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Black Diamond ATC-XP
The Black Diamond ATC-XP is a true variable-friction belay and rappel device with wicked holding power. With the ATC-XP, a climber can control how much friction they want while belaying or rapping, which in turn means greater control with multiple rope diameters. Ice climbing with an 8.1mm rope? Use the ATC-XP in high friction mode, pulling the rope over its contoured teeth. Rappelling with a fuzzy 11mm down a granite slab? Use the device in regular friction mode. An extended central web keeps 'biners and ropes properly oriented and reduces kinking. This Black Diamond belay device is such a favorite among climbers that it won the Climbing Magazine Editor's Choice Award. *Assorted colors.
Bottom Line: Black Diamond has made an essential piece of climbing gear essentially better.
Talk shop with all the gear freaks out there: ask 'em questions, upload/browse photos, and give your 2¢.
Loving my XP
By: Chris Davenport
March 17, 2009
I have been using a GriGri for years while belaying sport routes, but am now stoked on the XP for a few reasons. It's light, really easy to thread, and the high friction mode makes controlling during lowers or rappels super easy. Love it!
Just another ATC-XP fan here.
By: Phunk
June 1, 2006
I use the toothy side for lead belaying climbers heavier than I am, or for rappelling on skinnier ropes.
Got a fatter rope, or a skinnier climber to belay, go for the toothless side. Love it!
This is a great device for a beginner, easy to use and grips skinny ropes well.
By: Evan Stevens
1 day ago
Great for belay
By: Ernesto V.
June 19, 2009
I use a 10.3mm rope for rock climbing and the ATC-XP works great with it. The high friction side is great for belay, however not for rappel; it's a little bit too much friction and sometimes you have to feed the rope when you're beginning the descent at the top of the route. But that's why this ATC has a low friction side and it performs really good too. Definitely recommended.
Great Belay Device
By: jper11
June 16, 2009
The ATC-XP works great and makes belaying easy with the high friction side, but also allows for a smooth rappel with the low friction side. I have had it for a year and a half now and it is still going great.
is a grigri a a better choice for sport climbing than atc xp?
is a grigri a a better choice for sport climbing than atc xp? i know its auto locking but is it really worth extra bucks for sport? already own an xp wondering if i should upgrade to grigri thanks
By: jonnyshreder
June 21, 2008
I agree. the grigri can be good for being the belay whore for newbies but for sport its not ultra fun messing with. this locker on the xp is perfect for a good solid lock down and is way easy to use.
By: Adam Buchanan
April 1, 2009
stick with the XP. feeding rope through the gri-gri to your leader is a hassle, and m,y XP has done everything i've ever needed it to while sport climbing.(Eric) I agree that the grigri is a waste of money for sport climbing. I actually find it a nuissance for most applications...but its popularity implies a usefulness somewhere.
By: Eric McCammond
March 7, 2009
I would recommend the XP
By: Jake McRae
April 9, 2009
Hey Eric, maybe it's popular for top roping without a backup belayer? It's not such a mystery afterall! I know when I have a new belayer I appreciate the autolocking function!
That said, if you're alpine/ice climbing or glacier walking, the thinner rope you're probably using is very manageable with this device! So this device and the grigri have different applications, choose the appropriate device for your purposes!
By: jbaysurfer872480
June 1, 2009
Works just fine
By: Matt Oliver
March 26, 2009
I like my XP just fine, it works just like it is suppose to. But after I bought it I read an article that said the longer friction channel and sharper V shape of the BD ATC builds more heat from friction and is harder on your rope's sheath then others like the Reverso 3 which has half the channel length and a more rounded trough.
Very nice
By: Jake McRae
April 10, 2009
Used the teeth when i was repealing with a wet 8mm rope and worked awesome
Better in Every Way
By: James Wright
August 26, 2004
Just as solid as the standard ATC, the ATC XP is great for weaker belayers, for more control, or for lazy belays. Repels and belays just as well as the standard ATC. Bomber.
Can you use 12 mil rope with this?
Can you use 12 mil rope with this?
By: bguilbeau2247057
June 5, 2008
I used a rope that I believe was 11 mm and on a double rope rap it was slow to feed, but worked. A 100 pound gal with us had to feed it through to get down. I just measured the actual slots and there are two slots about 14.5 mm across the narrow axis and 30 mm on the long axis. So it a 12 mm rope would fit, it just might be stiff to work it through.
By: Pliny
August 25, 2008
Its pretty stiff but its possible
By: Jake McRae
April 9, 2009
Easy to use
By: Ryan Connell
June 13, 2009
I'm new at outdoor climbing and my first time out I used a black diamond ATC and my shoulder was sore the next day. With the XP I have no problems and the grooves make belaying a breeze.
Excellent
By: NvHiker
December 10, 2007
This is my first belaying device. I read other reviews on this device and it works just as they say. Works excellent for me and if I loose it, I will buy it again. I like the control it gives and I haven't experienced rope problems when using it. If you haven't got one, buy it!
what is this thing compared to a grigri? besides the el cheapo
what is this thing compared to a grigri? besides the el cheapo price tag. Really love the grigri but have never tried this little dude.
By: Adam Buchanan
March 6, 2008
a grigri automatically locks you out. you need to physically pull back the little swingarm to allow the climber slack. this device allows you to do that with arm placement. no moving parts in it, just the rope through it.
By: the fourth
April 21, 2008
Great for all climbers
By: morning star
April 7, 2006
This is such a great improvement from the original ATC. The teeth and the v-shaped rim really help take pressure from your arms, hands, and minds. It's great for rappelling and belaying, and it is very light and simple, and also inexpensive.
Great and Durable
By: Gee Alsenz
January 29, 2009
Long-lasting and efficient. Double mouths and teeth provide control. This is my go-to belay device unless rope-soloing or big-wall. Perfect for sport and multi-pitch trad.
Solid ATC
By: Christophe
May 4, 2009
This ATC is very solid, feels very durable and safe. 10+mm ropes go through easily and the teeth are a nice added friction when rappelling or belaying someone down.
On the other hand, it's a bit big compared to the others.
improving a classic??
By: backcountryreviewer - tony
May 20, 2004
We all know the ATC. We probably all have one or have owned one at some point. How can BD possibly improve on such a classic, clean, simple, lightweight and proven design? They add teeth. I was skeptical about the ATC-XP at first, but I am a believer now. It's basically the same trusted feel of the regular ATC but when you want to use them, the teeth are a worthy feature. Skinny double rope rappels won't cause your palms to heat up like a burner plate anymore. And it's still lightweight, compact, and of course bombproof. Pick one up.
Don't leave home with out it.
By: William Blake
August 17, 2006
Every climber should own this piece of gear. You wont need another belay or rappel device with this on your side.
great!
By: dreammachine
September 5, 2003
On pictures it may look a little fragile, or weak, but when you have it on your biner, you change your mind. While belaying you don´t worry of your partner, because it holds falls great. While rappelling you can control your descent great. Highly recommended.
Solid
By: sms
March 2, 2006
A great lock-off belay device. Doesn't have the best rope feed of belay devices I've used, but its definitely adequate.
Solid ATC
By: Blake Oliver
May 26, 2009
This is a really nice ATC. A regular ATC gets it done but the teeth on this make it stand out.
Get safe
By: India Delta
May 16, 2009
If it doesn't pass a whistle test, don't use it. Safe'n up Fools..........
Black Diamond ATC-XP Rappel Basket
By: Miguel
August 18, 2005
I have a whole bunch of models of rappelling baskets, and the Black Diamond ATC-XP is the best and most comfortable to use. Don't waste your time and get the best. This is it.
Migs
ATC-Xp
By: BossHogg
November 4, 2004
The ATC-XP locks very quickly and holds strong with several types of rope. Gym ropes that are thick (11mm), sometimes make for a bumpy belay. The belay on smaller diameter ropes offers an astoundingly smooth belay.
Recommended for students and pros.
By: Pliny
September 8, 2008
I have used this device for about a year. It is better than a figure-eight device because it doesn't twist the rope. The high friction mode slows the rappel to make it safer, and when used to belay I fell it stops the fall faster. The price seems okay and it is light and easy to use. Durable. I found the workmanship somewhat wanting: Not polished. But the function is superior.
great device
By: msf
March 15, 2005
I have used the older BD ATC device, and a Trango device, and have found that this is the best of the three. When rappelling, the teeth on the device make controlling speed relatively easy.
Good ATC for the price...
By: sean
March 21, 2005
The ATC has good flow without too much friction. Its great for belay or repel. I recommend it.
ATC-XP
By: Chris
March 21, 2005
This variable Friction belay device is great. It gives you a little more control and makes belaying easier than the regular ATC in high friction mode. However if you do not want high friction just turn it around and it is like the regular ATC. Great product. Recommend buying it if you do a lot of belaying.
A sturdy and reliable ATC Belay device
By: Panzer
June 20, 2007
Have used this only once (I just received it recently) and it works great. The 'teeth' that are sculpted into the steel work great in two settings - high friction and standard - both hold the weight of the climber without putting too much strain on the belayer.
Its ok, but the ATC is better
By: Eric B.
January 13, 2005
I bought one of these and I liked it, but it is a little hard to get the rope in the teeth, unlike the ATC. With the ATC you can put the rope to the side, at any place and it stops the fall. With the ATC-XP you have to get it in those little teeth. Now you can flip it around and use it the other way, but whats the point of getting the ATC-XP. If you are just starting out, this is a good item, it will give you a little edge. If you are not just starting out, and you are exploring new stuff, I prefer the ATC because I like the simplicity much better.
atc-xp
By: mcfly
May 10, 2005
I am a beginner to repelling so I don't know too much about the sport. I bought the ATC-XP because it was the best price I found. I have used it a couple of times and so far it has worked great.
My first ATC
By: Maximus Gradient
April 29, 2009
And I couldn't be happier with it. Has a good bite and belays well. Lightweight and low profile.
Good for beginners
By: andisandi
December 12, 2006
I am a beginner climber and this is a great belay device. It's easy to use and well made. All of my friends have this one too. Gotta have it!
The ATC-XP is solid,
By: Jordan P.
July 21, 2005
At first I thought the teeth might just a gimmick to charge a little more for a fancy-looking ATC, but I thought I'd try it out. My climbing partners have about 60 lbs on me (I'm 5'3"/120) and I thought something that would increase the friction when I lock-off would be great. This ATC really delivered! Of course other Black Diamond ATCs don't slip when you lock-off correctly, but this one holds just as much without having to try as hard to maintain a steep angle, which can be tiring if you're using it all day. Better to save your energy for the climb. And for the times I belay someone more than my size I just flip it and use the regular friction side.
climbing gear
By: 2dtop
January 30, 2006
I ordered all the basic climbing gear for my sister. She is a beginner climber and loves her new gear. The harness runs a little small, I had read this in a review and ordered a size larger for her so it fit fine. The staff in customer service was helpful with replying promptly to a question I had with my order. I was very pleased with the whole ordering process.
Good teeth
By: Michaela
March 17, 2006
The XP is a great device, the only problem that I have had is there being too much friction through using the teeth. This does not occur all the time but when you first use the extra friction side you will immediately notice a difference versus a normal ATC. Rapelling is very safe and secure. Great device, and I have been happy with it. It belays and rappels well with all rope diameters.
I prefer the Classic ATC
By: Cory Guru
May 11, 2009
Yes, the high friction mode is nice when repelling or dealing with a load, but these teeth do hangup rope-feed when belaying; Either way I flipped this device I always felt more drag than the classic ATC design.
ATC-tastic
By: Dave A
September 5, 2006
This ATC is like most other ATC's you'll find on the market. The added friction comes in handy for abseiling, and belaying otherwise like all other ATC's, it does what it's suppose to do. If it didn't, I wouldn't be writing this right now.
I was pleased with the ATC-XP
By: TooMuchTrad
December 12, 2006
I have used a few different belay devices, but I enjoy this one the most. It has low friction until you put it in the break position and requires minimal tension to remain in the break position. My partner has taken some hefty whippers and this stops any extra slack being fed to him.
if your in the market
By: JOHN GILCHRIST
December 18, 2006
I use an atc xp and would recommend upgrading to a Guide xp It's the same belay device just with more options one day you might want the auto lock feature. The teeth are great for double ropes that are smaller in size.
love it
By: Meagan Scriven
December 15, 2006
This ATC is still a pretty simple design, but in may ways it's better. It catches the rope better making it a little easier on your hand.
The Black Diamond ATC-XP Gives Confidence To Beginning Climbers
By: amy3dog
September 1, 2008
As a beginning climber, I feel so much more confident belaying using the Black Diamond ATC-XP. The 'high friction mode' (pulling the rope over its contoured teeth) makes a big difference in control belaying a heavier partner. Plus it is so easy to use.
BEST BELAY
By: TVOCAL
December 11, 2007
I LOVE THIS BELAY. ITS A LITTLE MORE DURABLE THEN YOUR BASIC BELAY. LIGHTWEIGHT, EASY TO USE
Great ATC
By: thewatersg1411952
November 10, 2008
I still have to convince my wife that ATC is a clever name .... but its good to know that she can have the extra friction as a beginning climber. I have been climbing 15 years and love this device as well. If you are looking at getting just one belay device- this is it!
Simple is best.
By: japnmae2193956
June 2, 2008
Takes the shortcomings of many devices on the market and improves on them. Even my novice Nephews find it simple to use. (Supervised of Course) Never used the low friction side before though, never needed to yet. Must admit heat buildup is significant compared to other tube devices but the dissipation is really quick so thats good.
Love it
By: susankng2066641
August 19, 2008
usually climb with people who are heavier than me, and the little teeth on the end are wonderful. they provide more control, and i'm less prone to rope burn.
Black Diamond ATC-XP - My favorite
By: MJ Johnston
October 8, 2008
The Black Diamond ATC-XP is easily my favorite ATC. The high friction mode helps a lot especially when belaying someone who weighs more than you. I also love it for its versatility in rappelling. The high friction mode gives you security on those long rappells but filp it around and have fun soaring down those others with a little more speed. It is the best ATC for the all around climber/canyoneer.
love
By: austin Heath
May 8, 2008
As a novice climber, I love the friction on this rope. I seem to always be belaying someone heavier than me, and this gives me the control I need to feel confident doing so.
Works great
By: jefftyoung2234926
June 4, 2008
I'm just under 2 bills and my wife is only 1 and she can belay me with ease with this thing.
Good belay device- not the best
By: Desert Backpacker
May 16, 2008
This is a good belay device. However, I have found that it tends to blacken the rope faster than other belay devices, particularly than the block belay devices, like the classic ATC and others. It's a great device other than that.
Great piece of gear
By: wmo2507015
November 26, 2008
The slow descent really does make a great controlled descent that allows you to feel in control. I've caught several big falls on it so far and its working great. Def. would recommend for price and quality.
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