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Don't forget where you put the Snow Peak LiteMax Stove, because at less than two ounces and about three inches across, you'll never find it again. This titanium and aluminum stove is seriously light and compact, folks. You can close your fist around the entire package, yet when deployed and attached to a fuel canister, the LiteMax is surprisingly stable for being so tiny and its folding arms double as wind shields to prevent blowing out. Turned to full power, 11,200 BTU's get your noodles to a rolling boil in a jiffy.
Bottom Line: Trust Snow Peak to break the barriers of stove weight and size.
Ill preface this review with my cut and paste statement that I work as a backcountry backpacking guide in Yosemite National Park. Nearly all of the products I take the time to review have seen at least a half a season, if not more, of use... and Im committed to not bothering to write a review until I feel like Ive really gotten to know a product. I never thought Id bother to write reviews, but Ive recently decided that since Ive spent so much time over these last many years reading reviews, and finding a tremendous amount of value in articulate and well-informed opinions, that I wanted to give back to the community. So, with that being said, here we go...
Great ultralight stove. Packs down so small I've almost lost it once or twice. I just wrap it in a bandanna and toss it inside my Snow Peak two piece mess kit, along with a can of fuel. Though I've never had a problem with it, it does appear a bit fragile. I wouldn't handle it like a monkey and expect it to work for long. I make sure to hold the base firmly when screwing it on or off a can.
I've had it up to about 12,500 or 13,000 feet and its always worked like a champ, though I sleep with my fuel in my bag. Now... what Snow Peak needs to start making is a fuel can koozie that's a teddy bear. That would certainly be a little nicer to snuggle with than a metal can.
Without a windscreen you will definitely lose a bit of the excellent fuel efficiency of this stove. I would recommend carrying a small amount of aluminum foil in your pack that you can be shaped to act as a screen in any situation. Better to carry some foil than extra fuel.
The pot supports on this little stove provide enough protection for normal wind gusts...Snow Peak does not make a windscreen for this model. That being said, I have blocked the wind with anything I could find when necessary, but really it has not been an issue for me.
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This is one of the lightest, if not THE lightest, canister stoves you can buy! Slightly more difficult to thread on a canister than heavier models but the performance more than makes up for it. This thing also puts out crazy BTU's for the weight. This is the perfect stove if you're solo or just like to boil some water for freeze-dried meals.
Of the two, I like the LiteMax better. Essentially the same performance and efficiency. Grooved pot supports with a minor amount of wind protection built-in, great flame control from simmer to high (I think it's 11,500 BTUs), reasonably frugal with fuel, and roughly a 4 minute boil time per liter. Efficiency diminishes below 25F or so, but that's more a function of the fuel than the stove. Pot support is good up to about a 1.5L, although I've been know to use it effectively with up to a 2.5L. Typical rig is the LiteMax on top of a 4 or 8oz MSR canister with a Primus canister footrest (for $10, get the footrest). Even with lots of stoves, this remains one of my favorites. Hope that helps. Cheers!
Coming from the PNW I have been a MSR loyalist for 20+ years. Not anymore! I bought this little beauty for an unsupported fastpack across the island of Hawai'i (The Big Island Traverse). It is tiny and light as can be. It was basically stable and with careful pot/mug placement I had no spillage issues. Burns hot and I saw no noticeable changes in performance just under 14,000. It is well built, sturdy and should last for years to come. A perfect UL stove.
Aside from the Snow Peak logo & made in Japan & Kovea Supalite Titanium made in Korea. Does anyone know any facts about the Kovea? Size/ BTUs/ longevity/ etc. They look like the exact same stove to me.
Kovea produces the GST-120 LiteMax for Snow Peak. The Supalite and the re-branded LiteMax are the same stove. Go to Asia, AU, NZ, and it's Kovea that you'll find.
Here are the specs from Snow Peak's LiteMax page- notice it says- "Made in Korea"
Specifications
Material Titanium, Stainless Steel Output 11,200 BTU's boil time 4 min. 25 sec. / 1 liter Dimensions D 4.9" H 3" Size Stowed D 2.6" H 3" Fuel Type Gas Canister Combustion Type Vapor Burning Usage Backpacking Made In KOREA Weight 1.9 oz
It's also my understanding that the MSR PocketRocket, as well as all MSR IsoPro fuel canisters are made in Korea by Kovea as well.
My kit contains this guy, a 450 cup, a Trek 700 and folding utensils. With a can of fuel, it all fits in the mesh sack that came with the Trek 700 and weighs 17 oz. total. In the Texas parks, mostly sub 1k ft, this guy has never failed me yet.
I feel a 3 liter pot for this one/two person stove is too heavy which weighs 6 + pounds. When you factor in the heat, you're asking for trouble! In fact I wouldn't use an on the top canister stove for any pot more than 2 liters @ the very most. It's mainly designed for a 1 to 1.5 liter pot & an 8 inch fry pan. A remote canister or liquid fuel stove would work better for your needs.
If you're looking for an ultra lightweight, super hot stove, this is for you. I mostly camp at or above timberline (11,600') for extended periods of time & this stove will boil 16 0z. of water in 6 minutes @ that elevation. The folding pot supports are stable enough to accommodate an 8 in. diameter pot or pan. (Just remember to factor in water weight which is 2 lbs. per 1 quart/liter). Total weight with the little velvet stuff sack is 2.2 oz. Another high quality Snow Peak product.
Curious to know why straight propane isn't used in canister stoves if it works better in cold weather? Also, is propane available in a short cannister (reletive to the Coleman 16.4 oz size) with the "propane style" threaded connection commonly used for propane utility torches, Coleman lanterns and so on?
The 16.4oz size is currently the smallest 100% propane canister available that uses the threaded connection you're referring to. Anything smaller would be impractical. FYI, look for the Iso blended fuel to use with the LiteMax stove. You'll achieve better cold temperature results.
I just picked up the stove and did a quick, at-home boil to test some of the claims. 2.5 cups (20oz) of water (for a Mountain Home meal) rolling boiled at 2:05. The stove used ~15g of fuel, although I wasted a bit initially figuring out the flow control for a few seconds. There was a light wind, water was cold, temp was in the upper 80s.
The stove construction feels very solid despite the feather weight, and the arms extend with ease. The arms were also long and flat enough to give an impression of good stability.
I compared the LiteMax to the Coleman F1 and MSR PocketRocket, and feel it is clearly superior in construction to the F1 and stability to the PR. Being lighter (1.9oz!) is countered by the slight ($15) increase in price, but I feel it is offset by excellent design and construction.
Ok, enough fanboi hype from me! If nothing else, LiteMax is definitely worth adding to your list to consider.
WOuld be using this in the Olympics (WA) and was wondering how this stove works at higher elevations (5000+ft) and colder tempatures. Have an old wisperlite and works great, just looking for something lighter and that simmers. Not sure if Im a fan of canister stoves.....Can anyone onvence me canisters stove are the way to go???....
I am a recent convert. I have used the same Whisperlite for 20+ years and was looking to update my kit. I am stoked I made the leap. This stove out performs my old stove on all fronts! No performance issues at 14,000 and 30 degrees. Canisters are clean and easy to use. I was concerned about the waste, but most places have the capability to recycle these. Just drain them and puncture.
I would just like to add I've used this stove at & above timberline, 11,600ft., many times for the last two summers & it works just fine. As far as temperature is concerned, like most other canister stoves with the exception of the Soto OD-1R http://www.sotooutdoors.com/od-1r.html, it's performance is diminished below freezing & falls off noticeably at 25. Even using an isobutane fuel blend doesn't help much.
To Geoffrey Buck., thanks for the help,...Ya 5000-6000 ft isnt that hi just not famiialr with canister stoves, have had an msr whisperlite for like 10+ years and has treated me well. A bit hesitant on switching to canister but do want a lighter setup. As far as cold its not that cold around here (WA) but not sure what canister stoves are really capabale of. Temps I would be in are probably like at the lowest 20 degrees F. Thanks for your help and advice.
First let me offer that 5000 ft isn't an especially high elevation, despite the local relief. That's a little lower than the elevation of Denver and a lot of the surrounding flat region. Most canister stoves shouldn't have trouble with that altitude.
How cold do you want to use your stove? Performance will vary a little with the fuel you use, but a good rule of thumb is that the stove should be fine above 32 degrees F. For colder temperatures you will want a lower mix of n-butate and more propane.
So far, I've only used this for a few days of camping, but I've been very impressed. The stove is very stable; the supports extend 2-3mm beyond the edges of the Pinnacle Solist (1.1L) pot that I've been using, and they also fit within the fins of the EtaPower 2.1L, so it works with it, too, for cooking for larger groups.
On the smaller pot, it is dangerous to turn the stove up all the way -- flames go way up the outside of the pot and are very hot -- but water boils very quickly at about 1/2 output. Long valve control makes it easy and safe to go from full blast to controlled simmer. Supports cool very quickly and stove can be put away only a few minutes after use.
As far as fuel use, my experience has been in 60-75 degree weather, and I've used 2.8 oz of fuel across six meals (four requiring 6-8 minutes of simmering) and boiling water for a couple of cups of coffee.
The only gripe I had when I got the stove was that it was stiff and hard to fold/unfold. That went away after the first use -- I guess something about the heat loosened up all the joints, and it now is a breeze to open and to pack. It fits easily with a 220g canister in my GIS Pinnacle Soloist cookset.
Nope. You will need to get matches or a lighter. I have had two stoves with auto ignitors and they both broke in the first year. Jetboil and Gigapower. Convient yes durable no...
I have used this at home as well on the trail. Great stove couldn't be more happy. Good in light wind. Boils water fast! Packs small. Packs nicely even after you have used it. Does not become stiff.
This disarmingly small stove was recommended by a friend who runs an outfitting shop, and she was right, it's about as light as you can get! I keep it and a canister inside my GSI Dualist kit, and it's a perfect fit. Just put it in the bowl on bottom, and put the canister on top of it, viola! The only pitfall for this handy little stove is that it does not have a self-contained ignition source, so make sure to bring your fire making device of choice.
The Snow Peak Litemax stove uses only Lindal valve (screw-on) type, compressed gas, fuel canisters manufactured by Brunton, Coleman, Jetboil, MSR, Optimus, Primus, Snow Peak, etc. These canisters are readily available in the US, Canada, & many parts of Europe.
Its all I have wanted in a stove. Its light and compact. I have used with with and MSR fuel container as well. Starts very easily. Last trip I used my firesteel only. I don't see much of a down side!
Canister stoves will perform at all altitudes. It is the cold and wind that comes with high altitude that will cause some problems. The fuel canister performance will suffer if it becomes too cold. Keep the canister in a warm place like your sleeping bag or a down jacket just prior to use.
I got this stove right when it came out directly from Snow Peak and I am completely in love with it. I also own the MSR Pocket Rocket and this stove blows it out of the water. It smaller, lighter, and puts out more heat than the PR. I have only been able to use it once on a three day backpacking trip in Arkansas and it performed flawlessly. Excellent simmer capability, relatively stable platform, and solid construction makes this a must buy. I don't know how it behaves in windy or cold conditions, but canister stoves in general don't work amazing. I can't speak to the fuel efficiency of this stove, but it still seems like I have a fair amount of fuel left after cooking for 3 other people in Arkansas. I would recommend this to anybody who is looking for an ultra-light stove.
Ill preface this review with my cut and paste statement that I work as a backcountry backpacking guide in Yosemite National Park. Nearly all of the more...
This is one of the lightest, if not THE lightest, canister stoves you can buy! Slightly more difficult to thread on a canister than heavier models but more...