know if it has a hem cinchcord either
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May 5, 2009
Its comparable, a bit warmer but does not stow into itself like the patagonia or the Marmot Zues. Honestly, I dont know if it has a hem cinchcord either
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April 27, 2009
Parveen, its not as insulating or lofty, but a bit warmer due to the windstopper. It is not as packable or light as the Redpoint though
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April 25, 2009
Is this a single or double-wall tent?
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April 10, 2009
The stoic is going to be far more waterproof
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April 5, 2009
I was looking for the exact same thing: an extremely breathable softshell for someone who sweats profusely. I have thoroughly tested and even owned several softshells: Marmot Superhero and Leadville, MHW Dragon, TNF Cipher, Patagonia Spraymaster, BC.com Rime and the BC.com Welder. Honestly, out of ALL of them, the Welder/Rime breathed the best due to the IMHO superior fabrics. Polartec Powershield breathes TONS better than Windstopper, which is what the MHW,TNF, and Marmot are comprised of. For touring or high exertion activites, there is nothing better. The Welder weighs about the same as the Stoic 2.0, but with light fleece pockets and has an internal music pocket. The Arcteryx Gamma MX hoody is a similar jacket that costs more.
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March 17, 2009
oh yeah R2's warmer...the R1 isnt much of a jacket but more of a layering piece, this is more of a fleese jacketIm in the same boat but want something warmer than the R2 which is what I currently use. I want to go to 3 layers instead of 4. I was just in NH skiing and found that it's tough to get away with less than 4 layers including the shell. I did try on a ARCteryx HERCULES which i think would be perfect. Warm long underwear, the Hercules, and the shell may help. Otherwise, currently im wearing thin long underwear, Cap 3, R2, shell which also works well.In skiing in anything from -10 to 20 F, I wear a baselayer (usually Wool 2 or 3), R1 (preferably Hoody) R2 and a shell and I stay perfectly comfy. The wool creates a microclimate around your body, and the R1 allows for prime heat exertion while the R2 breathes and retains heat like its nobody's business. The Shell is to keep the wind and elements out.
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March 7, 2009
Use the wool wash or polarwash instead of that
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March 6, 2009
Also, is this seriously 21 oz? How is the eVent so much lighter? Given that eVent is much lighter but this thing weighs almost as much as a Shift Welder.
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March 6, 2009
i say go up because 3 out of 4 seasons youll probably want to throw a sweatshirt or some kinda of layer underneath this, and if your spending 340 on a jacket then you better be able to wear it skiing!!!! (or just in winter) :-)...i dont think this is worth it to be a windbreaker
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March 6, 2009
About how stretch is this jacket? As much as the Primaloft Siphon?
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February 23, 2009
Yes, definitely - this has long been one of the most respected and popular lightweight rainjackets made. Very packable, lightweight, breathable, and all-around functional. It is ideal for 3 season hiking and you wouldn't want anything heavier for summer. I would also recommend looking at the marmot preCip and MH typhoon just to compare fit, etc. You never know, everyone has their own tastes. Patagonia is easily my favorite of the three companies, so I will probably be looking into getting the Rain Shadow or typhoon once my preCip peters out simply because I want more coverage from my hood - the preCip hood is my ONLY complaint. The rain shadow hood is a little better. Just a few things to consider. Enjoy it!I had a MHW Typhoon, but it was far too short in the torso. This jacket is PERFECT for summer, fall, winter and spring. Its my rain jacket, my hiking and skiing shell
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February 23, 2009
While I do not have the mm/24hours stat, I know that all Patagonia shells with an H2NO membrane are resistant to 47 PSI. Steady rain is ~6-7psi.
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February 19, 2009
Large is what you want
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January 21, 2009
How does this jacket compare to the Patagonia Down Sweater or Marmot Zeus. Will it be as compressible or warmer? Thanks
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January 20, 2009
When it was insanely cold I wore a long sleeve craft base layer and a long sleeve backcountry.com merino wool top. I was plenty warm with those layers.It was a ten degree day at Snowbird with tons of fresh, all I wore a BC.com merino crew and a Patagonia R1 pullover and I was fine the whole day.
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January 15, 2009
Powershield is a rather common material. The welder is a wonderful coat. It comes up on SAC for $140.The Welder is what you need my friend. It layers great over the Rime
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January 14, 2009
XL. I am 6'3 195 and got a large, thinking about returning it and going a size up. I ski mostly in Vermont, and it is cold as balls, so I need some room for a fleece layer. I am 6 ft and 190 and got the large as well, I think its perfect. Honestly, if you dont like the size, return it. But L fits a base layer or two and a mid layer just fine.
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January 13, 2009
where this shop in indonesia? how much?It is actually made in China.
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January 10, 2009
Although not as weather resistant as Powershield, the mechanical stretch material on the Siphon Primaloft is softer, more supple and insulated with Primaloft, with no fleece (unlike the Powershield Material, which is usually backed by fleece). The material is very soft. Think down jacket, but much thinner. It is, however, very very warm.
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January 9, 2009
It is made of a lightweight polartec powershield with fleece backing. I believe there is spandex in there as well. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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January 9, 2009
My friend, I have used this jacket extensively as my primary ski jacket for the past month, and let me tell you: I have never had a problem with snow getting in, ever. The hem cinchcord works wonders, and with gauntlets gloves never seem to let snow or wind in. Even with under the cuff gloves, it works great for keeping the cold out. Seriously, for a lightweight, superbreathable and weather resistant softshell, this thing blows the Seeker comp away.
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December 25, 2008
Honestly, the Leadville is going to be a bit too stuffy. Do yourself a favor and get the Backcountry.com Rime pullover Its PERFECT for Mountain biking
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December 18, 2008
The SHIFT, COMPOSITE and ELEMENT are three of four different Men's softshell jackets made bye Backcountry.com.All are comprise of Polartech materials, primarily Powershield (which is 98% windproof and very water resistant). To my limited knowledge, the regular SHIFT has the heaviest fleece backing of the three, making it appropriate for winter sports, colder and lower exertion activities than the other two. It includes the wrist pocket and a number of other pockets exclusive to it.The COMPOSITE is essentially a a SHIFT designed for higher exertion activities, such as nordic skiing or running. Its made of panels of Powershield and Powerstrech, which give it an ultimate range of motion. The Powerstrech material lacks the weather resistance of the Powershield, but offers more mobility. The ELEMENT is the "casual" cut jacket, being offered in a single color, something that many city dwellers prefer. Like the SHIFT, it is made entirely of Powershield, but has a lighter fleece backing, making it more suitable for warmer climates. Its truly a perfect Spring-Fall jacket, if you live north of Utah. The same could be said of the COMPOSITE, while the SHIFT is the ultimate Fall-Spring jacket, even sufficing as a 4 season jacket in norther areas like BC and Alaska.I have worn all three of them (I happened to spring for the Shift Welder due to it having a hood) and would say that all are definitely made with excellent construction.The BCC0164 is the 09 SHIFT, and the current ELEMENT is brand new. Also, I am not aware of the newer Composite, although I could be wrong. I hope this helps
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December 13, 2008
Arc'T makes good stuff and this is no exception. This would probably be fine for you so long as you're working and not standing around a ton.I skied a bunch of days in an Arc jacket very similar to this and it worked great. You'll be surprised how good it is when the weather turns foul, too.Honestly, for skiing, you should go with either the Fury SV or the MHW Kramer. Both are going to suit your needs better than this jacket. Although cut long, its just not long enough to be a ski jacket.
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December 13, 2008
It is indeed a fleece lining, very similar to the lining of the other Shift jackets or Patagonia Slopestyle.
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December 12, 2008
Just out of curiosity, how much does this jacket weigh?
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December 12, 2008
There is no water repellency rating. its just nylon with an AWESOME DWR.
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December 11, 2008
I would not do some SUPER heavy backpacking with it, but its super durable The material is 20 denier weight. A very light weight.
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December 10, 2008
Is this jacket the 08 or 09 model?
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December 3, 2008
Yes, it is indeed.
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December 2, 2008
It looks like this is going to be it
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November 22, 2008
Same item, just different colors for 09
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November 20, 2008
This is for Jon Webb:seeing that work for MHW, could you please have them explain why the Z welds fall apart? I am on my THIRD Dragon Jacket due to the seams melting. Oh, and what the hell is this fabric so damn irritable against the skin? I had a dozen people try it on just to make sure it wasnt just me....EDIT: I indeed, the jacket was just that particular one. Since returning it, I have been wearing the new one daily.
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November 13, 2008
Its pretty darn light, If I would have to say, maybe ~23 OZ.
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November 13, 2008
As much as its going to have a fairly decent length hem, I would not recommend this for skiing for a few reasons:1. It does hot have a powder skirt. Although having dual hem cords, it lacks the powder skirt and appropriate length for skiing2. The hood probably would not fit a helmet3. The lack of wrist closures. The cuffs stretch, but not as much as you would need while skiing.4. Lack of windflap. Wind can cut through here, I hope they revise this in the next version5. Lack of interior pockets. Although teh fleece hand warmer pockets are AMAZING, the lack of any inner pocket is a real downer if you want to put your ipod in.Its truly the perfect casual piece that can be used as a layer. I wear it as my outer layer while walking around town, but on the hill, I would want something with better wrist closures, windflap, dual zippers, pit zips, and an interior pocket
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November 13, 2008
Indeed, the Shift is going to be thicker than the Rime. The Shift has a heavier fleece backing, however both have the same face fabric. The Shift is also equipped with more pockets and a full zip. Hope this helps
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November 12, 2008
Actually, the Apex uses lower quality materials, lesser quality manufacturing, and honestly can't hold up like my Backcountry Softshell does.For some comparison, this is what Arcteryx throws into the mix:http://www.backcountry.com/store/ARC0377/Arcteryx-Gamma-
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November 12, 2008
The Shift is certainly thicker and warmer than the Rime. Its a bit heavier, but the Shift is still a very lightweight jacket for its capabilities. The Rime is a perfect fall piece, and the Shift should be a fairly good winter piece, although I would suggest something with Insulation, such as the Backcountry.com Primaloft Siphon Hoody, for a winterpiece, as its going to be warmer.
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November 10, 2008
The imps at the photo dept. have put up the negative instead
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November 7, 2008
It is waterproof, however not as much as Gore Tex, or Event. However this c_Change stuf is awesome. Truly breathable!
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November 7, 2008
It has Primaloft Sport. I just got this jacket as a replacement for my TNF redpoint optimus. Its even better!
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September 19, 2008
What is the Torch softshell? Is it like Scuba/N2S?
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September 10, 2008
no, but fairly water resistant
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September 10, 2008
Is there an inside pocket?
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August 3, 2008
what is the difference between the Newport H2 and the regular newport?
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