Stoic LTWT Sleeping Pad - Short
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Item # SIC0084
2011 model no longer available.
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Stoic LTWT Sleeping Pad - Short $0.00
Tech Specs
| Material: | , 20D Nylon |
| Dimensions: | 48 x 20 x 1 in |
| Claimed Weight: | 12 oz |
| Recommended Use: | 3-season backpacking and camping |
| Manufacturer Warranty: | lifetime |
Description
Pack light, sleep well.
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Great for the price
jus5653237
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So mine doesn't self-inflate..which is fine since it takes less than two minutes to blow it up by air. Super comfortable, plenty wide and long enough for my torso and half my upper legs (I'm 5'11), and definitely worth the price (got it for $19 off SAC).
Great for Backpacking
cor3676124
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Have used this half a dozen times backpacking and I've never been anything but comfortable. I am 5'4" and the length is fine for me. Packs down very small!
Tried using on a wooden bunk bed and that was not comfortable, so keep it on the ground :-). Ended up putting a foam pad under it and slept on that for 5 weeks while living abroad and it has held up.
Can't beat it!
SpaceMac
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This pad is excellent. It is surprisingly comfortable for how thin, light weight and compressible it is. Other pads that provide the same level of comfort are much larger and often involve strapping the pad to the outside of your pack. This pad compresses to the size of a nalgene and weighs less. So far no durability problems but for this price I would probably just buy another. Throw it in your pack, forget its there and go to bed with a smile on your face.
can't argue with the price
Anonymous
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I actually got this pad for my little Stafford bull terrier to use when we camp. I wanted something that would keep him warm and protect the floor of my tent. For $25 bucks I couldn't go wrong. Im glad i pulled the trigger and picked this up. the first time I inflated and he realized the pad was his he started jumping and rolling all over it. I think the material will hold up well, if it could hold his weight and take his rough housing it will hold up with no problems. It packs down small and still covers a decent amount of space. I could see myself going to this pad in an emergency. I thought about getting a second one for that reason but with the thickness I don't think its really worth it. For me a 1 inch pad just isnt going to cover up or protect me from the ground. But if your under 200 lbs and shorter then 5' 10 this might be great option!! I give it 5 stars because it filled all my expectations
Keeping hopes high
aja4799615
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Used this pad for a few backpacking trips. On the last day of one of my trips, about 2 months after purchase, the pad EXPLODED. And I mean exploded. It sounded like a gun shot in the early morning. They said this was a warranty breaker, obviously, and no one else has complained of the issue. I'm going to try the pad one more time, because it was so lightweight and pretty darn comfy, I'll post back up for durability.
great for a lightweight pad!
amelia
Member since
- Gender: Female
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
Is this pad an ultra comfy, ultra insulating sleeper sofa? No. But if you're looking for a very lightweight, very packable pad, it's fantastic. I wish I would have bought this years ago. There have been several backpacking trips that I have gone without a pad to save space and weight, but no more now that I have this guy! The negligible weight and space it takes up in your pack (especially if you only use one velcro strap and skip the stuff sack) make it a no brainer to bring it. And getting it on sale made it even more of a steal! I found it to be surprisingly comfortable too for a pad this thin. I can't fully attest to its durability, but after a handful of times being used directly on the ground in the desert, it's still holding up great.
Comfy and light.
myton
Member since
More comfortable than a ridgerest, just as light, and packs very small. Those were my hopes and they were fulfilled. Not convinced that it will be super durable, but thus far it's held up. It's not miles more comfortable, but it's definitely a noticable improvement. I'd be curious what the R value is. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bit low. However, I've used this plus a full length ridgerest on snow more than once and been quite satisfied. Overall I'd recommend, especially with the low price.
No Excuse for Shoddy Workmanship
MOSHE KRAMER
Member since
Picked this up for a 3 week backpacking trip in AZ. Wasn't expecting much, just a light weight minimalist pad. After the second night, 2 holes show up around the valve, right on the seams. Disappointing, but it comes with a repair kit, so no big deal, right? Wrong..
The repair kit is an utter joke. A tiny tube of "glue", and a little piece of plastic to cover the hole. The glue was absolutely worthless. Luckily a friend had some seam sealer that was able to patch it for the remainder of the trip. You couldn't pay me to hike with this thing again..
The unbearable lightness of worthlessness
jba3267919
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I get it; this pad is very light and compact and that means compromise. I received a few days ago and plan to take it out for an overnight next weekend for a first run so expect that this reveiw will be appended.
Just from my initial home set up and trial, I am wondering whether is this 10 or 12 oz worth even carrying. This is not like a Thermarest where most of the inflation is done by the expansion of the internal baffeling. Once inflated by my own hot air, I tested with a few small things underneath and you can feel them all. I don't know of an outdoor environment where this pad would provide a benefit over sleeping on the ground. Maybe a cold but flat rock. The skin does not seem tough enough for any abrasion. More like a mylar balloon with some light foam in it.
So, initially, very skeptical but I am also pleased with all of my BC/Stoic gear experiences so we shall see.
Good... Bad
brice
Member since
The light weight rivals pads 3 times the price. It is also compact and comfortable for only 1" of insulation. The warpmth (R-value) is similar to a foam pad like a z-rest. But with that light weight you also sacrifice durability. I WILL NOT take this alpine climbing because it is too much of a liability. For a similar weight and warmpth (but more bulk) a foam pad is much more reliable and fool proof. The one I have seems to have come with a built in leak and won't hold air for the full nights sleep. If you can get it cheap on sale, like I did, then it is great for use inside a tent (where the floor will protect it) on a backpacking trip. But on cold snowy multi day climbing trips where your life depends upon your equipment not a prudent choice, take the bulky pad.
Great for trips where you are covering distance.
Wayne Christoffersen
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If I need to cut weight this is my go-to pad. I have slept on this this on rock, sand, and everything in between. Packs down to the point where it isn't even noticeable. You obviously give up some comfort because of the length but you should know that going into buying a short pad. If you see this pad on Steepandcheap.com then buy it without a second thought.
Wee tiny!
j.a3892736
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No compromise pad
j.a3892736
Member since
This pad rocks! Comparable in weight to foam pads, but packs down to nothing. I've been through a lot with this pad, and it hasn't let me down! Well, except when I put a big cut in it with a sharp point sticking out of my cooking-kit, but a little duct tape saved the day. If you want to get a sleeping pad, and you like to go light, but you don't want a bulky foam pad dangling off the outside of your pack, this pad is the best choice.
See photo below: This definitely wasn't the pad's fault! Taped up and good to go! Turns out my patching job was a little leaky (pad gets soft by morning) so I'm going to get the same pad again! Nothing beats the Stoic LTWT Pad!
Decent
Jayson Momeyer
Member since
People who are complaining about this are missing the point. This is NOT a BA air core, it's not meant to sleep on a bed of nails and insulate you below 0. It's great for summer and warm spring/fall trips and really keeps the weight down.
It does what it's made for, and does it well. But dont take this winter camping, or if you're sleeping on gravel.
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david day
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I own the full size version of this pad and I gotta say...plush! If you don't mind the extra weight over a foam pad this is a great place to start. You might be able to find it with some patience on steepandcheap.com for over half off like I did. No holes, packs down tight, fairly light, solid pad.
Stoic LTWT
Ebo3376796
Member since
You buy this pad because your <5' tall, or your looking to shave ounces. This actually weighs in at Just 10.75 oz without the stuff sack or cords (rubber bands work just as well).
I got this pad because it has the same specs as the prolite short, but a lot cheaper. For being only 1" thick it's pretty comfortable as long as you choose a rock free campsite. I can sleep anywhere on my big Agnes insulated air core, but this is half the weight so it's well worth it.
Like other reviews of this and the regular sized version say it takes a while to inflate the first few times but slowly gets quicker. It doesnt puff up as fully as a thermarest, but I think that actually makes it more comfortable (you can always put a few breaths in there if you want).
ehhh
willhuff.net
Member since
I tried this out after coming from my Big Agnes full size pad, and my experience was not good. It doesn't inflate very thick, but the small amount of air it does hold seems to hold through the night. It was just a small layer of cushion which was only a slight improvement over the ground.
I'm not sure how this works but my full size Big Agnes packs down smaller than this.
BOMBER!!!
jason spellman
Member since
DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE REVIEW BY mod3517570 below. he or she put this pad under legs and his/her pack under the upper body. I irks me when I see great (even mediocre) products get bad reviews because the reviewer doesn't know what he/she is doing!
when used properly, this thing is awesome. self-inflating. i also own the stoic step pad (the longer version of this pad, see my review of it as well) and have had no problems with leaks, foam shifting, deflating during the night, etc...from either. no problems whatsoever. valve is brass and it has a tough plastic coating that sits inside its junction with the pad fabric...this makes sure that no undue stress is put on the valve itself. i love this guy (and i have had self inflating and insulated self-inflating pads by big agnes and thermarest..granted they were older models).
comes with a patch kit (which was disappointing when i opened the box...i was thinking great, this thing is gonna leak) but it has thus far been needless over many nights on various terrain...(had the stoic step pad for over a year with no problems)...
do yourself a favor and get one!
jason spellman
Member since
also, this guy has been showing up on steepandcheap.com for $25-$30. but you should know i paid full retail and will do so again should the need ever arise...but i dont see it happening...
MOSHE KRAMER
Member since
Not sure why you had to disparage another reviewer just because you disagree with him. Pretty weak dude..
Weight-Watchers
ben wheeler
Member since
The LTWT Short length sleeping pad is a great pad for those looking to shave some weight and gain some more room in their pack. On the other hand, if you're more concerned with a thick, plush pad that you don't have to pack very far - this is probably not the best choice for you.
Using this pad on the trail requires a little more discretion and or preparation of your tent site. If you decide to pitch your tent and pad directly on top of rocks and roots, you'll probably be able to feel them through this pad - not a whole lot of lightweight pads can overcome a poorly chosen tent site.
Your back and legs will be glad you chose to carry this LTWT pad on the trail, and if scoring a good tent site, they won't mind sleeping on it either.
not comfy
mod3517570
Member since
I was all excited about this lightweight sleeping pad for backpacking but was disappointed when I used it for the first time this weekend. Pad does pack down real small and light and it was long enough for me(5'3") when I used my pack as a pillow but I could feel every rock and root under me...worst thing was that my back and butt was so cold(granted, I live in AK but I've never been cold with my thermarest. Thank God I gave this item a test run before my Chilkoot trip in July. I slept quite poorly on this.
jdeck002
Member since
Its a short ultralight pad, not a full length. Its not supposed to go under your legs/feet, head to butt only. Also, not meant for cold temps either.... ultralight.... not ultra cold.
jason spellman
Member since
dont pay attention to mod3517570's review. this pad is bomber quality when used properly, which he did not.
concur with jdeck! i am assuming your thermarest is full lenth. try it under your torso and ass and put a full length closed cell foam pad underneath. should work out fine. it does for me...! i use the thermarest z-lite.
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bra2934720
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