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Black Diamond Covert Winter Pack - 1343-1953cu in
Whether you're out enjoying yo-yo out-of-bounds laps at the ski resort or pre-work dawn patrols, there's a Black Diamond Covert Winter Pack for you. The Covert pack is available in a 22L size for times when all you need is your avie gear, and there's a 32L size for half-day backcountry tours. This versatile pack carries skis or a snowboard, and its dedicated avalanche-gear pocket provides fast access to your shovel and probe when the clock is ticking. Black Diamond gave the Covert Pack a Y-suspension frame that moves with your body so you can tear up the backcountry no matter what kind of sled you're riding.
Bottom Line: Grab the Black Diamond Covert Winter Pack, and escape the clutches of chairlifts.
Talk shop with all the gear freaks out there: ask 'em questions, upload/browse photos, and give your 2¢.
Great Day Skiing pack for the BC
By: Andrew McLean
February 3, 2009
Im very particular about my backcountry skiing packs as they have such a big impact on a day of skiing. If they dont fit, have straps in the wrong place, or have features that dont work, you end up dealing with it multiple times per day which adds up to an annoying experience.
But not so with the BD Covert pack. I switched to it this season (from a Switchback pack and before that an Attack Pack) and have been very happy with it for days tours. I got the smallest size (22 liters) as I dont carry much on day tours, and with a small pack, you dont really have the option! It fits a good size shovel blade (G3 AviTech) and has a nice selection of holders for your shovel handle and probe. It also allows many ski carrying options, including my favorite, strapping them to the side.
The Covert comes with all sorts of extra straps which can easily be removed by unclipping them, which I do as I like a nice clean profile for skiing through trees or just keeping the dingle-factor at bay. I tried the AvaLung version of this pack a few years ago and didnt like it as the AvaLung mechanism took up too much room in the small sized pack, which meant I had to upsize to the larger pack to carry the same amount of stuff, which meant the pack was no longer as light and trim. Your mileage may vary.
On the negative side, once you put a shovel blade in the back pocket, it compresses the inside goggle pocket to the point where it is almost uselessly hard to get into, so I carry nothing in there. The hydration tube holder doesnt really keep water from freezing, so it is a bit of a moot feature.
But overall, this is my favorite backpack for day tours around the Wasatch.
Write your question here...Is it possible to put my own avalung
Write your question here...Is it possible to put my own avalung bought separately in the Covert backpack?
By: Milena Padalska
June 22, 2009
No, there is no air port for the avalung, or tube holder in the left strap. Plus the one in this pack is a different design than the standard Avalung. Still compatible separate.
By: Shane O'Donnell
June 22, 2009
Good Ski Pack
By: Julia Niles
March 18, 2009
This is a great choice for a day pack that fits nicely and organizes gear so it is easy to grab in a pinch and intuitive also.
There are not too many extra additions to this pack that I have not found useful in some way. I did find that the straps for carrying the skis diagonally on the back of the pack could be bigger. Skis are getting awesomely fat these days.
My only complaint is that the pack alone seems quite heavy.
I am planning on using this pack for skiing etc... but i also
I am planning on using this pack for skiing etc... but i also want to use it for carrying my books for going to school. will this pack be well suited for that as well?
By: Jon
June 4, 2009
Sure there would be plenty of room and it is durable to!
By: Mike Traslin
June 4, 2009
Yeah, for sure. It has plenty of room for a couple books, and it is super durable so you can count on it not to get busted up from them.
By: Shane O'Donnell
June 4, 2009
A-frame ski carry
By: alex.smoly2255980
February 18, 2009
Perfect, versatile day tour pack.
By: Jim Therrien
February 11, 2009
Being a split boarder, I took my time when searching for a good pack. I needed something that could carry my board when its together, and carry my "skis" when it's split. This pack has many options for carrying your planks. BD definitely thought a few things out. Like the two main straps/clips. They can be used "a-frame" and standard vertical snowboard carry style; both of which I have used. The vertical snowboard carry isn't the best, and it leaves strapping poles to the outside of the pack difficult/impossible. Speaking of strapping poles to it, there are a few different options for that too when its time to descend.
I opted for the smaller size (I wanted a day pack) and couldn't be happier. The front compartment holds my shovel and probe with much room to spare, and the main compartment stores my skins, an extra layer, goggles, and snacks just fine, without over-stuffing.
If you are a splitter, its a great pack. Even if the vertical board carry isn't as awesome as some snowboard specific packs.
This pack doesn't have water bottle pockets or small external/side
This pack doesn't have water bottle pockets or small external/side pockets for other stuff correct? Is this because it is meant for ski/snowboard use?
By: Brian
May 7, 2009
Yes and Yes to both of your questions.
By: Andrew
May 7, 2009
Great pack for backcountry ski touring
By: Blade
December 10, 2007
I love sking in the backcountry where I am on the ski patrol. This area is very avalanche prone and all patrollers carry tranceivers, probes and shovels at all times. This pack makes getting to the avi gear super simple and fast. I also like the full zip insulated pack strap for routing the hydration tube, but wish that the end was a bit larger to hold higher end hydration mouthpieces.
This pack is my patrol pack containing my aid supplies, water, avi gear, food and seat harness/carabiner gear for extraction work. It will just carry all that stuff with careful packing, but I did not want a larger pack, this is big enough.
The interior storage for avi gear keeps the shovel and probe from snagging on tree branches when in tight situations.
All-in-all, this is a great back for working or recreational backcountry day trips.
Need to clarify something before I order. One of the responses
Need to clarify something before I order. One of the responses says it will hold "anything up to 3L." Does that mean up to and INCLUDING 3L? I'm looking at the 100oz. UnBottle and want to make sure it'll fit. Does anyone know if this will work?
By: jon3025059
April 25, 2009
Yes, that's up to and including.
By: Angus Bohanon
April 25, 2009
Nice Call
By: Scottie O
April 3, 2007
The pack you guys recommended was right on the money.Fit all my extra clothes food shovel goggles and gloves.This pack is a real nice WELL MADE pack.I can put my skis on two different ways X or strait up& down.I liked the way it fit also -I've had one other pack and gave up using it because of the fit. hydration pouch will fit any size that I have seen or have.For your out for the day this is my recommendation. Thank you for all your help
Any recommendations for a hydration bag for the s/m 32l bag?
Any recommendations for a hydration bag for the s/m 32l bag?
By: bnew10
April 18, 2009
Basically anything, but since it is a winter pack, I am going to assume you want something that can remain unfrozen as long as possible, so check out the Camelbak Unbottle. AS for size, you can cram anything up to a 3L reservoir into the Covert.
By: Shane O'Donnell
April 18, 2009
Great backcountry day pack
By: alex.smoly2255980
February 20, 2009
I have the 32L version and I find it to be perfect for a day in the backcountry. It carries my safety gear, skins, lunch, puffy, and helmet (if I'm feeling ambitious) all on the inside.
Pros:
- The front pocket fits the safety gear (shovel, probe) as advertised, and not only the small BD shovels like the BD Outlaw pack.
- The larger main compartment has a small zipper pocket at the top, which fits small tools or goggles.
- the large main compartment zips open almost to the bottom of the pack, making the bottom easily accessible.
- comes in small sizes (I'm 5'4 and the pack fits me well)
- great ski carry system (A-frame is my favorite)
- reinforced gear loops for ice axe, etc.
- clip loops at the front for variably sized objects or puffy jackets.
- side straps to compress the profile when the pack isn't full.
- though it doesn't come with a helmet pouch, I've strapped my helmet onto the outside using the two diagonal straps. It also fits inside the large pack with shovel and all.
Cons:
- needs another small pocket on the outside for small objects not to get lots on the bottom
- waist straps aren't as wide as they can be (e.g. with a multi-day pack)
Question - I'm considering a Black Diamond Covert Pack or
Question - I'm considering a Black Diamond Covert Pack or a Black Diamond Outlaw - what is the difference and is it worth spending the extra $ for the Outlaw?
By: ahase851506
April 9, 2009
I gave a little advice on the question posted to the Outlaw page, hope it will help.
By: Shane O'Donnell
April 9, 2009
I have never owned an Outlaw but I started using the the 22L Covert with and avalung this season and I love it. I am about 6ft tall and the waist belt rides up around my belly button but that is my only complaint and it has not gotten in the way yet. The pack fits everything I need for a day in the backcountry and calms my nerves a bit because of the avalung, it might be worth getting the model with the built in avalung if your planning on hitting the backcountry at all. It cost a like twenty dollars more but I have noticed that the model with the avalung has been on Tramdock quite often in the last month or so, if your not in a hurry you might be able to catch it for a little cheaper on there. Here is a link to the model with the built in avalung.
http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD0947/Black-Diamond-Cover
By: Stephen Jew
April 15, 2009
Everyday day pack
By: ocie
June 24, 2009
I use this as my everyday pack. It fits my 15" MacBook Pro perfect (with a sleeve, too), carries books, shirts, whatever you need.
The pouch for a hydration pack is great when heading out for a day hike.
Lightweight pack, comfortable, flexible!
I'm 5'10 and measured my back around 20 inches. Should
I'm 5'10 and measured my back around 20 inches. Should I get the covert 32L in the smaller or larger size? The sizing chart has me right in between sizes.
By: Billy
March 27, 2009
Get the large. I am on a few inches taller and the large works well on me. Also when you are skiing or snowboarding most people are often hunched forward increasing the length of their back.
By: Matthew Cox
March 28, 2009
BD Covert Pack
By: Matthew Cox
March 23, 2009
I love this pack. It is comfortable, simple and doesnt have all kinds of extra crap that I dont need. For any kind of BC ski trip or even when I'm in the slack country I grab this pack.
I would like to tow a ski pulk - sled for hut tripping. I cannot
I would like to tow a ski pulk - sled for hut tripping. I cannot see if there are loops to attach the pulk poles on the waist belt.
By: aarnaes100143109
March 13, 2009
There are not any "gear loops", but there is webbing that part of the waist belt. It is not sewn to the waist belt all the way around so you could carabiners to it without any problem. I dont think it would interfere with the fit or comfort of the pack at all. I can past photos if you need me to. Hope this helps.
By: Matthew Cox
March 23, 2009
Good Ski Pack
By: Wayne Harvey
April 13, 2009
There are very few touring packs that make the grade but this one comes close. The design is excellent and it carries it's load perfectly and the construction is bomber. This is the first pack with a diagonal ski carry option that actually works except...
The only flaw this pack has is it's biggest demise. NONE of the straps are long enough! Especially the strap(s) that secures the diagonal ski! The rest of the straps are just barley useable with golves on in cold winter conditions, I could not imagine even attempting to use the strap features while on technical terrain in conditions that do not warrent removing your gloves. This is a completely in-excusable design flaw. I don't know what the reason is for this except for saving weight but that ideology of saving grams over functionality removes this pack as a contender for anything but powder touring below timberline. For a hardcore performing mountaineering pack I highly reccommend the BCA Stash Alps 40 (or 55), straps are long enough for gloved hands and it has an excellent webbing system to boot.
Not right now unfortunately. The best thing to do is jump on "live chat" and ask those folks. They'll be able to look up if they've got any on order and if so they can give you a rough idea of when they'll be in stock.
By: Steve Tibbitts
March 5, 2009
GREAT PACK
By: Peter Sanford
March 23, 2009
this is my upgrade over a dakine heli pro. the carry system is amazing and the y suspension sits on your waist quite nicely. it's got all the room i need for a day tour, and maybe an overnight hut if i'm going really light.
Can someone please explain the intended way to carry an ice axe
Can someone please explain the intended way to carry an ice axe with this pack? Do I just girth hitch the head with the bottom loop? The instructions were a bit lacking to say the least.
By: codemonkey
February 24, 2009
okay, see the loops on the bottom? you drop your axe through (upright), then flip it over so it's upside-down and cinch the elastic toggle around the shaft. should be pretty secure, though a cover for the bottom spur is a smart idea----------------------------I added a photo below of what I've been trying. I don't think I understand your method - is it just the tension of the elastic that holds it in place? - cm-----------------------------That's it. It's the tension of the elastic that holds it close to the pack, but the strap holds it up. It'll seem much more solid when the pack's got some stuff in it.------------------------------------------Ah cool, thanks. I think what confused me was that my axe is 80cm (I'm somewhat tall), and using the above method there's not enough length in the elastic to loop over the shaft. I have to thread the axe through the elastic loop first, then create the hitch. - cm
By: codemonkey
February 25, 2009
Great Bag
By: progunscou576548
September 22, 2008
This bag rocks, it is comfortable and strong without pressure points on shoulders or hips. I have had a problem with the front zipper slipping open but only when zipping under pressure, never while actually in use. Perfect for a long day of school or a nice long day skinning up and then skiing down your favorite peak.
Will the ski loops work with a pair of Prophet 100's the
Will the ski loops work with a pair of Prophet 100's the have 140mm tips and tails?
By: luk2484469
February 19, 2009
Yes.
By: Bud Martin
February 19, 2009
Great ski pack
By: Matthew Haney-Utah
December 4, 2008
What's nice is it fits your skis very well (lots of options). Typically the skis in my other packs tend to be loose or slide around. This pack is much more solid. I use it for touring, works well. Enjoy!
Thanks for your reply ESTtoMST.So, I am 6'2". From your
Thanks for your reply ESTtoMST.So, I am 6'2". From your answer below, it looks like this pack may ride a little high for someone my height. Could you advise what pack would be good for someone who wants to do day trips, carry skis or snowshoes, have room for lunch, gloves and an extra layer and other small knick-knacks, but still wants a relatively compact pack that doesn't bounce around. I'm primarily XC skiing and snowshoeing with this and don't want to feel like I've got a big bulky thing that makes me sweat stuck on me.The Covert looked like it may fit the bill, but your comment about it riding uncomfortably high made me think twice. Any other pack suggestions for someone my height?
By: Rich-Sliglebone
January 28, 2009
Hey just as an aside, I am 6'2" and found that the BD Anarchist also rode uncomfortably high on my lower back, so this seems to be an issue with their line...
By: Alexander Klivecka
January 28, 2009
Solid pack with nice features
By: skibikejunkie
March 23, 2009
I've got the avalung version of this pack, 32L size. Just enough room for everything you need for day tours. I carry avy gear, a helmet, camera, goggles, spare mittens, water, and a softshell in mine. If it's cold, I'll stick a down vest in there too.
The avalung gives added piece of mind, though I hope to never need it. I like the separate pocket for shovel and probe. Nice to keep that stuff separated from things you get all the time. I carry my helmet with me and don't like it dangling off the back, so having room inside is a plus.
Carries skis well, though you can tell it's a light pack not designed for large loads when they're on there. The rest of the time, fit is comfortable. When I first got it, I wanted more small pockets to keep things organized, but after using it, I haven't missed them.
Overall, great pack. And when you can get it on tramdock, it's that much better.
I'm a 5'4 woman and I'm wondering if anyone knows
I'm a 5'4 woman and I'm wondering if anyone knows whether the small size would be too large. I've not tried on any BD packs but other companies sometimes make the small size too large for us short folk :)
By: alex.smoly2255980
January 28, 2009
The small size should fit you pretty good. It fit my friend, and she is only 5'2, but it might depend on the length of your back.
By: Shane O'Donnell
January 28, 2009
Tuckermans pack
By: john.morey767169
April 23, 2009
The Covert pack was perfect for a hike up to Tuckermans with full ski gear. While others on my group had much larger Winnebago-sized packs ontheir backs, my Covert did the job without the added load and held the skis in place just fine. I was able to carry my shell, light fleece, extra hat, socks and gloves and some food and water with no problem. And I put my boots on my skis before strapping them onto me pack. Straps for skis were simple to use and very secure and shoulder straps were perfectly padded and stayed in place. It also a very good pack for skiing...low profile, good balance and great fit. Overall, a perfect day trip pack for what I needed.
Only critique of the pack was the lack of side pockets or separate zippered chambers for camera, keys, phone, wallet, etc. With only 2 large chambers for gear, it was hard to get to things as they tended to slip to the bottom or get lost in the stack. BD should consider adding a couple secure small side pockets. The other issue I encountered was that when the trail became tight in spots, having the skis strapped to the pack vertically wasn't great as they would get caught on low trees or branches. I found myself twisting to avoid getting hung up.
Overall, a great bag...solid construction and terrific utility for what I needed.
Has anyone used this backpack for BC XCountry Skiing? I’d
Has anyone used this backpack for BC XCountry Skiing? I’d like to get a pack that I could use for day trips but don’t want a huge bulky thing that bumps around and heats me up when I’m working up a sweat after 2 hours into an XC trek. I also want something that can carry food and clothes enough for a day trip and possibly carry snowshoes in case I want to switch out.Is this thing too big and bulky for day long XC trips? Does it ride high or low on your back?
By: Rich-Sliglebone
January 22, 2009
This definitely rides high on your back. I am 6'1" and found it to be almost uncomfortably high. It is not that bulky but definitely has some size to it. The frame is pretty stiff so it doesn't exactly hug your back. It would be able to carry all your gear with ease, however.
By: Rich-Sliglebone
January 28, 2009
Glad I purchased It
By: nbarrows001303298
May 12, 2008
I just got started backcountry skiing this spring, and with the sierra snowpack its an awesome time to get out there. I purchased this pack and have skied one day resort with it, and two days backcountry so far. It is awesome!! Like one other review said, it definitely seems large at first ( Im 6'1" and got the lrg 32L pack) But once its on your back it doesn't hold you back at all. I have not yet tried the diagonal carry, but seeing how well the horizontal carry worked i would imagine it works just as well. The 32L is perfect for backcountry use and can hold perfectly all your avy gear, first aid, food, and extra layers. If you are just looking for a inbounds use pack, I would go with the 22L. All in all this is the most comfortable and useful pack I've used. (And if you don't want to be cheap like me, go with the AVALUNG built into it, Which makes for an even higher tech great pack)
what would you recommend for day trips into the backcountry,
what would you recommend for day trips into the backcountry, the black diamond covert winter pack or the gregory drift pack.
By: marc arminio
December 24, 2008
Black Diamond
By: Michael Kisow
December 26, 2008
Excellent pack, just needs a few small additions
By: bykyrb
March 9, 2009
I can't add much to what has already been said. I have the 32L medium, and it fits me perfectly (6'1" with long legs and short torso). I can fit everything inside it that I need for a day trip, except for a helmet (I have fit the helmet in before, but I have to leave something out like a poofy coat or lunch). I can even fit my BD Deploy 7 shovel in it easily. What I like best is that it has everything you need to be organized and access things easily, but not too many pockets. I also like that the main compartment zips almost all the way down so you can easily pack it and get to stuff in the bottom.
The only two things I would ask for is to make the hip belt more substantial so it transfers more load to the hips and off the shoulders, and add one or two pockets on the belt so I can get to snacks, etc without taking the pack off. (I know, I could carry that in my jacket pockets, but when I'm skinning up I'm usually stripped down to my pocket-less base layer).
Will this do for more then just day trips, like 2-4 day trips.
Will this do for more then just day trips, like 2-4 day trips. or should i go bigger.
By: Ryan Burrows
December 21, 2008
It all depends on what you're carrying, but I'd say pretty confidently that this won't be an effective 4-day pack. One and two days would be fine. Three would be pushing it. You might want to look at the BD Anarchist. It's a little bit bigger.------------Ya, I would go for the Anarchist for multi-day trips.---------------If you're camping rather than hutting, carrying a tent and stove and stuff, I don't think the Anarchist is big enough either. You should go for something in the 55L range. For hut trips, the Anarchist should be good.
By: Angus Bohanon
December 21, 2008
Excellent
By: patmcgunagle2364285
September 18, 2008
This is definitely the best outdoor pack I have ever owned. I bought the 32L and am amazed by the quantity of things it can hold. It hasn't snowed thus far this year, but I have tried out all the ski arrangements and so far like the AFrame the best. Very comfortable as a daypack (I use it at school) and high quality. Water-shedding materials act so well it could be GoreTex. Ships wicked fast as well; I had the 7-14 day shipping and somehow it got to my porch at 1:00 the next day.
what is the set up for carrying a snowboard?
what is the set up for carrying a snowboard?
By: Nate Martin
November 10, 2008
I have this pack and after looking at it I don't think there is a way to strap a board onto it without sewing your own straps on.Actually, the side buckles undo and clip to the ones on the other side of the pack to carry your board no problem!To carry a snowboard with the Covert pack unclip the side straps and sling them across the back of the pack. The buckles are designed to clip together in that formation. The Outlaw is a much better pack for carrying snowboards check it out: http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD0384/Black-Diamond-Outla
By: DakkaGuru
December 1, 2008
great day pack
By: m_l2520235
December 30, 2008
i got the 1953 cu. in. pack and am very pleased with it...simple and well organized avalanche gear pocket, very adjustable and comfortable over winter clothing of various sizes. enough room to store extra clothes, small gear and food. Bladder pouch and sleeve work as intended with my camelback brand bladder - and it holds skies nicely...
how do you put skis on this pack?
how do you put skis on this pack?
By: samuelharl2347089
August 7, 2008
It's a fairly standard ski setup. The skis cross one another, using the loops on the bottom along with the sinch-strap buckles near the top of the pack.
By: Matt Fuller
August 8, 2008
Sweet Ski Pack
By: Skibumbw
February 3, 2009
I bought the 32L version and it fits great while holding lots of stuff. I took it out yesterday for my avalanche level 1 class and it organized all the avy gear great. When we were doing mock searches I was the first one with my probe or shovel out and ready to go.
I also carried some extra layers and food in the inside pocket and had tons of room to spare. This would easily make a great bag for a two or three night trip.
The ski carry is solid and I like the two different options. It fits great, make sure you use the measuring chart to get the right size. There and no real pressure points and it feels really natural and doesn't get in the way while skiing.
Overall a this is a great pack for skiing.
Which shovels fit in the back pocket?
Which shovels fit in the back pocket?
By: mheard2328958
July 28, 2008
check out the Transfer 3http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD0932/Black-Diamond-Tran
By: Gabe Westheimer
August 4, 2008
Great touring pack
By: wmk
November 27, 2006
I have been very impressed with this pack so far. At first it seemed a little large (visually), though after touring with it for the first 3 weeks this season, I have really started to appreciate it. The pack has a well designed outside zippered pocket that fits probe, shovel and probe, and the main compartment has enough room for belay jacket, 48 oz. water bottle, emergency supplies, extra layers etc., without having too much extra space. It rides very well while skiing, and carries skis well (have only tried diagonal carrying method, though assume A-frame works just as well). This is a great pack for those who already own Avalungs, though I might even purchase this pack with the lung for ease of use (no more adjusting the lung over/under layers when skinning/skiing transition). Great pack!
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