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Denim jeans might cut when you're traipsing around the street, but reach for the Stoic Men's Microlith Softshell when you head into the mountains. Highly breathable and highly water-resistant, these threads provide lightweight protection from the elements whether you're climbing the Tetons in September, skate-skiing in April, or backpacking in June. Articulated knees and stretch fabric let you maneuver easily. Just slip a snack or car key in the welded-on thigh pocket and head for the hills in this simple, supremely-versatile pant.

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Cheap product does the job

  • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer
  • Fit:True to size

Material had a good finish initially, but began to pill after couple of washes. It's good for cold/windy weather, but I would not use them as a waterproof solution. They are nice and stretchy so excellent for climbing. The single pocket is a bit of a bummer as you can't store much and the pocket is really small. Part of my climbing gear now, but if I would not buy them again.

Quickly deteriorated

  • Familiarity:I've used it several times
  • Fit:True to size

Material was great initially: fantastic for cool-weather outdoor activities, quite warm and repelling rain/snow effectively. Started to pill after a couple washes (in fact if you google "softshell pant pill" the first thing that comes up is this pant). Never really loved having a single pocket, then pocket started delaminated. Returned them.

Cheap product

  • Familiarity:I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
  • Fit:True to size

The material is comfortable and stretchy, and appears to maintain decent water repellant characteristics out of the box. I used these on a 10 day Alaska hunting trip and was disappointed. The material almost immediately started to pill and fuzz without even taking them into any brush at all. I wore them under a gore-tex shell most of the time while in brush. The lack of quality on the pocket is apparent. It seems as if the designer wanted to give you that arcteryx-look with a welded pocket, but they miss the mark.



Bottom-line: if you want to look "outdoorsy" on a budget when you're hanging around Boulder, go right ahead, these pants will probably still pill. If you want a quality product to actually do something in, these pants are over-priced and under-performing at $40. I'm disappointed Backcountry.com.

Awesome pants, but not a lot of storage.

  • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer
  • Fit:True to size

I really like these pants, they are super light weight, have a good stretch to them, and are really comfy. The only qualm I have with them is there is only one pocket on them. Other than that they are perfect.

Nice pair of pants

  • Familiarity:I returned this product before using it

I ordered it as it was on sale. I did not keep it in the end, but it fit me well.

I am 6'1" and 174lb I bought the Large size. It fitted perfectly and I like the design. I did not like the fact that there are no real pockets. I did like the material, which seems to be water repelling as well as breathable. the material stretches nicely and I can see this as a perfect pair of pants for cooler spring and fall hikes. I think it would be way too hot for summer use in the sierras. I returned it because I don't like the khaki/brown color and the lack of pockets.

Feel nice

  • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer

These are stretchy, comfy, and they look good. Only just got them, so I can't speak for durability yet.



--Update--

Yes it does ball up like cheap 90's fabric, but I stay on top of ripping those little suckers off, and its actually been a way good pair of climbing pants. Breathes way better than I thought it would. It also stretches nice when I climb.

Cheap material?

    After wearing in the car for about 5 hours these pants were pilling like crazy in the crotch. Is this a cheap material or do people just not care? I can see this happening after a year or so of decent use, but on the first day? No way can I recommend these. I've been really happy with Stoic products until this. What a disappointment

    Good All- Around Pant

      Got these for Christmas and so far I've mainly just used them at my indoor rock gym and for lounging around but i've been pretty pleased. They have great stretch and seem pretty durable. Pretty good breathability. Issues- piling on seat and knees and the pocket. I have gotten used to the pocket, but the problem is in the design- it lies right where my leg loops in my harness are which gets anoying- if stoic works on the design these would be 5 star pants

      Go-To Pants

      • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer

      I absolutely love these pants. They are my go-to pant for so many activities. I've used them on cold winter runs, climbing, back country touring/skiing, lounging around the house. Unless it's a super cold morning, I've found that these offer enough protection from the elements to keep me warm on dawn patrol ski tours. They're light weight, very flexible, and they repel water. And they have enough cuff stretch to fit over a ski boot. If I was to be sitting around in the snow for a long time I imagine they'd get uncomfortable.



      My only real complaint is they tend to get fuzzy spots (pill up) easier than I would expect. But for a pant that I typically abuse, I'm not worried.

      Pocket detached after a few months

      • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer

      I've been looking for a pair of softshell pants for winter climbing and these were just what I was looking for. I didn't want to break the bank trying out my first pair of softshell pants so getting them on sale was perfect. They pill easily as others have said, mainly from my harness I think. Not sure how much pilling would occur if you were just wearing them as casual/travel pants. I'm very tall, my inseam runs anywhere from 34" - 36". The large is just long enough not to look silly, at least as climbing pants. I probably wouldn't wear these around town since they are just a tad too short for that.



      Edit: After wearing these for a few months, the pocket started to fall apart and became useless. It looks like the pocket was actually glued onto the shell, not sewn. This along with the excessive pilling (I have the "Dune" colored pants and the pilling really shows) is forcing me to return them. Nice pants but it appears they have quality control issues.



      I wore these exclusively as outdoor climbing pants for the winter, 1-2 times per week. I'm guessing my harness leg loop must have rubbed against the pocket to cause it to detach. These are probably just fine as hiking/travel pants, but the quality is not up to snuff for climbing.

      nice pants

        These are good pants. Used on one long camping/climbing trip to southern utah. really comfortable, and held up well to lots of scraping on the sandstone. They also provide a lot more stretch for movement than I expected.

        The Ups and Downs

          First off I ended up returning these pants not because I didn't like them but because I just needed something different.

          Ups: The fabric is very functional, it is stretchy and the pants are gusseted for full unrestricted movement. I took them caving and I spent 6 hours crawling and sliding on sharp rocks with no visible wear. Good water and wind resistance. The pants shed water and are immediately dry after fully submerging them in water. The was nice for cold water crossings in the cave.

          Downs: The belt is silly and always comes undone. There is only one pocket. As with any soft shell you have to wash it with nikwax to retain water resistance. They don't wash up as nice as other pants I've used and the fabric started to pill up (get little fuzzies) in common wear spots like the knees and butt and under my harness. Are too warm for midsummer wear but are great for fall and spring.

          The Ups and Downs

          PILLs

            WARNING: These pants pill like 90's cheap fleece. After I hiked for two days with these pants they were full of pills. Very disappointing. I question their long term durability.

            I got to test these for a week in alpine environment. They breathe well in the 90's and kept me warm down to 30's. They kept the chilly wind out when I walked along the mountain crest. They feel light and comfortable. Their elasticity allows great range of movement.

            Water repellency is weak. Waterfall mist and very light rain rolls off, but rain goes right through them. Maybe spray on DWR would help, but stock they are disappointing. My patagonia slopestyle hoodie, which isn't even a softshell kept my dry longer in rain.

            Unanswered Question

            Hi, I plant to use this pants for biking...

            Hi, I plant to use this pants for biking (Road and MTB) do you guys see any problems with the fit? Will they stand the wind?

            Thanks,

            A|M

            I recently ordered the Stoic Bertol Guide...

            I recently ordered the Stoic Bertol Guide Softshell Pants in small and I found them tight on my 32 waist, 150LBs. Do these have a similar fit? I guess I should get a medium?

            I ordered the Medium and they worked out well. I am 150LBs, 32. I would compare their fit to Arc'teryx and Marmot. Basically a size up from what brands mortals wear.

            For some reason the belt is seems to sit above the pants, but I don't really mind it.

            Hello, I am kind of a small guy and have...

            Hello, I am kind of a small guy and have a 30 waist. I buy all my climbing/hiking shorts in small. I really like the look of these pants and they only have mediums. So do you think the belt would tighten up enough around my waist?

            is there snug closure or a gaiter on the...

            is there snug closure or a gaiter on the leg cuff to grip a cross country ski boot?

            Do they make these in womens? They look...

            Do they make these in womens? They look awesome but men's pants don't fit me well and I was hoping they made a women's version??

            In short: exchange L for XL, or return?...

            In short: exchange L for XL, or return? 6'2", 220 lbs, 36" waist, 33" inseam.

            I love the Overhang size XL that I picked up a while back, but when I ordered these I didn't have the Overhangs handy and couldn't remember my size, so I ordered a size L by the sizing chart. No I remember that the size L Overhangs were way too snug around my 36" waist, which is why I exchanged them for the XL. The Microlith L showed up today, and they actually fit great, except that the crotch is way too snug, as some reviews have stated. I'm wondering if exchanging for the XL would give a more relaxed fit in the crotch, even if it means I'll have to cinch the belt down a little more. Or can I expect the fit to relax after a dozen or two wearings? Or are these just cut with a more "athletic" fit that I'm not really digging?

            cgi100555817 - Stoic Microlith Pant are designed with a more athletic cut. One reason for this cut is to allow them to be layered under shell pants without interfering with fit of the shell.

            I would not count on the fit changing much on these pants after a little use. The Microlith softshell consists of nearly 10% spandex which helps maintain consistent power/stretch through the life of the pant.

            I'm not the size/shape that backcountry...

            I'm not the size/shape that backcountry typically builds for. Should I avoid these pants as a 5'11 190, 36X31? I'm concerned that the L will have too tight of a waist and that the XL will be crazy long.

            i wear 32 waist 34 length pants. what size...

            i wear 32 waist 34 length pants. what size would make these look least ridiculous?

            Not sure if the length will work for you. My mediums measured exactly 32" on the inseam. A large should also be a 32" inseam but may have a longer outseam to add length, but it will have a very baggy waist. You can always oeder a pair try it on and if it doesnt work send them back with BC's excellent return policy (just keep the tags on)

            How do these compare in size to the stoic...

            How do these compare in size to the stoic overhang pants. similar sizing and cut?

            Best Answer

            I've disagree, I have both, and as others have said, these are cut kinda tight in the crotch. Strangely, they are actually a little looser in the thigh and waist than the Overhang, but the crotch really shows a bulge, and it's not like I'm above average or anything. I've got XL in the overhang because the L was a little too tight for my 36" waist, but the L Microliths fit very well (other than the crotch).

            Stoic Overhang pant or Softshell Pant? I...

            Stoic Overhang pant or Softshell Pant? I am planning a trip to do Mt. Moran next week and I have a pair of the overhang pants but I worry they are too warm for this time of year. I have been told that there is still snow above 8,000ft. and our camp is at 8,200ft I think.

            How is the durability? will these pants...

            How is the durability? will these pants hold up walking through thick brush intermingled with briars & thorny vegatation? I need a pant that is durable but also keeps you dry and won't overheat...

            Hey everybody, Can anyone comment on the...

            Hey everybody,

            Can anyone comment on the fit of these pants (are they tight in the legs? etc)? I'm a 31" waist, 31" inseam and i'm wondering whether to go with the small or medium.

            Thanks in advance!

            Do these have a synch cord at the ankles?...

            Do these have a synch cord at the ankles? What is the ankle circumference? Just trying to figure out if they will fit over ski boots.
            Thanks

            The Microlith Softshell Pant does not have a cinch cord at the ankle. The 16.5" circumference (size medium) ankle opening was specifically designed to create a tight seal when stretched over a ski boot, but not be too big/floppy for other aerobic activities not requiring a boot.

            How do these compare to the Stoic Overhang...

            How do these compare to the Stoic Overhang pant? Is the fit the same? Are they lighter/thinner/stretchier/better/worse??

            What do these pants weigh? Are they thicker...

            What do these pants weigh? Are they thicker or thinner than the Marmot Scree? Do they really have just one pocket?

            Best Answer

            I just got off of the live chat, and was told that these pants weigh: "0.82 lbs, about 13 oz." I just thought I would share. As for comparison to the scree, the scree pants weigh 17oz (http://marmot.com/products/scree_pant) with more pockets, so it would seem the microlith pants are a bit thinner and not as warm.

            No problem! I was wondering what the weight on these were too. You might also check out the rab treklite softshell pants (http://www.backcountry.com/rab-treklite-soft-shell-pant-mens), or the mountain hardware chockstone pants (http://www.backcountry.com/mountain-hardwear-chockstone-pant-mens). Both are on sale right now too. I have to chockstone jacket and it is very abrasion resistant, and very, very thin. Not much in the warmth department. Good luck!

            Given the apparent lack of a fly, ankle zips/shock cord, and 4 or 5 hand warmer pockets, I'd say the weight difference has little to do with fabric weight, ie, they would be very comparable in terms of warmth and whatnot.